The Official 'Thor Rate & Review' thread

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Living in France, we have the good fortune to see the film on April 27, but I was lucky this morning to see Thor (press screening) and it was great! Thor has undoubtedly the strongest scenario of all films Marvel Studios. My only criticism concerns the action (slight lack of scale) and the sometimes syrupy music (while the main theme is epic!). :yay:
 
action (slight lack of scale)
Well, I got enough of scale in this movie & it was enormous! I mean, let's count all the big ones:

* Odin & his armies vs Laufey & Frost Giants (epic battle)
* Thor giving Frost Giants a haaaaard time in Jotunheim
* Destroyer wrecking stuff & beating the hell out of Warriors Three & then Thor gets his powers back & does some big-scale fantastic & magic things to the armored clad villain.
* The final battle between Thor & Loki was also incredible & visually impressive!
 
Microchip, I couldn't care less what the RT meter says, I go by what my own eyes see, and I saw IM2 and F42 and F42 was much better.

IM2 was worst than the first, F42 was better than the first!

It's great that Thor is rating high on the RT meter, but I will form my own opinion when I see it.

Still want to know if Thor wears his helmet the way he should in the movie?

While I admit F4ROTSS is a bit of a guilty pleasure, there's no way in hell it was better than IM2. You might have enjoyed it more, but it's not a better film, not by a long shot.

You're a Kirby fan, please tell me where Reed Richards said anything remotely close to "I'm engaged to the hottest chick on the planet". I mean did the writers even bother to pick up an F4 comic before writing the script?

Susan Storm is more concerned about Reed postponing the wedding than the fact that some unknown entity is attacking the earth?

Aren't you also the one who said you like your movies serious? Like Reed stretchy dancing with hot girls to bad CGI? That kind of serious?
 
Anyway back to Thor.....I'm glad the clip is long. I'm really digging the way Marvel cross polinates these films. I didn't even know that the after credit clip in IM2 was directed by Branagh, until I got the IM2 DVD. I always assumed that it was Favreau who shot it.

I'm going to resist the temptation to view the scene on YT, although it's sooooo tempting, but I have to keep it under wraps. Only two more weeks!
 
Microchip, I couldn't care less what the RT meter says, I go by what my own eyes see, and I saw IM2 and F42 and F42 was much better.

IM2 was worst than the first, F42 was better than the first!

It's great that Thor is rating high on the RT meter, but I will form my own opinion when I see it.

Still want to know if Thor wears his helmet the way he should in the movie?

Lmaoooooo

I don't even know how or where to to even begin to respond to this.

Each of your posts are more ridiculous/funny than the last so by all means continue with those gems.
 
The fact that he's making so much of a fuss over the helmet tells me he's pre-determined not to like the film.

I think they've made the helmet part crown, part battle armor, but it's clear that most of the released fight scenes he's not wearing it. It's not a big deal to me. I love the costume, and the whole artistic look of the film.

Face it guys, this film could have looked totally campy, ala that horrible horrible Masters of the Universe movie from back in the 80's, (Granted Skeletor looked pretty cool). Thankfully they went the Lord of the Rings route, and tried to write a whole backhistory and culture for Asguard, and the costume design flowed out of that. It's faithful to the books, but at the same time it doesn't look like Conan the Barbarian meets Star Wars. The look is very natural.
 
the danger here was another "Flash Gordon" - a stylish cheese-fest of gilded costumes and unintentional humor that has camp appeal but no serious respect.

That situation is thankfully avoided. Director Kenneth Branagh and his entire production crew have delivered in terms of scope and consistency with this mythology-rich universe, respecting the material and treating it seriously but not letting it lapse into the dour, self-important pompousness that usually turns major audiences away from heavy sci-fi/fantasy works.

This is a very good statement. Sure, we can eventually get to the point where the audience is even more willing to take this all even more seriously but you don't get there on the first film. It's like if BB or TDK had been made in 1989 instead of Burton's movie. At the time I don't think many would have accepted them. But because the audience went with on the journey of the evolution of the mythos, they eventually were primed to accept it.
 
People would've accepted Begins in '89 because it's a damn good film...no matter the tone.

Honestly, these past 3 years of criticism towards Nolan's Batman films' tone is getting tiring. It only works for Nolan because it only works for that character.

I don't think anyone was looking for a realistic/plausible version of Thor. He's pure fantasy. There should be no comparison between him and Batman.
 
I think going from Adam West Batman to Nolan's version w/o anything in between would have been too jarring for general audiences. BB wouldn't have done as well as Batman'89 but because BB actually WAS a good movie it would've likely become something of a hit on video or a cult classic in time. Why, you may ask? Because I believe the general audience needs time and space to get used to a new idea when they already have loads of preconceived notions about a subject. They need to be primed to accept it.
 
