The Official Superman Thread - Part 2

[TheCorpulent1]

Not add to it, just make more of the blue red and gold instead of one little part to attract pervs.

But they want to attract the pervs. Again: 18-year-old girl, medium directed at dudes.

 

[X Knight]

They shouldve made her entire lower half red/gold instead of one spot over her private parts.

actually, I'd prefer if Kara had pants.......lol

someone did a manip where the lower half was all blue, and that looked MUCH better than the official one.......

 

[Hush]

Superman Beyond #0 was pretty awesome, grabbed it on a whim and ended up enjoying a great deal.

 

[X Knight]

so what's the deal with Superboy in the relaunch?

is he like some kind of cyborg now?

 

[Tron Bonne]

That seems to be what it looks like from what we've seen.

 

[Mystirious]

And apparently he's been brainwashed into being a villain and the Teen Titans are goung to have to rescue him from N.O.W.H.E.R.E.

 

[CConn]

Superman Beyond #0 was pretty awesome, grabbed it on a whim and ended up enjoying a great deal.

It was!

They need to give it a mini at very least.

 

[Mystirious]

I think its getting an ongoing later this year

 

[CConn]

That's totally dependent on the one shot's sales. DeFalco said so himself.

 

[X Knight]

That seems to be what it looks like from what we've seen.

And apparently he's been brainwashed into being a villain and the Teen Titans are goung to have to rescue him from N.O.W.H.E.R.E.

not sure how I feel about robo or villain Superboy......lol

but I guess it will be an interesting ride.........

 

[Mystirious]

not sure how I feel about robo or villain Superboy......lol

but I guess it will be an interesting ride.........

I'm going to check it out and give it a chance but I'll be honest I am not that optimistic about it

That's totally dependent on the one shot's sales. DeFalco said so himself.

Hope that it sells well then I thought it was a pretty neat one shot

 

[X Knight]

I'm going to check it out and give it a chance but I'll be honest I am not that optimistic about it

I wonder if Kara or Superman will show up in Superboy's book, and vice versa........

 

[Mystirious]

I'm worried about Kara too. She's been Karadorable in her series and Batgirl but it sounds like their going to make the character colder. Emotionally i mean. And probably literally too as it looks like she is standing around the arctic in that outfit on the cover

 

[CConn]

The solicits make it sound like that, but the interviews I've read with Green and Johnson keep me pretty optimistic.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Grounded is behind us, but one thing that some brought up was how it felt like literally everything JMS did was contradicted in some form or fashion when Roberson took over. Some speculated that this was Roberson's way of kind of ironing over some of the rather ridiculous things Supes was doing/saying early on in Grounded, and others thought that's just how it was planned with Roberson going along with the beats of someone else's drums. Well, recent interview with Roberson seems to favor the former theory:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/08/22/chris-roberson-dc-comics-exit-interview/

When I signed on in October of last year, they gave me a one-page... you could charitably call it an outline, written by Straczynski where he saw the remaining issues going. I think it was drafted at a point where he assumed he'd be writing them. So this is what he's giving DC Editorial to draft solicitation copy.

Apparently, at some point after that, before Superman: Earth One has come out, Straczynski decides that the monthly books don't matter anymore because he knows there's a relaunch coming, so he can comfortably quit and let somebody else finish the story for him.

When given this one-page outline, it was with the context that "here's where we were going to go, use of it what you want and do your own stuff," and basically the only things I was beholden to were to have Superman go to each of eight towns and eight cities in each of the issues, Superman is walking from East to West, and in issue 708, Wonder Woman shows up, and in 709, the Flash shows up. Beyond that, everything you see on the page is mine.

Pretty interesting stuff.

Also, he sheds a bit more light on what happened with the Muslim superhero issue that was replaced earlier this year.

I first understood that there would probably be problems when the cover was released with the solicitations, I think maybe in February, because the cover that you saw in the solicitations was not the cover. It was like a third of the cover, and they had cropped out all of these angry hands grasping at him, which you can see in the letters column of Superman #711, where they show the full cover, but without the Superman shield around the symbol, because DC had decided by that point that they didn't want to associate an Arabic letter with the Superman shield.

