The Official Tom Welling Thread

[user123456789]

I've got to find out how he gets his teeth so white.

 

[The Kid]

Is time in the phantom zone moving faster than time on earth? I'd like to know because I think it'd be cool and awesome if he came out of the phantom zone years older with a lot of facial hair. I'm thinking moses type of facial hair.

Then that'll help explain the age progression. And he could be more mature too.

 

[avidreader]

Thanks, Rene. It seemed as if everybody got so hung up on what was IN the picture, nobody gave a second thought to how much time and effort that went into MAKING it, which kinda bummed me out.

I did.

Wow! That's a beautiful picture.

I have no overriding 'ship preference for Clark. I know he ends up with Lois eventually, but until the writers are allowed to venture down that path, I'm TOTALLY open to whomever they want him to take a detour with. If Chloe is that person, so be it.

There have been instances throughout the show where Clark expressed more than just a friendship for Chloe. In Crush, he told Lana that he felt him and Chloe could be more than friends and admitted to being a little jealous when he saw Chloe with Justin. At the end of the ep, Clark offered to spend time with her at the journalism convention in Metropolis. She accepted, and they held hands, smiling at each other. In Obscura, Clark told Martha he had feelings for Chloe and asked Chloe to go to the Spring Formal with him as his date. She accepted, and he apologized for not asking sooner. In Tempest, Chloe had a panic attack that Clark would just leave her alone at the Spring Formal. He kissed her and assured her that he wasn't going to the dance with her by default, but because he wanted to. When Chloe picked him up to go to the Formal, they exchanged corsage and boutonnière as well as affectionate stares at each other. They slow danced at the Formal and embraced, looking into each other's eyes. If it wasn't for the tornado warning announcement, they would have kissed.

I set up a thread to discuss all this, did you miss the memo.

You should repost this there, as there's some valid points for a good discussion.



Awesome Montage Serene.

Weyseed, I was thinking that too. If he came back to earth a little bit hairy and did his thing for saving the day. He could then go back to clean cut Clark Kent from the Farm, people wont recognise him.

 

[SatEL]

Welling really has gotten bigger during the years i think his biggest was season4 am i right ladies?

 

[triplet]

Thanks, Rene. It seemed as if everybody got so hung up on what was IN the picture, nobody gave a second thought to how much time and effort that went into MAKING it, which kinda bummed me out.

Oh, sorry you got bummed. It was a true beaut of an image.



Good job, Pat.

 

[AgentPat]

I set up a thread to discuss all this, did you miss the memo.

Oh, yeah, I saw it. I just wanted to wrap up my thoughts here though because it sort of started with that artsy promo shot.

You should repost this there, as there's some valid points for a good discussion.

Mmmm... I dunno. I think it could turn into a "shipper" debate, and it's really not like that to me at all. I just want to see less angst and mistrust between antagonists. They're all adults now, so I'm looking forward to seeing more mature relationships between characters. That's not to say there shouldn't be any drama though; I think Clark should be MORE bullheaded than he already is LOL. He should be one step short of major feather ruffling into the 6th season. Ironically, that's good, because it's IN character for him to act that way.

Chloe fans are worried because they don't want to see her get burned again, but I don't see that happening. By skewing the characterization more towards the version of Superman that fans are familiar with, we'll start to see how Clark would be too much for even Chloe to handle. She won't be able to put up with him for very long on an intimate level. Lois, on the other hand...

And that's when fans should begin to see how the conundrum of being himself at the expense of emotional intimacy will weigh heavier on Clark than it ever has before. Hopefully, we'll get to see all that play out in the seventh and final season. That's when I'd like to see the facade version of CK show up in Metropolis and rumors of a mysterious super dude (LOL) start to circulate around the city.

Welling really has gotten bigger during the years i think his biggest was season4 am i right ladies?

Tough to say w/o screen caps. Anybody got any pictures?

 

[avidreader]

Oh, yeah, I saw it. I just wanted to wrap up my thoughts here though because it sort of started with that artsy promo shot.

That's okay you're allowed to. I wasnt trying to tell you what to do.

I just wanted to start a discussion that was about Smallville. I'm tired of seeing all the threads that evolve around comic books and Big Budge Movies.

Mmmm... I dunno. I think it could turn into a "shipper" debate,

I dont think that there are enough people in this forum who are that passionate about their ships. I know Serene loves Clana and I do too, although not as much as Serene, but Serene's always great for an intelligent conversation.

and it's really not like that to me at all. I just want to see less angst and mistrust between antagonists. They're all adults now, so I'm looking forward to seeing more mature relationships between characters. That's not to say there shouldn't be any drama though; I think Clark should be MORE bullheaded than he already is LOL. He should be one step short of major feather ruffling into the 6th season. Ironically, that's good, because it's IN character for him to act that way.

What did DeKnight say, there'll still be angst it will just be adult angst.
I'm always up for a bullheaded Clark.

