The Official Superman Casting & Discussion Thread

[flickchick85]

That's what I call a balanced face. Two candid shots and he looks good from both angles. I could see him as Clark and Superman based on those pics.

Yeah, I'd never seen the guy before two weeks ago when I saw an interview with him on some E!/"Entertainment Tonight"-type show, and his voice reminded me of Tim Daly's as well, so my first thought was, "holy s***, it's Clark Kent in the flesh!" But then I did more investigating to discover that he seems to have a very slight build (according to the interwebs he's just 5'11") and is apparently on some crappy tween ABC Family show (never seen him act, but that doesn't bode well), so I was thoroughly disappointed. But that hasn't stopped the Superman in my head from adopting his face/voice now.

I agree with you on Cavill as well, he looks good from many angles.

And he has a good build, voice, and can act. Why oh why isn't he Team Nolan/Snyder's top candidate already?

 

[GreenKToo]

I think its a gimme that the guy cast will be a relative unknown, ie, on TV, maybe a film or two as a secondary character under his belt, and thats perfectly fine, but I really hope the rest of the cast is very well knowns.
I wanna see names like Bana, Isaacs, goodman, sarandon, etc.

 

[Alonsovich]

^This. I hate when people generalize Supeman like there's only ONE way to do him and there's only ONE look that could be tinkered with. Someone said here that Joe's voice just doesn't "match" Superman's.

Well, what exactly IS Superman's voice? To my understanding, different people read Superman way differently and one could read his voice is a way different capacity than what another might read Superman's voice. I hate when people say that a certain actor "can't be Superman" because he "doesn't have a Superman voice."

Also, these guys being talking about aren't even MADE up to be Superman, we are simply going off a picture of one being in a damn Vampire role for God's sake.

Yeah... let's give Superman Dave Chappelle's voice... I mean it doesn't matter right?

Commanding, deep and noble. If you want a Bale style screw up with the voice of a comic character then go ahead... take Joe. I'll stay with Hammer's or Reeve's voice as an ideal of what should be Supes' voice. If you want to take ANYTHING that's your problem, not mine. I simply think his way of acting, his nose and his voice are more than just enough to discard him (not to mention the Peter Parker beating Superman potential jokes there could be... ).

 

[Tra-El]

Yeah... let's give Superman Dave Chappelle's voice... I mean it doesn't matter right?

Commanding, deep and noble. If you want a Bale style screw up with the voice of a comic character then go ahead... take Joe. I'll stay with Hammer's or Reeve's voice as an ideal of what should be Supes' voice. If you want to take ANYTHING that's your problem, not mine. I simply think his way of acting, his nose and his voice are more than just enough to discard him (not to mention the Peter Parker beating Superman potential jokes there could be... ).

Alright, the Dave Chappelle dig is kind of exaggerating my point, don't you think? Obviously they aren't going to cast a man with Michael J. Fox's voice but it has to be in a commanding tone if anything and I don't think ANYONE is disputing that. It's the point to where people read their Superman in a different voice, and that voice may not be yours.

I agree with you to an extent, my point is that people here generalize what Superman should be THEIR way or it simply won't work. I beg to differ. I think Snyder has a distinct direction where he wants to go, and whoever that may be will fit his criteria whether any of us like it or not. This is SNYDERS Superman and how he views him. Some people will like it, some people will love it, and some stuck-up people will find every excuse in the book. I'll be optimistic, whoever it is, until I walk out of that theater and in 2006, I wasn't impressed.

 

[Strider14]

Except Manganiello always plays *****ebags, dumb jocks, bullies or sex objects.

It's the niche for all his roles.

And Clint Eastwood used to play only western roles and Robin Williams and Jim Carey played only comedy roles. What a shame it would have been if they weren't cast in other type of roles to show their true ability and diversity on camera. Joe was a classically trained theater actor. Having taught television and film acting, I am of the opinion that Joe has much more potential than what typecasting going on here is giving him credit for. The Joker was a complete surprise role for Heath Ledger to get and I was excited about it, though most didn't see the fit. They are actors for a reason. Some have more potential than any of us could ever see. Some end up being a total disappointment. Joe has more charisma and talent than Routh has, so we are already ahead in that case if he were to get the role. I am not on the Joe "bandwagon" as some refer to it, but he is one I would have no problem with getting the role.

 

[Tra-El]

Except Manganiello always plays *****ebags, dumb jocks, bullies or sex objects.

It's the niche for all his roles.

Your point? This is just being ignorant and close-minded. Why hold things like that against Joe? I mean, Heath Ledger played a homosexual in Brokeback Mountain before landing the role of the Joker, and tons of people wanted Jon Hamm for the role of Superman, who plays a bastardly womenizer on a 1950's character who treats people like scum.

Has nothing to do with that actor AS A PERSON and if he's qualified to play the role of Superman. That's just being cruel and unfair to hold career choices and gigs against anyone.

I mean come on, Stallone did soft-core porn and he's one of the most beloved actors in Hollywood who played one of the most beloved and iconic characters EVER in Rocky Balboa. It's a moot point in what kind of roles Joe M did or to hold things against him career wise, and that goes for anyone else who's in the running for the Superman role.

