The Official Superman Thread - Part 2

[Assassin]

The "present day" Superman makes an appearance in Swamp Thing #1, where he acts much more like the familiar Supes. Give that a try if you're still worried where they're headed with Clark's character.

Swamp Thing was pretty good and amazing art too

 

[Scarecrow_King]

I liked the issue. I hated how much of a dick Superman acted like in the previews, but his character evens out a little bit in the context of the issue. I loved the scene between Clark and his landlady, it gave us a good view of how Clark acts when he's not being Superman.

My one question, though. How exactly did Clark know that something was wrong with the trains? He told Jimmy and Lois not to get on the train. But I don't get why.

 

[Sith Scotti]

Action Comics number 1 was the Best Supoerman comic in a long time . Consider me hooked . I think Morrison writes a better Superman than Batman . Can't wait for number 2

 

[X Knight]

one thing I didn't really get.....

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what was the deal with Lex and the bullet train at the end?? did Lex hide some kind of weapon in it to trap Supes?

 

[Spike_x1]

Yeah, that sequence of events from panel to panel seemed kinda jumbled.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

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The bullet train was the weapon. Lex mentions that if Superman is bulletproof, he'd need to shoot Superman with a bigger bullet or something like that, and then you see Supes pinned to the wall by the bullet train. Basically, everything in the issue up to the bullet train segment was actually a carefully constructed plan by Lex to manipulate Supes into that bullet train situation.

 

[Anubis]

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He shot Superman with a f**king train?

Brilliant.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yeah, Lex comes off like a bawse in this issue. I'm looking forward to Morrison using him often and awesomely.

 

[Spike_x1]

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Yeah, I got that whole Lex's bullet = bullet train part, but what I think went over my head was the matter of how Clark knew about the runaway train (was it super hearing? Something the other guy said to him over the phone?), why/how there were screws coming out of the framework of the tracks (were they already unscrewed and just vibrating the rest of the way out? If so, planting a bomb in that same spot seems redundant), what was the gun toting thug was actually doing (was he hijacking the train? It didn't seem like it). Maybe I should read it again, but that sequence of events kinda threw me for a loop.

 

[Dangerman]

Well that was an exhilarating book.

Also, the two men and blonde woman remark was definitely referencing the Legion.

Actually you're wrong read Stormwatch and you'll see who those people were.

 

[Dangerman]

Action Comics #1 This is the new standard for #1 introductions to a solo protagonist, i can't even remember the last time i read an oversized issue that contained so many plots, so many seeds of new plots, great character moments, tributes to the past incarnations of the character and just flatout beatifully written Superman and Lex Luthor. I am so scared of so many #1s coming this month because ActioN Comics creates truly new language to comics where the protagonist doens't stop at all, even as Clark Kent who is truly is Superman (they are one and the same, the ultimate truth) they never stop, they never stop fightning crime and corruption, this is the worker blue-collar hero of the people! Faster than a speeding bullet! Stronger then a locomotive! Able to jump tall buildings in a single bound! It's a bird! No! A Plane! NO! IT's Superman! If i had to rate this i'd give it an 10/10 rating easily, i can forgive some questionable eyes and anatomy on the body from Rag Morales, because this pacing and this story telling is out of this world, eat your hearts Johns, Bendis and Brubaker, the king is still unquestionably Grant Morrison. Learn from the master. I mean holy crap does this issue provide so much context i could just repeat myself over and over. Superman's personal life values we see a map of the space itself, picture of his parents and a book with a candle showing what an intellectual and family loving man he is, his work is busting out corruption and he beats up monster people the greedy filthy humans of our society, pure awesomeness. I love the reinvention of

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Steel as an government soldier, since thats what Luthor alludes with the proect

and i liked the

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Legion

reference thru the landlord, so we know Clark used to be the kansas Superboy aswell. Can any single issue outdo this masterpiece? I doubt it, and thats going to suck, because this issue really spoiled me. Oh and i love how Luthor referred Superman as an "It". Classic.

Not a Legion reference it is a Stormwatch reference. Remember DC always said Stormwatch was here even before Superman we just didn't know about it. You see the people the Landlord was talking about during the time they were trying to get Apollo to join them. They came for Superman first though guess he turned them down as well.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

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Yeah, I got that whole Lex's bullet = bullet train part, but what I think went over my head was the matter of how Clark knew about the runaway train (was it super hearing? Something the other guy said to him over the phone?), why/how there were screws coming out of the framework of the tracks (were they already unscrewed and just vibrating the rest of the way out? If so, planting a bomb in that same spot seems redundant), what was the gun toting thug was actually doing (was he hijacking the train? It didn't seem like it). Maybe I should read it again, but that sequence of events kinda threw me for a loop.

