The Official Superman Score & Soundtrack Thread - Part 1

[Boosted]

newton howard's score on GL had a lot of rock/electronic stuff that i didn't really like. as long as it isn't silvestri then we're good. what a crappy captain america score he put in. it was more lazy than the movie

 

[BlueLantern]

newton howard's score on GL had a lot of rock/electronic stuff that i didn't really like. as long as it isn't silvestri then we're good. what a crappy captain america score he put in. it was more lazy than the movie

Talk about making a good point and then taking away your own credibility by slating a film and score that were both quite appreciated in the genre.

 

[By your Command]

My top choices for the score are Michael Giachinno, Howard Shore and John Willliams to return and do a more modern update to his original.

If Williams says yes I will automatically love this movie, don't care if it sucks or not, I will hear it and love it. I don't think Howard Shore could do it (and by it, I mean paying homage to Williams, but I've been wrong about this before, this year I never in a million years thought Desplat would include that many Williams cues in the last Harry Potter, and he even included Nicholes Hooper's score, I don't know/care if it was producer/director mandated, it takes brass balls to just put something that you didn't write into a movie), Giacchino is always a great choice, but I would really like Ottman to return, he did a fantastic job, the Luthor theme was great, and I would love to listen to his music in Superman once again.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

The William's score is just as much a part of Superman as the S on his chest...I don't understand why people want something new

 

[By your Command]

The William's score is just as much a part of Superman as the S on his chest

That's just the truth, if they're not including the Williams's themes, they might as well just not make a Superman movie.

 

[Eddie Dean]

Craziness.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

That's just the truth, if they're not including the Williams's themes, they might as well just not make a Superman movie.

bingo...but if they ditch it I've got it on my iPhone so if I don't hear the first bar all I gotta do is hit play and enjoy!

 

[Superman_200]

I think if they don't have something new, it will would make the films too related to each other. They need to separate this movie from all the other Superman movies. There was too much camp in the other 5 Superman movies with that theme to bring it into this movie as well.

I would be fine with John Williams returning though, because I know he would understand that his original theme was a more playful tune that fit the more playful tone of the movies. This movie, if it is indeed going to have a more serious tone, needs a more serious tune. A serious tune for a serious tone.

 

[By your Command]

They will always be related, they're Superman movies, removing the camp doesn't mean removing what works, and I can't think of anyone who would describe the Planet Krypton theme or the Superman March as campy.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

They will always be related, they're Superman movies, removing the camp doesn't mean removing what works, and I can't think of anyone who would describe the Planet Krypton theme or the Superman March as campy.

two of my favorite movie themes

 

[Boosted]

some of y'all are nuts

 

[Kal-El.9859]

I just love the Williams' theme...it is Superman

 

[SrsBsns]

The William's score is just as much a part of Superman as the S on his chest...I don't understand why people want something new

You're not serious, are you?

 

[Mr. Thing]

The Krypton theme could actually be a brilliant Superman theme in it's own right, for a slightly different direction.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

You're not serious, are you?

I wasn't laughing...It's a part of Superman

 

[Superman_200]

I am not saying that the original themes from John Williams were not great, but they should have a more serious tone of the movie is going to be serious. The John Williams theme is not "campy" but it is playful. For example, there is a difference between a theme like the Krypton theme and a theme like the one in this trailer for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlYYreuK8vo&feature=related

I think a theme like that would be amazing for Krypton.

A theme similar to these but less "rocker" style would be great in the movie. Not as Superman's theme itself, but songs that have that kind of power and excitement to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG8Chcu_cbg

And one of the themes that is the most underrated in a movie that I can remember is the Conan theme. Now as Superman's theme song, I could definitely see something like this:

(Especially around 3:40)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkMhRvEmG6s&feature=related

 

[Rust]

I'll repost this again, because someone of you dont quite seem to understand the concept.

From Newsarama's 10 Things We Want in SUPERMAN Reboot MAN OF STEEL:

"John Williams' Theme Music Retired

Yeah, even that too. We're going there.

Understand there is a part of us tempted to hold onto this. Williams' iconic theme music (which may, in fact, be aging even better than his original Star Wars theme) is maybe pitch perfect. Perhaps no string of musical notes has ever better captured the essence of a familiar character than this one did.

And we'll even take it one step further -- whomever tries to write a new Superman theme for Man of Steel, be it James Newton Howard and/or Hans Zimmer, won't be as successful.

It will not be as good, or as memorable.

But perhaps of all sensory sensations, music has the power to evoke memories and place the listener in a specific time and place. And while William's theme may be the best contribution to the Superman mythos ever made outside of a comic book page, this is the very same reason why The Man of Steel must forge ahead without it."