 

[Frodo]

Agreed. Using an actor resume doesn't always tell you how good or whether they are qualified for a role. Every actor has to do things and projects they may not want to do, but have to do to boost their career. Take a look at the resumes of the actors who've played any of the comics characters who are worshipped by fans, and you'll find all kinds of films and tv shows which are awkward, silly, or awful.

 

[shieldshero]

Joe will not be cast. . .
No argument required, pointless discussion. No way after 'Returns' will this role go to him, just can't see it regardless of his nose. . .

It will be an actor with somekind of proven Movie success, or at least the lead in a half decent tv show, not a supporting character on a teeny bopper show. . .
It just wouldn't make sense for WB's, they are looking for a sure fire hit, the pressure is too great this time around IMO. . .

"Byrne's superman brought to life?" Dean Cain's superman brought back to life. . .

 

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

And Clint Eastwood used to play only western roles and Robin Williams and Jim Carey played only comedy roles. What a shame it would have been if they weren't cast in other type of roles to show their true ability and diversity on camera. Joe was a classically trained theater actor. Having taught television and film acting, I am of the opinion that Joe has much more potential than what typecasting going on here is giving him credit for. The Joker was a complete surprise role for Heath Ledger to get and I was excited about it, though most didn't see the fit. They are actors for a reason. Some have more potential than any of us could ever see. Some end up being a total disappointment. Joe has more charisma and talent than Routh has, so we are already ahead in that case if he were to get the role. I am not on the Joe "bandwagon" as some refer to it, but he is one I would have no problem with getting the role.

Nice to see someone who understands that typecasting isn't always the actor's fault. I'm sick of hearing people badmouth guys like Ryan Reynolds and Michael Cera for always playing 'the same character,' as though they wrote the script and cast themselves. The fact is, actors need to work, and if the only people who call up Michael Cera say "I loved you in Juno. Do that." he's not really in a position to say no.

 

[shieldshero]

And guys, you can't play the Ledger card for actor's like Joe. . .
Heath had made like 15 films (many of them lead roles) before playing the Joker, he'd even been nominated for an Oscar!!!
He was not unknown, or inexperienced, he was not as crazy a choice as some people made out, I for one didn't freak out when I heard he was cast, seemed like he had the talent for a start, and a half decent look from day 1 to me. . .

 

[Strider14]

Joe will not be cast. . .
No argument required, pointless discussion. No way after 'Returns' will this role go to him, just can't see it regardless of his nose. . .

It will be an actor with somekind of proven Movie success, or at least the lead in a half decent tv show, not a supporting character on a teeny bopper show. . .
It just wouldn't make sense for WB's, they are looking for a sure fire hit, the pressure is too great this time around IMO. . .

"Byrne's superman brought to life?" Dean Cain's superman brought back to life. . .

Umm...you have inside information like some do here on certain actors (Cavill...Routh) or is that an opinion? Considering the last official word from Snyder is that they are looking for an unknown and not someone with proven movie success... or a relatively lesser television actor, your assertions are far from factual based. Joe would actually fit for the exact reasons you say he wouldn't fit.

 

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

And guys, you can't play the Ledger card for actor's like Joe. . .

Funny, coming from someone playing the "I have a crystal ball" card.

 

[shieldshero]

It's my opinion, that's why I wrote IMO. . .
I don't back Hammer, wouldn't be totally opposed either until I saw him in the suit, but I personally think that the power's that be would be happier going with someone of that ilk than someone like Joe. . .
That's just how I'm placing my bets, I don't have anything against people supporting Joe, I personally think an unknown is better, Routh proved that by not being the weakest link in the last movie. . .

 

[shieldshero]

Funny, coming from someone playing the "I have a crystal ball" card.

so you would compare Joe's career to date to that of Ledger's pre-Dark knight?!! . . .

 

[Pumpkin_Bomb]

No, but then I'm not the one who brought up Ledger, so that was never my point to begin with.

My point is that you can't say things like "He's not getting cast, don't even bother arguing with me" and expect anyone to take you seriously.

 

[shieldshero]

I don't care if anyone takes me seriously, and how I speak is with tongue firmly in cheek anyhow, I'm talking about fictional casting of a comic book character with a bunch of fellow geeks, not politics. . . and was sure to add (imo) wasn't stating anything as fact. . .

 

[shieldshero]

Umm...you have inside information like some do here on certain actors (Cavill...Routh) or is that an opinion? Considering the last official word from Snyder is that they are looking for an unknown and not someone with proven movie success... or a relatively lesser television actor, your assertions are far from factual based. Joe would actually fit for the exact reasons you say he wouldn't fit.

Did Snyder really say that?! I am outta the loop, (been too caught up in spider-man news) haha, well if it's an unknown we're getting then great, but there is a difference between a complete unknown and just not being a household name (Hammer). . .
The quicker the casting is revealed the better. . . I admit I was hasty then, still. . .

NO TO JOE (imo) . . .