The script went through, I think, five or six full revisions. It was lettered and re-lettered several times by the time it was approved by editorial. All of it was toned down -- all of the fear and hysteria about a super-powered Muslim was all toned down until by the final version that was about to go to the printer, it was two disgruntled people in two different crowds, kind of muttering under their breath "I don't trust that guy, I think he's a terrorist." I don't even think we used the word "terrorist." I think it was just "I think he's a Muslim, I don't trust that guy."

The end of the issue was Superman saying what would seem in normal circumstances to be a reasonable position, which was "Maybe this wouldn't be so much of an issue if you weren't wearing an Arabic letter on your chest. Maybe if people couldn't see your face, if you wore a mask, if they couldn't see that you were an Arab, you could help them without running into this kind of static." And the kid says to Superman, "Well you're from another planet. You're an alien. You wear a Kryptonian symbol on your chest and last year," at least in the current continuity, "your people tried to destroy the Earth. You don't hide who you are, and you're accepted as an American. Why should I be any different?"
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[X Knight]

I'm worried about Kara too. She's been Karadorable in her series and Batgirl but it sounds like their going to make the character colder. Emotionally i mean. And probably literally too as it looks like she is standing around the arctic in that outfit on the cover

I LOVE that!!

The solicits make it sound like that, but the interviews I've read with Green and Johnson keep me pretty optimistic.

I'm cautiously optimistic...........

but I guess we'll find out in a couple of weeks now.

 

[X Knight]

Grounded is behind us, but one thing that some brought up was how it felt like literally everything JMS did was contradicted in some form or fashion when Roberson took over. Some speculated that this was Roberson's way of kind of ironing over some of the rather ridiculous things Supes was doing/saying early on in Grounded, and others thought that's just how it was planned with Roberson going along with the beats of someone else's drums. Well, recent interview with Roberson seems to favor the former theory:

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/08/22/chris-roberson-dc-comics-exit-interview/

Pretty interesting stuff.

Also, he sheds a bit more light on what happened with the Muslim superhero issue that was replaced earlier this year.

The whole Grounded storyline sounded so...........or...........that I pretty much just stayed away from it.........

plus, everything's getting relaunched, so why bother.........lol

 

[CConn]

How was Roberson's issues of Grounded? Did it get any better?

 

[Tron Bonne]

I read the first two or three issues, and they seemed okay to me. I especially liked how he used the Superman Squad. I didn't read JMS' issues, though, due to lack of interest in the concept, but the only time Superman did anything utterly ridiculous in that issue (siding with big business pollution in this case), it was actively shown to be mind control. I didn't keep with it, though.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I thought that Grounded went from a story with great potential under JMS to flat out terrible under Roberson.

 

[CConn]

Grounded in concept was just stupid, IMO. All it ever was, was a ripoff of O'Neil and Adams' GL/GA run.

Only when they did their run, it was actually pertinent to those times. Grounded isn't needed in this day and age.

 

[Motown Marvel]

i loved that JMS' solution to fixing detroit's problems is to have extraterrestrial aliens sell their technologically advanced services.

 

[Mystirious]

I LOVE that!!

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The solicits make it sound like that, but the interviews I've read with Green and Johnson keep me pretty optimistic.

Neat well I'm glad to hear that

Do you have a link to the interviews I'd be interested to see what they say about the character

 

[Mystirious]

i loved that JMS' solution to fixing detroit's problems is to have extraterrestrial aliens sell their technologically advanced services.

....

Of course that makes perfect sense

I read the first two or three issues, and they seemed okay to me. I especially liked how he used the Superman Squad. I didn't read JMS' issues, though, due to lack of interest in the concept, but the only time Superman did anything utterly ridiculous in that issue (siding with big business pollution in this case), it was actively shown to be mind control. I didn't keep with it, though.

I thought they were okay but I wasn't really a fan of the Grounded plot either. At least Superman's future looks bright now that Morrison will ne writing him

 

[CConn]

t:



Neat well I'm glad to hear that

Do you have a link to the interviews I'd be interested to see what they say about the character

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/supergirl-dcnu-green-johnson-110718.html

That's it.