Terrific reviews. Hard to imagine that Thor is less than a month away. I like IM2 but I think it was flawed from having way too many references to the Avengers, and it appears that Marvel has learnt its lessons with Thor.
I would hate to start this debate again but I agree, I really don't understand what the **** all these people are talking about at all. Even the GA people I know didn't think anything of it.
In fact, SHIELD was even more shoehorned in IM1 than the second when you think about it, and that's perfectly fine. No one cared, including me, it's exciting and not detracting anything from the movie.
Can somebody list all the Avengers references for me? I honestly don't think I saw the same film as you or all the reviewers that brought that up about IM2.
-Tony Stark's one line about 'super secret boy band'.
-Fury talking about Avengers at very end of movie.
-Thor's hammer after the credits.
-Hulk footage easter egg, Cap's shield joke, and references to 'Southwest region' (which only the geeks understood having to do with The Avengers).
All of these things added up amounted to what-----2-3 minutes of the movie? Not one of them had anything to do with the plot and in no way could it be seen as an advertisement for Thor/Cap/Avengers until the hammer shot after the credits. Nobody complained about SHIELD in Iron Man 1 or the various shout outs in Incredible Hulk. Sorry for ranting about this, but it just bothers me to no end. People's hate for IM2 because of this and the other minor complaints is so nonsensical.
I agree. I hate the whining about Iron Man 2. While some complaints I admit are legit, the Avengers complaint really isn't.
The reason why Iron Man 2 wasn't as good was all because of the script. They didn't finish the script before production, the script was rushed, and the screenwriter sucked in the first place.
Yeah, Agent Coulsen was everywhere in the first movie. At Tony's Starks press conference, at the party, meeting with Pepper again, flushing out Obadiah (with various other agents), and even appearing at the end of the movie to tell Tony what to say! A SHIELD logo appeared in the credits and of course Fury showed up after them! Nobody complained about that at all. Then of course TIH with the Captain America reference and Tony Stark cameo.
The same amount of references in IM2 though was terrible for some reason. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. IM2----the most unfairly reviewed movie in the history of movies IMO.
I agree with this. For example, it is not the fact Black Widow was in IM2 that bugs me. It is the fact she essentially did nothing in the movie which does. That is not an issue with the Avengers Initiative. That is an issue of bad writing.
War Machine belonged in there even less than her, atleast she was part of SHIELD and there to keep an eye on Tony and didn't really take from anyone, WM was there for fanservice and did nothing but take away from Whiplash, Hammer and action sequences.
But that goes to the script, it was finished but they changed it, originally WM was the one that took out Vanko while Tony was rescuing Pepper or some crap like that. So the final sequence was rushed.
Adding WM was a mistake from the get go.
Adding WM was a mistake from the get go.
Rhodey served character arcs. Widow was just kind of there. Rhodey was more important. My problem is Widow had like zero character development.
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