 

[Tra-El]

Umm...you have inside information like some do here on certain actors (Cavill...Routh) or is that an opinion? Considering the last official word from Snyder is that they are looking for an unknown and not someone with proven movie success... or a relatively lesser television actor, your assertions are far from factual based. Joe would actually fit for the exact reasons you say he wouldn't fit.

Not to mention they are going with someone between the ages of 27-32, right? Isn't Joe M. 32 years of age? There's another fitted description.

Fact of the matter is, NOONE has a freakin' clue who's going to be the next Superman. For all we know, it could be someone from complete left field. Joe M. seems to be a hot-topic right now and has been before. Until he's out of the running and when that fact is confirmed, then we'd all move onto the next candidate. Until then, anyone is fair game.

As for the Ledger reference, sheildshero,stop trying to validate and justify your argument into swaying the conversation into your favor. With your logic, it would be "okay" for Joe M. to be a "gangster, a *****ebag, and a thug" ONLY if he had 15 films before the Superman role and has been had a leading role as well. So, it was great that Ledger played a homosexual only because he had film-experience, but it's not okay for Joe to play Superman because he is a lesser unknown and played a "thug" role in his career before.

Makes no logical sense to me. Instead of making up insane excuses, just say you point blank don't like Joe M for Supes

 

[Project862006]

joe is 34

 

[shieldshero]

Not to mention they are going with someone between the ages of 27-32, right? Isn't Joe M. 32 years of age? There's another fitted description.

Fact of the matter is, NOONE has a freakin' clue who's going to be the next Superman. For all we know, it could be someone from complete left field. Joe M. seems to be a hot-topic right now and has been before. Until he's out of the running and when that fact is confirmed, then we'd all move onto the next candidate. Until then, anyone is fair game.

As for the Ledger reference, sheildshero,stop trying to validate and justify your argument into swaying the conversation into your favor. With your logic, it would be "okay" for Joe M. to be a "gangster, a *****ebag, and a thug" ONLY if he had 15 films before the Superman role and has been had a leading role as well. So, it was great that Ledger played a homosexual only because he had film-experience, but it's not okay for Joe to play Superman because he is a lesser unknown and played a "thug" role in his career before.

Makes no logical sense to me. Instead of making up insane excuses, just say you point blank don't like Joe M for Supes

Hell no, I don't like Joe haha . . . but my point with Ledger wasn't what roles he had played, gay or straight, it was how well he had played them and the respect he'd earned in those roles. . . and that I didn't see him as a shock casting choice for Joker as he'd proven he could act with variety and genuine talent. . . same with Bale, he was pretty damn well respected as a character actor before batman. . . I would take a great actor with a good look over a mediocre actor with a perfect look this time around. . .

I speak in absolute's by nature, as I say tongue in cheek, devil's advocate however you wanna see it. . .

 

[Tra-El]

Hell no, I don't like Joe haha . . . but my point with Ledger wasn't what roles he had played, gay or straight, it was how well he had played them and the respect he'd earned in those roles. . . and that I didn't see him as a shock casting choice for Joker as he'd proven he could act with variety and genuine talent. . . same with Bale, he was pretty damn well respected as a character actor before batman. . . I would take a great actor with a good look over a mediocre actor with a perfect look this time around. . .

I speak in absolute's by nature, as I say tongue in cheek, devil's advocate however you wanna see it. . .

I agree with that, but everyone knows the Superman role is picked over by a lesser known actor, and it was said to be going down that path again so it looks like we won't get a Bale, or a Ledger type actor to play Supes, regardless. I just wish they'd give us SOMETHING, just a freakin small list of narrowed down candidates. Hell, maybe they aren't that far along the process than we all think?

 

[superhey]

joe is 34

HIS BRANDON ROUTH BACK?

READ THIS : http://www.calgaryherald.com/entert...hoot+Alberta+bound+sources/4173857/story.html


The article says : «Actors rumoured to be in the running for the lead include Brandon Routh, Tom Welling and Sam Worthington.»

 

[Alonsovich]

I agree with that, but everyone knows the Superman role is picked over by a lesser known actor, and it was said to be going down that path again so it looks like we won't get a Bale, or a Ledger type actor to play Supes, regardless. I just wish they'd give us SOMETHING, just a freakin small list of narrowed down candidates. Hell, maybe they aren't that far along the process than we all think?

Considering Snyder should be still finishing Sucker Punch... I'd say they're maximum at the pre-viz stage. Most likely still script polishing and designing process though...

 

[klark cent]

HIS BRANDON ROUTH BACK?

READ THIS : http://www.calgaryherald.com/entert...hoot+Alberta+bound+sources/4173857/story.html


The article says : «Actors rumoured to be in the running for the lead include Brandon Routh, Tom Welling and Sam Worthington.»

Nice!

 

[darkzombiemutt]

HIS BRANDON ROUTH BACK?

READ THIS : http://www.calgaryherald.com/entert...hoot+Alberta+bound+sources/4173857/story.html


The article says : «Actors rumoured to be in the running for the lead include Brandon Routh, Tom Welling and Sam Worthington.»

I wouldn't put too much stock in their casting rumors.