The Official Tom Welling Thread

[Pickle-El]

That's a sappy-sig ya got there, Pickle-Schmickle.

So says the Mod on BTN that has Noooooooooooooooooooooo fans.

 

[Serene]

He's undeniably a really big guy. I don't think you could use padding with him, it would look ridiculous. As it often does.

 

[Pickle-El]

He's undeniably a really big guy. I don't think you could use padding with him, it would look ridiculous. As it often does.

I guess we'll never find out......

Then again, even the late great Mr. Reeve could have used some padding up until Superman 3.

 

[Serene]

So says the Mod on BTN that has Noooooooooooooooooooooo fans.

Not true!
MJZ is one of my very favorite mods. He's not afraid of being seen with us dreaded "Wellingites." Gotta admire a guy who's not afraid to have his own opinion, even if it goes against the tide.

 

[Pickle-El]

Not true!
MJZ is one of my very favorite mods. He's not afraid of being seen with us dreaded "Wellingites." Gotta admire a guy who's not afraid to have his own opinion, even if it goes against the tide.

Just because you like Welling doesn't mean you're dreaded....just misunderstood.

After all, we're all still holding the same ticket.....

 

[Kane]

Wellingites? wtf... when did that term happen

 

[Kane]

He's undeniably a really big guy. I don't think you could use padding with him, it would look ridiculous. As it often does.

Sure. But he most definately would have needed padding when he began the role if he was ever given a suit.

Theres no way you could have expected Brandon to bulk up to where Tom is now in a few months right after he was casted. Filming began pretty soon after the casting process too. Considering theres a break of a few years till the next film, and Brandon now knows hes playing Superman, he has time to gradually physically develop himself like Reeve did for Superman III. I personally though dont care about the frame of the actor and really dont prefer if Brandon bulk up or not for the next flick. My main preference is the acting skills and presense to pull the Metropolis Clark Kent, Smallville Clark Kent and Superman roles off in the film.

Brandon doesnt have some years to gradually work on his acting skills, its all here or nothing for this film. If he does nail this role right away perfectly in this film, being a relative unknown like Welling was, that would be extremely impressive (also given the complexity of a 3-fold role).

 

[AgentPat]

Ahhhh.... another who's bigger debate. God, I love this place.



BoyscouT, I hear what you're saying about lean muscle mass verses bulk, and how it can sometimes take years to develop. No argument there at all. But these actors have access to some of the best trainers in the world (supposedly), not to mention the funds for various supplementation. (I'm talking the legal kind, not the Barry Bond's kind.) Basically, professional actors playing "Superman" *ahem* are not like us poor schmoes. Having a limited amount of time to change their body for a role is no excuse. Two words: Christian Bale. I think Welling is taking the time simply because he can.

Okay, I'm done.

[Waves to MJZ ]

 

[SCOTT&JEAN]

Sure. But he most definately would have needed padding when he began the role if he was ever given a suit.

Theres no way you could have expected Brandon to bulk up to where Tom is now in a few months right after he was casted. Filming began pretty soon after the casting process too. Considering theres a break of a few years till the next film, and Brandon now knows hes playing Superman, he has time to gradually physically develop himself like Reeve did for Superman III. I personally though dont care about the frame of the actor and really dont prefer if Brandon bulk up or not for the next flick. My main preference is the acting skills and presense to pull the Metropolis Clark Kent, Smallville Clark Kent and Superman roles off in the film.

Brandon doesnt have some years to gradually work on his acting skills, its all here or nothing for this film. If he does nail this role right away perfectly in this film, being a relative unknown like Welling was, that would be extremely impressive (also given the complexity of a 3-fold role).

Very beautifull picture!!!!

Only Lana should have wore higher hills!!!!!

 

[Milkman95]

Yeah, gotta love the size debate. Welling is a little bigger, whoop-dee-doo, that's a newsflash alright.

Bottom line is it doesn't matter, as long as DJ Qualls isn't in the role. Routh is still a pretty big guy and ultimately if he has the presence and acting ability to pull off this role, all the better for Superman fans. If the actor has the perfect look and is 6' 4" and 240lbs but has the presence of David Spade, it wouldn't work anyway.

It seems a lot of people are rooting against SR for some reason, and theyr'e Superman fans! I just don't get it - we've got the best of both worlds right now with SV and SR, remind me, what's the problem again?

 

[KikiDee]

Wellingites? wtf... when did that term happen

it's fallout from the casting wars. We were dubbed that somewhere around November of 2004. Haven't heard it much lately though, but that's okay I don't mind being a Wellingite.

 

[triplet]

it's fallout from the casting wars. We were dubbed that somewhere around November of 2004. Haven't heard it much lately though, but that's okay I don't mind being a Wellingite.

It was earlier than that, BJ was cast by November 2004....

 

[Kane]

it's fallout from the casting wars. We were dubbed that somewhere around November of 2004. Haven't heard it much lately though, but that's okay I don't mind being a Wellingite.

Casting wars? Maybe I should consider myself lucky I wasnt around for that.