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And when it comes to Thor taking itself even more seriously in the future, I'm not really thinking of Nolan's Batman films. I'm thinking more along the lines of Jackson's LOTR series(which took themselves very, very seriously despite being fantasy films).
 
They still could've gone the more serious route with this first film because of the Rings Trilogy popularity.

I don't think it would've turned audiences away one bit if this opening film was the same, tonally, as the Rings' Trilogy.

It's been done before. Why can't Marvel just go for it totally with Thor?

Again, this is why (and this is not a criticism in the slightest) I've been calling Thor the big budget version of Masters of the Universe for the 21st Century for a reason.

It's essentially the same film with 21st Century sensibilities.

Still, from all the reviews, it seems that this might be the first complete Marvel Studios' film I don't have a problem with.
 
LOTR had the advantage of being a world famous cultural landmark long before Peter Jackson even started making movies. It's in it's own ballpark that way with regards to how the GA saw it.
 
My complete review (original in french, traduction with google). :yay:

Before beginning this lengthy critique, it should be borne in mind an idea by agreeing to make Thor, Kenneth Branagh has engaged in the most difficult adjustment that is Marvel, far from the comfort of a techno-scientific or Iron Man
a Hulk. To coexist in a single film of SHIELD agents and desolate plains of Jotunheim (the world of Ice Giants), to interact blond god worshiped the Vikings with our good old Earth, this is easily acceptable in the pages of a comic -book, but the movies, if we are to avoid falling into the ridiculous, that's another matter ... However, Branagh has successfully met this challenge by offering a rich picture film, full of courage and action. On entering the room, the majority of the public, Thor will a blank page, a vague mythological figure who was not connected so far to the Marvel universe. But coming out with this perfect introduction to the character, the audience will want to do is find the superhero in the movie that we all, The Avengers.

Let's start with history, which in my opinion, one of the greatest strengths of the film. At first, Thor is a superhero: he is a god. He has power. It is a divine essence, is a son of a king, it's just his nature. For Kenneth Branagh, is a huge advantage: it can immediately pick up the viewer into the action without having to explain for an hour how the hero acquires his powers, how he comes to accept his mission, etc. ... Thor movie differs so all his classmates, often the narrative scheme agreed too. It turns out that the choice of the director (an expert in Shakespearean dramas) is quite logical when you look at the finished product: Thor is a proud prince, warrior and on top of his glory, who will know the disgrace and exile before reborn differently. This is the first blockbuster whose theme is a family drama in costumes and capes!

In the same way that Robert Downey Jr. IS Tony Stark, Chris Hemsworth will always Thor. Its interpretation, many times of concern, is perfect, especially since his character undergoes a real psychological transformation (that is the key to the film), which requires him to play a multitude of feelings and attitudes. Presented as brash, boastful, won (but brave), Thor is initially an anti-hero, far from the image of the ideal king. Hemsworth has fun, he has a stature to match its war ambitions, and he sketched the monster for breakfast. It is a pleasure to see a character mocking the conventions, orders, and who does not hesitate to follow his courage rather than his head. But Hemsworth is never better than when he hits bottom, brushing a fallen god very convincing, which only reborn more heroic than ever at the end of the film. At each moment of life to his character, the Australian actor is just in a much more complex than those proposed by Marvel Studios thus far.

To accompany it, two Oscar-winning actors. I do not need to draw you a picture: take out your comics, look at representations of Odin: Anthony Hopkins stick fully to the character. He brings a strength and determination is reflected in his every word. Listening to rant against his son, or recite a monologue, as if it was present in the cinema before us on a stage. Odin is supposed to be the "Father of all things" and I can assure you that at no time, no doubt this claim! Natalie Portman inherits the role as daredevil. Originally a nurse, Jane Foster is here transformed into science, to enhance its status and its place in the plot. Give relief to the traditional "hero's girlfriend" is not easy: thankfully the chemistry between Portman and Hemsworth works well on screen. These are not the best moments of the film, but we are far from the silliness of a Star Wars Episode III! And it is simply impossible to resist her cute smile. After Black Swan, we see the radiant and in love, to the delight of Thor.

I had real fears about the role of Loki. Too often focused on their heroic figures, the Marvel movies have sometimes neglected to Thor (sorry, this is the first and last time) the evil characters. Now Tom Hiddleston has captured all the subtleties and postures of his character. His Machiavellian plan is logical, reasoned, not wildly original, but believable. Angel face, but viper's tongue, Hiddleston makes turns innocent, charming, naughty, but at the same time moving (a little family secret that fans know ...). It appears, disappears, emerges from behind a column at the option of the film: it's like a box of comic!