 

[Kal-El.9859]

regardless of whether or not they use the Williams' theme people will still think about the Donner films. It's inevitable, and I don't think some people, if not most people, understand that. When I'm watching this movie in 2 years I'll automatically compare it to the Reeve films. Not because of a certain musical composition, but because it's a damn Superman film!

 

[Rust]

I didnt parallel compare Nolan's Batman to Burton's, because it was a completely different story and approach.
Compare it over time, sure, but why it should be difficult to seperate them is beyond me.

 

[By your Command]

I'll repost this again, because someone of you dont quite seem to understand the concept.

From Newsarama's 10 Things We Want in SUPERMAN Reboot MAN OF STEEL:

"John Williams' Theme Music Retired

Yeah, even that too. We're going there.

Understand there is a part of us tempted to hold onto this. Williams' iconic theme music (which may, in fact, be aging even better than his original Star Wars theme) is maybe pitch perfect. Perhaps no string of musical notes has ever better captured the essence of a familiar character than this one did.

And we'll even take it one step further -- whomever tries to write a new Superman theme for Man of Steel, be it James Newton Howard and/or Hans Zimmer, won't be as successful.

It will not be as good, or as memorable.

But perhaps of all sensory sensations, music has the power to evoke memories and place the listener in a specific time and place. And while William's theme may be the best contribution to the Superman mythos ever made outside of a comic book page, this is the very same reason why The Man of Steel must forge ahead without it."

Well I don't agree with Newsarama on this one, music does have the power to evoke memories, but in this case they are saying that the music will automatically send the viewer to the 70's, I think many of the Williams themes can be adapted (and they should), the main theme means "Superman in the movies", and I think both Newton Howard and Zimmer (who I'm pretty sure won't be scoring) would agree that not including any of the Williams' themes would be a terrible idea. And I'm as sure of what I'm saying just as much as they mean that they shouldn't be there.

 

[Spidermatrix53]

Can I get a link to this article?

 

[Kal-El.9859]

I didnt parallel compare Nolan's Batman to Burton's, because it was a completely different story and approach.
Compare it over time, sure, but why it should be difficult to seperate them is beyond me.

Oh I agree that it should be in the movie...but I was just saying that whether or not they use it people will still compare it to the Reeve films. Maybe not you, maybe not your friends, but I do and my dad did with Superman Returns, my friend did with Returns and Batman Begins when comparing it to Burton's Batman. Nothing connects the two movies together except for the simple fact that it's Batman.

I'd love to hear the opening chords to Williams' Superman march and I'll be let down if it's not there...thankfully I have it on the ready just in case

 

[batman44]

Craziness.

indeed.

 

[El Payaso]

The William's score is just as much a part of Superman as the S on his chest...I don't understand why people want something new

The Donner's franchise is just as much a part of Superman as the S on his chest...I don't understand why people want something new.

Christopher Reeve is just as much a part of Superman as the S on his chest...I don't understand why people want something new.

That's just the truth, if they're not including the Williams's themes, they might as well just not make a Superman movie.

If they're not including Christopher Reeve, they might as well just not make a Superman movie.

bingo...but if they ditch it I've got it on my iPhone so if I don't hear the first bar all I gotta do is hit play and enjoy!

Problem solved. We can have the reboot now.

They will always be related, they're Superman movies, removing the camp doesn't mean removing what works, and I can't think of anyone who would describe the Planet Krypton theme or the Superman March as campy.

Or Christopher Reeve's performance as Superman. SO good bye Henry cavill.

I just love the Williams' theme...it is Superman

I wasn't laughing...It's a part of Superman

Appreciate the rectification.

regardless of whether or not they use the Williams' theme people will still think about the Donner films. It's inevitable, and I don't think some people, if not most people, understand that. When I'm watching this movie in 2 years I'll automatically compare it to the Reeve films. Not because of a certain musical composition, but because it's a damn Superman film!

Problem solved. We can have a new theme. People will remember Williams's anyways.

Well I don't agree with Newsarama on this one, music does have the power to evoke memories, but in this case they are saying that the music will automatically send the viewer to the 70's, I think many of the Williams themes can be adapted (and they should),

They will be send to the wrong franchise.

the main theme means "Superman in the movies",

No. The main theme means "Superman in the Donner movies."

and I think both Newton Howard and Zimmer (who I'm pretty sure won't be scoring) would agree that not including any of the Williams' themes would be a terrible idea.

Respectable opinion. But it's just that.

People told Newton and Zimmer they should do a more Elfman-esque theme for Nolan's bat-movies. I didn't see them thinking they should. So they have opposite opinions for situastions that are very similar.

 

[Kal-El.9859]

Nothing will beat the Williams' theme...period