The result of the casting was kinda the main reason I joined the hype like a year later, I was intensely curious as to who this guy was.

 

[Kane]

Bottom line is it doesn't matter, as long as DJ Qualls isn't in the role. Routh is still a pretty big guy and ultimately if he has the presence and acting ability to pull off this role, all the better for Superman fans. If the actor has the perfect look and is 6' 4" and 240lbs but has the presence of David Spade, it wouldn't work anyway.

Yea. Its all in the acting. Thats all I care about. Thank goodness it isnt the dude from Sandy C's Worlds Finest movie

It seems a lot of people are rooting against SR for some reason, and theyr'e Superman fans! I just don't get it - we've got the best of both worlds right now with SV and SR, remind me, what's the problem again?

Only on this smallville board, but its understandable. Ultimately, after it comes out, the fanbase on a whole should have an overall general reaction to it, like it did for Begins. Fantastic 4 was a movie that brought in huge revenues but the fanbase hated it, so did I. Personally I dont care about box office numbers or if no one sees the film, all I care about is the film itself... if its quality or garbage...and believe me, if it sucks... I'll be the first to say so. Im just hoping it wont.

 

[KikiDee]

Yeah, gotta love the size debate. Welling is a little bigger, whoop-dee-doo, that's a newsflash alright.

Bottom line is it doesn't matter, as long as DJ Qualls isn't in the role. Routh is still a pretty big guy and ultimately if he has the presence and acting ability to pull off this role, all the better for Superman fans. If the actor has the perfect look and is 6' 4" and 240lbs but has the presence of David Spade, it wouldn't work anyway.

It seems a lot of people are rooting against SR for some reason, and theyr'e Superman fans! I just don't get it - we've got the best of both worlds right now with SV and SR, remind me, what's the problem again?

This is really just human nature. I think a lot of the fans are just very cautious about being overly optimistic. You play it down so that if it's good you can say wow I was wrong it's great or if it's bad you feel vindicated by not getting too excited about it.

 

[Milkman95]

Yea. Its all in the acting. Thats all I care about. Thank goodness it isnt the dude from Sandy C's Worlds Finest movie

Yeah, I'm with you there - it takes a lot more than just looks to pull this role off - especially when it requires THREE different parts........

Only on this smallville board, but its understandable. Ultimately, after it comes out, the fanbase on a whole should have an overall general reaction to it, like it did for Begins. Fantastic 4 was a movie that brought in huge revenues but the fanbase hated it, so did I. Personally I dont care about box office numbers or if no one sees the film, all I care about is the film itself... if its quality or garbage...and believe me, if it sucks... I'll be the first to say so. Im just hoping it wont.

I agree - if SR nails it, then you'd think the fanbase would come together, but after seeing how dedicated (if you want to call it that) these SV/TW fans are, I'm not so sure.

I'm a bigger Batman fan anyway, and Mr. Bale couldn't have been better, so we're spoiled there.....I felt bad for the F4 fans, so hopefully Tim Story will improve the sequel.......

 

[user123456789]

Ahhhh.... another who's bigger debate. God, I love this place.



BoyscouT, I hear what you're saying about lean muscle mass verses bulk, and how it can sometimes take years to develop. No argument there at all. But these actors have access to some of the best trainers in the world (supposedly), not to mention the funds for various supplementation. (I'm talking the legal kind, not the Barry Bond's kind.) Basically, professional actors playing "Superman" *ahem* are not like us poor schmoes. Having a limited amount of time to change their body for a role is no excuse. Two words: Christian Bale. I think Welling is taking the time simply because he can.

Okay, I'm done.

[Waves to MJZ ]

True, they do have access to the best trainers in the world. The best example is look at is Hilary Swank for Million Dollar Baby. First, she's a woman (Lower T levels). Second, she had no muscle on her whatsoever prior. Third, she not only bulked, but CUT as well, giving her the "ripped" look. ALL in time for the movie. Absolutely amazing.

Still, credit is due where it's deserved, and Christian Bale had another amazing transformation for Begins. He unfortunately just didn't have time to go finish a cutting cycle, but still looked amazing. Can't wait to see what he'll look like in the sequel.

 

[Pickle-El]

Ahhhh.... another who's bigger debate. God, I love this place.



BoyscouT, I hear what you're saying about lean muscle mass verses bulk, and how it can sometimes take years to develop. No argument there at all. But these actors have access to some of the best trainers in the world (supposedly), not to mention the funds for various supplementation. (I'm talking the legal kind, not the Barry Bond's kind.) Basically, professional actors playing "Superman" *ahem* are not like us poor schmoes. Having a limited amount of time to change their body for a role is no excuse. Two words: Christian Bale. I think Welling is taking the time simply because he can.

Okay, I'm done.

[Waves to MJZ ]

Christian Bale is simply a freak of nature.....going from about 100lbs to about 220 is simply wrong. The guy could have killed himself, literally.....

 

[Kane]

Ya hes a bit on edge. Who knows if he even did it in a safe legitamite way....

Losing all that weight was definately not safe anyways.