Coming to the Warriors Three and Sif, the kind of characters that only fans around the corner! Rest assured, they are present and well characterized: Fandral, just in his fighting style, is still blazing, the portly Volstagg did not give up the chair ... Only Hogun is back - but at least make a feature film for five hours ... As for Sif (Jaimie Alexander, lovely) girl power is in action, and is entitled to his little moment of glory. Key person (sorry), the keeper of the bridge Bifröst, Heimdall: difficult to judge the performance of Idris Elba, since it is fully helmet, but he exudes calm and strength, the vocal part of his role is assured with brio ! I was going to forget Kat Dennings plays Darcy. A role that gives freshness and humor to the film, but her character is somewhat useless, I learned more about it in the press that during the meeting.

Paradoxically, Thor Marvel Studios film is the most humane, the more earthy. It shows a family tearing itself apart. We see the inhabitants of a small town American in their daily life (bars, kitchen). Branagh and takes the time to put his camera in planes calm that only a director like him could offer us. After Stark and Banner, we literally descend back down to Earth. Moreover, what we must understand is that the film Thor is respectful of both characters and the universe. And just that, a fan, it's good as gold! Turning now to the more technical aspects of the film, which comprise the few criticisms that I came out of the meeting.

Regarding implementation, it seems pretty good, with some choices that could have been avoided. Examples include the use of slow motion: within Snyder called here, they are useless. Especially during a dramatic scene, where the intensity of the moment due to fly planes and endless syrupy music (I'll). We must speak of the action: if the film was the level of the first half hour throughout, it would have been perfect. Unfortunately, there is a lack of scale in the fighting that followed the introduction. It's either too short or not fully legible, then it would have taken these sublime moments: because seeing Thor with his hammer and his red cape, fight an enemy, I dare say is BEAUTIFUL! Caution, Thor, not bored in his chair, far from it: Thor against the Giants Ice against the Destroyer, Loki cons, there's plenty to do. But it lacks a little something (it was also the case for Iron Man's first name with his final ships - Marvel under its custody for the Avengers, that must be it !)... This lack of scale is fortunately offset by the strength of the story and the actors' performance. And also keep in mind that this is the first blockbuster of Branagh ...

Let us pause on the visual aspect of the film. It is easily the richest of all superhero movies. Hundreds of costumes, and especially the fascinating Asgard. Posed on a rock, shiny like a drawing by Jack Kirby, his futuristic convinced me, while I am in favor of a more medieval. If the action is sometimes set back, sets and plans of the city are not (same for Jotunheim). It would also make further exploration! A word about 3D, so the topic is related: the returns are generally positive, I would not allow myself to judge on a single session. The relief is neither good for the film, nor bad: it does nothing. I hope (I think) it will be quite different in Imax 3D! Precisely because, 3D darkens screen images: there is no need to worry about the side "foil" of Asgard and its scenery! Again, a 2D session will see more clearly.

Talk about the score by Patrick Doyle: There's good and bad. The excellent with action scenes and the heroic theme that fits perfectly with the film's atmosphere and character of the character. That chivalrous epic, especially one retains the melody! This was not the case with Iron Man and Hulk. To bad, it's intimate scenes with the famous moment in the middle of the film, where a sort of syrupy music came to me to spoil the show. Fortunately, the best successor to worse just after the heroic theme returns, Thor returned, and was limited to the verge of tears because it was so beautiful (you see, you see!). For we must recognize one thing the duo Branagh-Doyle: There was a time not to be missed, and they were right! When I think for a moment, that's the kind of scene that will fill the movie The Avengers, I do not know what to say as it will be huge!

Since we're on a site for connoisseurs ^ ^, talk about cameos, winks and other surprises, without revealing anything, I assure you. "Errors" Iron Man 2 appear to have been digested by Kevin Feige and studio fans have their share of surprises, but there is this need more explanation could parasitize the good march of history . SHIELD is there in force (it is a given integrated after three films), Hawkeye is entitled to his little time, artefacts are hidden ... I jumped on my chair, you'll jump on yours too, but 99% of people will not see / understand or only when The Avengers. The post-credits scene in this regard is a perfect example: a treat for fans, but a mystery to ordinary mortals. Let's just say that in terms of intensity, we must admit it was hard to do better than The Avengers / Nick Fury in Iron Man, and the hammer of Thor in Iron Man 2 ... A word on the end: Surprisingly ... But resonate with our times: Marvel offers a saga on an unprecedented scale, and not just a movie "unitary"!

To conclude, I loved the epic filmed by Kenneth Branagh. The foundation for understanding the character are raised, thanks to a solid story and actors in perfect keeping with their role. From a visual richness never seen a movie Marvel scope of the story would still have benefited from increased during the action scenes. But by Odin's beard, I want to return as quickly as possible to review this brave son of Asgard fight to revive his downfall and rebirth, and vibrate again after the prince become a future Asgardian Avenger!

+ Pictures of the press projection's goodies :

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http://lestoilesheroiques.blogspot.com/2011/04/thor-ma-critique-du-film-votre-avis-sur.html
 
The other one being?