And that's when fans should begin to see how the conundrum of being himself at the expense of emotional intimacy will weigh heavier on Clark than it ever has before. Hopefully, we'll get to see all that play out in the seventh and final season. That's when I'd like to see the facade version of CK show up in Metropolis and rumors of a mysterious super dude (LOL) start to circulate around the city.

See this is the sort of discussion that you can take to the other thread. Intelligent, dealing with repercussions etc. etc.

Tough to say w/o screen caps. Anybody got any pictures?

LOL! That coming from the lady with more screen caps than anyone I know, except James maybe.

 

[AgentPat]

That's okay you're allowed to. I wasnt trying to tell you what to do.

LOL! Don't sweat it.

I just wanted to start a discussion that was about Smallville. I'm tired of seeing all the threads that evolve around comic books and Big Budge Movies.

Aye freakin' MEN sistah!!!

LOL! That coming from the lady with more screen caps than anyone I know, except James maybe.

LOLOL!!! I was gonna say something like, well THERE's a topic we haven't discussed [/sarcasm], but if SatEL hasn't been here, he/she wouldn't get the "joke."

Fourth season "size matters" caps? Hmmm.... Yeah, I think I may have one or two, yes yes.

 

[avidreader]

Aye freakin' MEN sistah!!!

Just noticed my typo for the word "Budge" it was supposed to say Budget, but I think budge could work too.

LOLOL!!! I was gonna say something like, well THERE's a topic we haven't discussed [/sarcasm], but if SatEL hasn't been here, he/she wouldn't get the "joke."

Fourth season "size matters" caps? Hmmm.... Yeah, I think I may have one or two, yes yes.

No time like the present to get someone familiar with posters. Post away.

 

[Whiteflag]

Post away, AgentPat!

 

[SatEL]

Just been over some of the threads and it seems your a fitness expert Agentpat therefore i am guessing you might have an understanding of my next question, Do you think welling is a ecto or mesmo?

 

[AgentPat]

Just been over some of the threads and it seems your a fitness expert Agentpat therefore i am guessing you might have an understanding of my next question, Do you think welling is a ecto or mesmo?

Well, I'm not an "expert," but I'd say that right now, Tom is *definitely* meso.

Before SV, he looked fairly ectomorphic, and you can see that in his early modeling photos...

Of course, he was still quite young and probably just focused on staying in shape. He wasn't trying to be Superman or anything like that LOL.

After being cast in SV however, I'm sure he put a little more effort into building a more defined physique. By the third season, he had nice vascularity in his hands and arms, and was quite cut...

Beginning in the summer of 2004 however, I think he changed his workout slightly. It became very apparent in the fall when episodes like Transference and Spell aired...

Hmm. Bulking up a little, are we Tom? :P

By the fifth season, he's full blown mesomorphic...

Time was, he'd only look big in profile because of the thickness of his chest. Well, not anymore...

As you might imagine, we've speculated quite a bit about intent. Is it purposeful or just an age thing? Is it lack of time due to his busy schedule? Nobody really knows. I have other theories though, because he clearly is still lifting. He just doesn't look like he's doing much aerobic exercise any more.

If *I* were giving out free advice (LOL) to somebody cast as a young Clark Kent-soon-to-be-Superman, I'd expect the same kind of results. David Prowse worked C. Reeve to the point of puking, but he also told him to eat. Eat. EAT! Welling has had five years (going on six) to sculpt a physique of lean, thick muscles with great stability. He's looking real good now, in my ever-so-biased opinion.

 

[Serene]

Oooh.. a body habitus question!

Love the illustrations, Pat.

I'd have to say that Tom was never really an ectomorph, even in his early days though. Although he was thinner, with less body mass, he was still a relatively "big" guy compared to your typical ectomorph.

Of course, he's just a brickhouse of a mesomorph now.

 

[SatEL]

Well, I'm not an "expert," but I'd say that right now, Tom is *definitely* meso.

Before SV, he looked fairly ectomorphic, and you can see that in his early modeling photos...

Of course, he was still quite young and probably just focused on staying in shape. He wasn't trying to be Superman or anything like that LOL.

After being cast in SV however, I'm sure he put a little more effort into building a more defined physique. By the third season, he had nice vascularity in his hands and arms, and was quite cut...

Beginning in the summer of 2004 however, I think he changed his workout slightly. It became very apparent in the fall when episodes like Transference and Spell aired...

Hmm. Bulking up a little, are we Tom? :P

By the fifth season, he's full blown mesomorphic...

Time was, he'd only look big in profile because of the thickness of his chest. Well, not anymore...

As you might imagine, we've speculated quite a bit about intent. Is it purposeful or just an age thing? Is it lack of time due to his busy schedule? Nobody really knows. I have other theories though, because he clearly is still lifting. He just doesn't look like he's doing much aerobic exercise any more.