I'm with you also. I'll always be a much bigger Batman fan. The character, the personality.... just appeals to me more. Bruce Wayne's life is very relatable to me on so many levels.

 

[AgentPat]

True, they do have access to the best trainers in the world. The best example is look at is Hilary Swank for Million Dollar Baby. First, she's a woman (Lower T levels). Second, she had no muscle on her whatsoever prior. Third, she not only bulked, but CUT as well, giving her the "ripped" look. ALL in time for the movie. Absolutely amazing.

I never saw that movie - just not into boxing - but I saw the movie poster. (The one over her shoulder.) I wasn't overly impressed, but that's nothing new for me LOL. I'll have to catch it on cable when it airs.

Still, credit is due where it's deserved, and Christian Bale had another amazing transformation for Begins. He unfortunately just didn't have time to go finish a cutting cycle, but still looked amazing. Can't wait to see what he'll look like in the sequel.

Depends on what he was shooting for. He might have just wanted to look big w/o the overly ripped look, I dunno. Batman is a little different than Superman though since you kind of expect his suit to be more like an armor exoskeleton. I like what they did in BB, and if Bale stays the same size for the sequel, I wouldn't mind.

Now Supes... that's a whole nutta tang. My preference for Welling's suit is that they use a light, thin material similar to lycra. Custom fit it (obviously) so wrinkles are kept to a minimum, and airbrush it with shadows and highlights that compliment Welling's musculature. Maintain Clark's already established primary colors seen on his jackets and T-shirts (red and blue), and use the yellow from Kal-El's blanket (Memoria, Commencement.) Make the size of the shield the same as Jor-El's "scar" (Exodus, Exile and Phoenix), and position it accordingly on his chest. Belt buckle should be oval, just like Jonathan and Jonathan's father wore (Red, Relic, etc), and there should be a shield on the back of the cape (Hereafter.)

Every other design element (since there's little to no precedent to fall back on IN the show), should be tailored to Welling's physique and making sure HE looks good. For example, Tom has a long torso. Aesthetically, low-riding trunks would emphasize that feature, so unless they compensate in other ways, it's probably something they wouldn't want to do. Same for the collar cut, the height of which should be determined based on a tasteful distance between where the logo sits on his chest, and his neck, clavicle and pectoral proportions. Basically, cut the suit to TOM's physique and do it in a way that compliments HIM. And most importantly, keep it simple, stupid. LOL

One would think such wardrobe decisions would be obvious to any designer who's familiar with the character, not to mention has access to the actor who will ultimately be wearing the costume, but it's not, apparently.

 

[AgentPat]

^ I just realized that my tangent from physiques into suit design probably came out of left field. Sorry. My train of thought was that, unlike Batman, you SEE Superman's physique through his suit (kind of the whole point). And unlike his younger version, Metropolis Clark Kent doesn't take off his shirt all that much. LOL


...which is a pity.





...for Welling's version, that is.

 

[Serene]

^ I just realized that my tangent from physiques into suit design probably came out of left field. Sorry.

Don't apologize.. I really think you nailed it with this description. I wish you'd send that in to TPTB.

Now Supes... that's a whole nutta tang. My preference for Welling's suit is that they use a light, thin material similar to lycra. Custom fit it (obviously) so wrinkles are kept to a minimum, and airbrush it with shadows and highlights that compliment Welling's musculature. Maintain Clark's already established primary colors seen on his jackets and T-shirts (red and blue), and use the yellow from Kal-El's blanket (Memoria, Commencement.) Make the size of the shield the same as Jor-El's "scar" (Exodus, Exile and Phoenix), and position it accordingly on his chest. Belt buckle should be oval, just like Jonathan and Jonathan's father wore (Red, Relic, etc), and there should be a shield on the back of the cape (Hereafter.)

Every other design element (since there's little to no precedent to fall back on IN the show), should be tailored to Welling's physique and making sure HE looks good. For example, Tom has a long torso. Aesthetically, low-riding trunks would emphasize that feature, so unless they compensate in other ways, it's probably something they wouldn't want to do. Same for the collar cut, the height of which should be determined based on a tasteful distance between where the logo sits on his chest, and his neck, clavicle and pectoral proportions. Basically, cut the suit to TOM's physique and do it in a way that compliments HIM. And most importantly, keep it simple, stupid. LOL

 

[MJZ]

So says the Mod on BTN that has Noooooooooooooooooooooo fans.

Well what do you expect considering it's the unofficial site for SR?

I mod the Batman and Flash forums but it's still a predominantly Superman-heavy site.

I'm not gonna change my views just to conform with the masses. I still consider it our old Project VOICE forum.

 

[MJZ]

Not true!
MJZ is one of my very favorite mods. He's not afraid of being seen with us dreaded "Wellingites." Gotta admire a guy who's not afraid to have his own opinion, even if it goes against the tide.

 

[AgentPat]

...I'm not gonna change my views just to conform with the masses.....

Thank you!!

we've got the best of both worlds right now with SV and SR, remind me, what's the problem again?

As long as we still have SV, I don't see any problems at all. Nope, none at all. I'm good.