A girl called Caitlyn Stacey from Tomorrow When the War Began. You probably haven't seen it.
Thats the line I noticed too. Most everyone who mentions IM2 when talking about Thor is mentioning it in comparison to how disappointing it was, which I agree with, and talks much more favorably about Thor. Makes me feel good since I feel like it means we're coming from the same frame of reference.

A part of me wonder how much further the film could have gone if it weren't bound to the Marvel universe. It's the one thing about Marvel's movies I don't like in that they feel handcuffed to work within a certain area, with maybe the exception of IM1.
 
Even still, that was 2003 when the last Rings film was released. The GA is at least accustomed to the idea of a serious fantasy film.

I hate the notion that just because a film is based on a superhero comic book, it has to have a certain tone that's not too serious or realistic.

To me, that's sort of defeatist. Thor can be anything that the filmmakers decide it to be. In this instance it seems, they've gone for something more "family friendly/safe"...which is okay but it'll never set itself apart from the rest of the pack...even if it's good to great.

If you're going to be bold, be bold big. Thor has that ability. From all the reviews, it seems they've done a good job but it's a safe film.

This is why, and I know a lot of people are tired of it, the Dark Knight is so revered. It's big and bold and it won.

This is why I was so disappointed while still being entertained by Iron Man 2. That film could've been special in a lot of area. As it stands now, it's just a 2 hour preview for the Avengers. It took no damn chances.

Thor and Green Lantern have a chance to break the mold.
 
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I agree with this. IM2 is not bad I just found it to be very underwhelming, anti-climatic and forgettable to be honest. It's not just an internet thing. But it's still better fluff like SM3, X3, FF 1 & 2.

I completely disagree. IM2 was on par with the first in terms of quality. It's themes, story, villains, and action are arguably more bold than the first. I really don't know what people were expecting that wasn't achieved. Or why the minor flaws of the movie are blown out of proportion when flaws in other films are ignored. The difference is that IM was fresh when it came out and there wasn't any other comicbook movie like it. I don't know, people must have thought that IM2 was going to be Casablanca or something. I can say this much, I thought IM2 was better than Spider Man 2. People put that movie on a pedestal, but forget it was as boring in the middle as they claimed Iron Man 2 was. Probally worse considering RDJ is a much more entertaining actor than Tobey Maguire. I'll take the IM2 party scene over Peter Parker getting b---hslapped by Harry or having to deal with MJ being a nagging, needy b---h the ENTIRE movie.
 
jmc,

A part of me wonder how much further the film could have gone if it weren't bound to the Marvel universe. It's the one thing about Marvel's movies I don't like in that they feel handcuffed to work within a certain area, with maybe the exception of IM1.

Bingo! And this is why I hope and pray DC doesn't do the same thing. Can you imagine a Thor trilogy not bound by the rule of law that are the Marvel suites...something in line or surpassing the Rings' Trilogy in scope?

I shuttered what could be if, IF Marvel takes the restrains off Branagh if he decides to return...
 
How does Thor feel handcuffed to the Marvel universe? I'm curious because the only mention or reference to the other films is Agent Coulson or Hawkeye, and they can just be taken as a stand alone characters in the Thor film, going by what other reviews have said.

No one seems to mention that Thor is like IM2 in that regard.
 
When people describe some of the score as 'syrupy' do you mean those wailing strings he does. LOVE that, it's OTT as hell but my god is it gorgeous.
 
This is why I was so disappointed while still being entertained by Iron Man 2. That film could've been special in a lot of area. As it stands now, it's just a 2 hour preview for the Avengers. It took no damn chances.

What in Iron Man 2 had anything to do with the Avengers? You people keep saying this but fail to provide any examples. Even that scene at the end of the movie, with Fury, barely advertised anything substantial about the Avengers. Everything else was Easter Eggs and an after credit scene. I didn't even notice the Hulk footage on the t.v. screens until people on here were talking about it.

Complaining about this would be like somebody complaining that they were advertising the next Batman movie in Batman Begins at the end. And that was a direct mention of the next villain.
 
I still have no idea why people compare Thor to LOTR

one is a comic book and the other isn't
 
How about the inclusion of Black Widow and Nick Fury and the entire mid-section of the film?

Honestly, couldn't you completely cut them out of the film and still end with the same result that we got at the end of the film?
 
Again, there were less than 3 and a half minutes of Avengers material clocked in the movie. Such a silly complaint. If you don't like it, fine, but at least for more legitimate or backed up reasons.

And actually, you probably couldn't cut out Fury and Widow seamlessly, seeing as they come in to kick Stark in the ass and get him out of his rut. Fury couldn't have done this singlehandedly, so Widow's inclusion makes perfect sense, especially with her... demeanor. Could it have been handled better? Perfectly debatable, but cutting them completely out doesn't help the plot at all.
 
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