Yep, this confused me, too. Clark just kinda magically knew about the train. The gun guy didn't do anything. The loose bolts and the bomb didn't really factor into anything. What was the point of all those things?

 

[Anubis]

You know Morrison....that s**t usually ends up making some crazy ass sense by the end of things.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

yeah, that's my biggest complaint about Morrison. His story telling is disjointed. Often to the point of detriment, IMO. Even rereading stories I've already read and know what's happening, it can be hard following events panel to panel.

 

[Willi Berg]

About the train:

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It had to do with Glenmorgan, whom Superman captured at the beginning. Superman knew Glenmorgan was going to retaliate. One of Glenmorgan's men was on the train. Lois and Jimmy were pursuing him. Superman found out about the train talking to his editor on the phone. The loose bolts and bomb stopped Clark from gaining control of the train. Ultimately it was Lex who was behind everything, making sure Superman was there at that time. Glenmorgan was willing to help Lex and Sam Lane to get back at Superman.

 

[Spike_x1]

[blackout]Why was the guy with the guns on the train? Lois and Jimmy stopped him before he could open the door to the driver's cabin, so he didn't even get a chance to hijack it (assuming that was his motive).

Why was our attention drawn to the loosened bolts in particular when the bomb did all the work in derailing the train? I mean, I'm sure the loosened bolts didn't exactly help, but they seem really redundant and unnecessary when next to the bomb, and make me wonder if I overlooked their actual importance in the scenario (falling to hit people in the head on the sidewalk below?). Sure, there's nothing necessarily wrong with loosening the bolts in the context of the story, but you have to wonder why they bothered when those bolts were right next to a bomb that would've destroyed that seam in the railway anyway.[/blackout]

 

[Assassin]

haha did you guys hear about that shop that's banning all Morrison books because Superman says "GD" when he got hit with the train?

BTW this shop sells Preacher.

 

[RoughNTumble]

haha did you guys hear about that shop that's banning all Morrison books because Superman says "GD" when he got hit with the train?

BTW this shop sells Preacher.

sounds like some awful publicity stunt

 

[TheCorpulent1]

But Superman doesn't say that. He says "ow."

 

[RoughNTumble]

But Superman doesn't say that. He says "ow."

this is the tank part

 

[Assassin]

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=276923449002411&id=112017175493040

he says it somewhere, who cares, this guy is dumbtarded

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, what a weird overreaction. What liberal agenda would Superman saying "goddamn" even apply to, if he were actually saying that. Which he's clearly not. Morrison always has people make weird grunts. Batman said "hrrm" more than pretty much anything else under Morrison's pen in JLA.

 

[RoughNTumble]

you'd think superman being sort of a social crusader/activist would be more unnerving to his liberal paranoia than 'gd'

all that told me is that superman probably has some religious background

 

[Willi Berg]

[BLACKOUT]Why was the guy with the guns on the train? Lois and Jimmy stopped him before he could open the door to the driver's cabin, so he didn't even get a chance to hijack it (assuming that was his motive).

Why was our attention drawn to the loosened bolts in particular when the bomb did all the work in derailing the train? I mean, I'm sure the loosened bolts didn't exactly help, but they seem really redundant and unnecessary when next to the bomb, and make me wonder if I overlooked their actual importance in the scenario (falling to hit people in the head on the sidewalk below?). Sure, there's nothing necessarily wrong with loosening the bolts in the context of the story, but you have to wonder why they bothered when those bolts were right next to a bomb that would've destroyed that seam in the railway anyway.[/BLACKOUT]

It was because:

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Lex knew that Lois and Jimmy would get on the train to pursue that man, who was connected to Glenmorgan. Lex also knew that Superman would come to the train to rescue Lois and Jimmy. At the end Sam Lane gets angry at Lex for endangering his daughter. But Lex orchestrated everything so that Superman would show up there when he did.

The loose bolts just seemed to emphasise in those panels that it was the railway tracks that were being destroyed. It wasn't really necessary and it did just seem like it was done to make certain the bridge/track fell apart when the bomb went off.

 

[Keyser Soze]