The Official Superman Thread - Part 1

[TheCorpulent1]

I've always gotten the impression that he likes him in spite of himself. The Joker pisses him off while he's there, but when he thinks back on those times, it's kind of fun having him around. Having Lex drop that facade and actually invite the Joker along makes their relationship a bit too buddyish to me.

 

[Watchman]

"If I can kill the Batman I can save the world!"

I love the way Cornell wrote the Joker. Another great issue.

 

[Drz]

Paul Cornell truly demonstrates his talent as writer by giving us a 2.99 comic thats nothing more than dialogue, just like Bendis at times shows he still has it by just releasing a comic full of dialogue + zero action. Great issue and the way Joker was handled was great.

 

[Watchman]

I don't mind talking head issues but Bendis's dialog can drive me mad sometimes.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Did I miss something? What actor did Spalding remind Joker of?

 

[The Batman]

I've always gotten the impression that he likes him in spite of himself. The Joker pisses him off while he's there, but when he thinks back on those times, it's kind of fun having him around. Having Lex drop that facade and actually invite the Joker along makes their relationship a bit too buddyish to me.

I agree.

Though I did like in Infinite Crisis when Lex and Joker owned Alexander Luthor at the end

 

[Mystirious]

My favourite moment in this issue

Whats the matter Lex? It's just a pony. A magic pony. That sings

Its like a camp version of Blade Runner!

But then he can't rage against the Joker's impropriety.

D'awwww Lex s him really

 

[Watchman]

My favourite moment in this issue

Whats the matter Lex? It's just a pony. A magic pony. That sings

Its like a camp version of Blade Runner!

Ha! Took me a while to figure this out. Then I thought robot lady...horse and the light bulb went off.

D'awwww Lex s him really

They can have they're own sitcom together. They're the odd couple of the DC universe.

 

[Mystirious]

I would read that it would be the bestest comic ever

Cornell should write that

 

[Kurosawa]

Lex killed more people in the New Krypton mess than Joker has in all his years of killing. I think the best version of Lex ever (Maggin's by a mile) would actually have contempt for Joker as that Lex didn't kill and had never killed-it was beneath him.

Of course everyone, hero or villain, kills now except Superman, and he is FUBAR forever.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Lex killed more people in the New Krypton mess than Joker has in all his years of killing. I think the best version of Lex ever (Maggin's by a mile) would actually have contempt for Joker as that Lex didn't kill and had never killed-it was beneath him.

Of course everyone, hero or villain, kills now except Superman, and he is FUBAR forever.

Any particular Maggin recommendations for Lex stories, comics or novels?

 

[Mystirious]

Lex killed more people in the New Krypton mess than Joker has in all his years of killing. I think the best version of Lex ever (Maggin's by a mile) would actually have contempt for Joker as that Lex didn't kill and had never killed-it was beneath him.

Of course everyone, hero or villain, kills now except Superman, and he is FUBAR forever.

Superman killed some phantom zone criminals

Batwoman Black Canary Aquaman Dove Red Robin Batgirl and Dick Grayson have never killed anyone

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm pretty sure Aquaman's killed as leader of Atlantis' armies. I can't recall specific instances at the moment, but the phrase "Aquaman's never killed anyone" rings false in my brainmind...

Oh, and Dick stood by and let Tarantula kill Blockbuster when he could've easily stopped her. That counts for him, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Watchman]

Superman killed some phantom zone criminals

Which may or may not be in continunity thanks to Hyper Mega Mind **** Crisis tie-in, Superman: Destiny at the Edge of Forever: Revenge of the Fallen

 

[Mystirious]

Oh, and Dick stood by and let Tarantula kill Blockbuster when he could've easily stopped her. That counts for him, as far as I'm concerned.

That never happened

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Oh, that happened. That happened so hard.

 

[Mystirious]

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The thing after that happened totally happened, too.

 

[Mystirious]

The thing after that happened totally happened, too.

Nooooooo ;_;

The rooftop taffy did not

 

[yenaled]

Aquaman has definitely killed people.

I remember when he set a pack of sharks on Black Manta and just swam off leaving him to be eaten alive, it wasn't out of character. Aquaman has a lot of violent in him.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He is filled with the Atlantean equivalent of Brooklyn rage.

 

[Kurosawa]

Any particular Maggin recommendations for Lex stories, comics or novels?

Both of Maggin's novels- Last Son of Krypton and Miracle Monday, feature Lex prominently and are must-reads for any Superman fan. They're pretty cheap online. His best comics Luthor stories are in Superman #292, "The Luthor Nobody Knows!" and "The Einstein Connection/The Ghost of Superman Future" from Superman #416. He also wrote a Superman annual (#9) where Supes and Bats take on Luthor that was really cool and was drawn by Toth. Also "Luthor--You're Driving Me Sane!" from The Joker #7, where Lex and Joker switch personalities, which was a trip.

In Miracle Monday, Lex did the most amazing thing he has ever done, IMO-he scientifically proved the existence of souls, heaven and hell, and God-all just to break out of prison. And of course he kept the discovery to himself.

 

[Ultimate_Superman]

He is filled with the Atlantean equivalent of Brooklyn rage.

Yea he is like the time he punched MM thinking he was Superman or like in For Tomorrow where he pretty much was about to send an army after Superman to send a message. Hell even that new Aquaman had that rage in him when he went up against both Superman and Batman for a rookie that's pretty ballsy.

 

[The Eagle Host]

For Tomorrow was pretty great.

 

[BrianWilly]

I've mixed feelings about "For Tomorrow"'s ultimate quality but I think it'll always be memorable for this scene.