If *I* were giving out free advice (LOL) to somebody cast as a young Clark Kent-soon-to-be-Superman, I'd expect the same kind of results. David Prowse worked C. Reeve to the point of puking, but he also told him to eat. Eat. EAT! Welling has had five years (going on six) to sculpt a physique of lean, thick muscles with great stability. He's looking real good now, in my ever-so-biased opinion.

Thanks agent pat its been something i have been wondering about for a while, i know this question is out of content but where would you class Brad Pitt i would say ecto but opinions might vary.

 

[Whiteflag]

Thanks for the lesson, AgentPat!

I'd gladly expend every day of every week studying this interesting subject.

More lesson would be appreciated. You know, I need to make sure I pass my exam.

 

[jas01724]

Well, I'm not an "expert," but I'd say that right now, Tom is *definitely* meso.

You don't really become one or the other, it's the genetics you're born with. I think he's a pretty clear combo ecto-mesomorph, which is a mesomorph with a number of ectomorphic traits.

 

[Darthphere]

Tom shook my hand and ive had 5 surgeries on my wrist.

 

[avidreader]

Okay, dummy's got her hand up here for a question.

Excuse me Miss, but what's the difference between an ectomorph and a mesomorph?

 

[green]

Okay, dummy's got her hand up here for a question.

Excuse me Miss, but what's the difference between an ectomorph and a mesomorph?

Endomorph

An Endomorph's biggest concern should be the losing of fat and adopting a lifestyle that keeps it off. Strength training should be done to get a better muscle to fat ratio and therefore improve metabolism. Use moderate weights at a fast training pace (very little rest between sets and exercises). You should lower your calorie intake (but not try to starve yourself) and should eat frequent but small meals. Sugars, sweets and junk food should be eliminated from your diet. Engage daily in some activity like brisk walking, biking, etc., and try to increase the amount of time you spend each week.

Mesomorph

A Mesomorph has a naturally fit body but to maintain it or improve it they should exercise and diet corretly for their type. Strength training can be done more often and for longer sessions then would be good for an Ectomorph, but you must still be carefull not to overdo it. You should train with moderate to heavy weighs and at a moderate pace, not resting too long between sets. You will find you gain muscle quite easy (some women and even men might not want to get too bulky, but this won't happen suddenly. When you are happy with your muscle size simply train to maintain it). Stick to a good healthy diet to keep you lean and muscular, and watch for any slow creeping fat gains. Engage in and enjoy aerobic activities, sports, etc. but do not overdo.

Ectomorph

Ectomorphs should concentrate on gaining weight in the form of good lean muscle tissue (some women that are too thin may also want to put on a little fat to look more feminine). Weight training should be done but not too often or for too long each session. Weight should be fairly heavy and workout pace slower (longer rest periods between sets). Diet should be high in calories (good quality food not junk) and you should eat more then you're used to and often. Aerobic and other activities (sports, dancing, etc.) should be kept to a minimum, at least until you are happy with your weight and looks.

 

[avidreader]

^^^^ Cool! Thanks green.

 

[AgentPat]

You don't really become one or the other, it's the genetics you're born with. I think he's a pretty clear combo ecto-mesomorph, which is a mesomorph with a number of ectomorphic traits.

Yes, I agree. I should note that I was talking about his general appearance, which *can* change drastically. I have no clue what his metabolism is like or how his body responds to various types of training regimens, which is really the whole point of assessing body type to begin with: a person should tailor their training according to his/her genetics.

 

[green]

^^^^ Cool! Thanks green.

No problem...sorry my visual aid wasnt as fantastic as Pats.

 

[jas01724]

I should note that I was talking about his general appearance, which *can* change drastically.

Yeah, it can.

This is just another of my little pet peeves, of which there are many. If you're just talking about a person's general size, you're not really talking ecto/meso/endo, since anyone can pretty much get themselves any kind of body with the right training and enough effort. Ecto/meso/endo are descriptive of the underlying body type, and that'll stick around no matter what you pile on top of it.

Dammit, now I'm thinking of protein shakes again.

 

[AgentPat]

This is just another of my little pet peeves, of which there are many. If you're just talking about a person's general size

But I wasn't talking just size. Morphic categories explain why a person looks like they do based on their genetics, but you can use them to describe appearance for appearance sake. Body fat percentage, muscle definition, and vascularity vary from person to person. If I said a person was more ectomorphic than endomorphic, you wouldn't picture a burly lumberjack type guy, but that same guy *could* potentially look ectomorphic with the proper training.

I had the same pet peeve when all the comments were made after those Aqua pics were released. I joke about the "size matters" thing all the time, but there's more to it than just height and girth.

 

[MJZ]

Generally I don't put too much stock into those soma-types, I think bone structure is the more overriding issue but they do have some merit. TW might be more accurately classified as "ecto-mesomorphic" in an untrained state, i.e. naturally thin but with a propensity to get muscular. A pure ecto would be like a marathon runner-type, whereas the pure endo is the stereotypical fat guy. Most people share traits of all three.

That's not to say there aren't exceptions to the rule. Here's Arnold in his teens, the freak: