The Official Tom Welling Thread

[triplet]

no porn

LOL!

I just couldn't imagine what was so bad... I guess I'll shut up now.

 

[Serene]

Just my .02...

I *like* the minimal moderation we have in here. I'm sure Big Brother peeks in at us every now and then which seems to be just about as much as we need. I really don't think that we need 'tending as much as some other forums. Anything major bad that needs immediate attention can be PM'd to one of TPTB easily enough..or we can always use the ignore feature (usually. )

 

[jas01724]

Pffft, I wasn't expecting Para to have had a porno avatar, I just expected it to have been something twisted and evil; which is just the way I like it, by the bye.

 

[triplet]

Just my .02...

I *like* the minimal moderation we have in here. I'm sure Big Brother peeks in at us every now and then which seems to be just about as much as we need. I really don't think that we need 'tending as much as some other forums. Anything major bad that needs immediate attention can be PM'd to one of TPTB easily enough..or we can always use the ignore feature (usually. )

Yeah, but I think certain people have been way too cranky the last few days... just kinda over it. Made me very cranky myself.

But point taken.

Actually, the ignore I put someone on today has greatly decreased my blood pressure and helped me to get rid of a major headache I was nursing...

Maybe Para should give it a try...

That's Doctor Triplet's advice for the day.

 

[jas01724]

It's weird, I never put people on ignore. Reason being that everyone can post something worthwhile at least once, and if that happens I'd rather not miss it.

 

[triplet]

It's weird, I never put people on ignore. Reason being that everyone can post something worthwhile at least once, and if that happens I'd rather not miss it.

Jc was just getting on my last nerve, so I may take him off in a couple of days after he's calmed down.

He seems to go on jags where he enjoys pissing people off, he'll be over it eventually.

I've seen a few hints here and there of what he's been saying in quoted replies so right now I think I'm happier in my ignorant bliss... .

 

[jas01724]

He's a nuisance, but ultimately harmless.

 

[triplet]

He's a nuisance, but ultimately harmless.

Yeah, I like the guy and we've been really friendly in PM's and emails, but I had to stop reading what he was writing about Welling and Smallville.

Look, it's like my sister and me not getting along when it comes to politics.

She loves the guy who won. A lot.

I hate the guy who won. A lot.

We'd argue about it on the phone from time to time before the election, but then it kinda came to a head. So, we argued worse than we'd ever argued before. She was for this, I was against that. It was ugly. And we never fight.

This is one of my triplet sisters I'm talking about. One of the two closest people to me in the world, besides my husband and kids.

Well, we decided to not even talk about politics ever again. We won't see eye to eye on politics ever, we're both very passionate about our own points of view, and it's not worth our relationship.

Well, Jc and me and this whole Welling vs Routh thingy, I see it as the same sorta sitch. I see things one way, he sees things another way.

It's pointless to even listen to what he has to say because he won't change my mind and it's pointless for me to reply because I won't change his mind.

I tried telling him that but he kept on coming, so he's on ignore.

Maybe this way, we can keep what we can of our friendship, which is a relatively new thing and I feel is still a bit fragile at this point.

 

[triplet]

On second thought, maybe my friendship with JcDc ain't worth saving.

Just been on the other forum and he's bashing us right and left, and I can only tell by the quotes in other people's replies...

I feel used and totally misunderstood by someone I thought was my friend. Someone who I thought I'd shared something with and he's over there bashing us all as ignorant dolts.

Good riddance.

 

[jas01724]

It's never nice when somebody you like "stabs you in the back", so to speak, but then I've never spoken to Jc in PM or email. He's always been the same (oddly likeable despite everything) pain in the butt. A little like muscles...

I have a new avatar.

 

[triplet]

It's never nice when somebody you like "stabs you in the back", so to speak, but then I've never spoken to Jc in PM or email. He's always been the same (oddly likeable despite everything) pain in the butt. A little like muscles...

I have a new avatar.

I'm probably feeling too sensitive, but I feel like every bad thing he's saying about "Wellingites" he's saying about me.

I helped him out when he needed it, and I thought there was a connection there and we were getting to be friends. And yet he's totally insensitive to how him saying that stuff would hurt me.

Yeah, "stabbed in the back" kinda describes it.



I get too emotionally attached for the wrong reasons sometimes.

Worse thing is that now I just feel stupid.



Anyway, I like your avatar.

But I think I'm going to bed after I do a little more writing...

Work is ****ty and now here isn't much better. Have to escape somehow, getting into someone else's head other than mine might help...



I'll be better tomorrow. Maybe my mood ring won't be so black then.

 

[Thunder Emperor]

i have come to a conclusion on singer and singerman. i realize that welling not cast was a good choice, yes i had taken notice before that singer was just continuing the donner line. but to me it seems he is doing it literally and he wanted someone that looks like reeve. i think hwsnbn looks more like reeve than he does superman. welling looks for like superman than he does reeve. which will not work for singer and his singerman picture

 

[JcDc]

I'm probably feeling too sensitive, but I feel like every bad thing he's saying about "Wellingites" he's saying about me.

I helped him out when he needed it, and I thought there was a connection there and we were getting to be friends. And yet he's totally insensitive to how him saying that stuff would hurt me.

Yeah, "stabbed in the back" kinda describes it.



I get too emotionally attached for the wrong reasons sometimes.

Worse thing is that now I just feel stupid.



Anyway, I like your avatar.

But I think I'm going to bed after I do a little more writing...

Work is ****ty and now here isn't much better. Have to escape somehow, getting into someone else's head other than mine might help...



I'll be better tomorrow. Maybe my mood ring won't be so black then.

Someone quote this since I guess Agent Spat and Secret Sidekick Serene got triplet to ignore me:

There is a connection there, and I didn't think of you in terms of my disappointment with the forum behavior. I think it's ridiculous you don't come to me about an issue, instead listening to troll happy chicks like Agent Spat and her sidekick Serene. I feel I have every right to give a different viewpoint and have my opinion about a tv show. I just noticed some things I was told not to do if I wanted to contribute to this forum. I ended up doing those things only to see the mose hypocritical behavior in return. Because I have a distaste for what's been going on lately in here, it doesn't mean I have a problem with you. YOU out of all people should know that. If you look at some of the threads I complained about, in those threads I actually said positive things about you... I did that because 1. I mean them and 2. I didn't want you to feel I was alienating you along with some of the other contradicting members here. If you want to throw away a friendship because of different views regarding a tv show or actor, that's really ridiculous I've said nothing against you. Friends shouldn't let others get in the middle of their friendship, and I feel that's what you are doing. Just because they are so quick to get sarcastic and behave in a certain way, that doesn't mean whatever we're arguing about has to include you taking a side. I do my best to keep you out of the argument so you don't feel a weight on our friendship. I personally feel there is nothing wrong with me having a different viewpoint regarding smallville, and leave the discussion we have on the forum... Away from the forum we should still be able to be friends. Sheesh! Still love ya even if you didn't read this :-/ I just question if you are letting people get in the middle.

 

[Serene]

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I get too emotionally attached for the wrong reasons sometimes.

Worse thing is that now I just feel stupid.

Don't feel stupid because you happen to be a very nice person who's willing to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Me, not so much. I've been around the fandom thing a fairly long time, and I've learned that there's more b.s. out there than not. I don't find whatshisface harmless.. he's schmoozing you one minute and being a malicious jerk the other. And it's been that way from day one.. the story never changes. Eh.. who needs it. Honestly, he's the *only* person I have on ignore.

 

[Lara]

Secondly...here's another article about The Fog.. a pretty good one too

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/site/news/newsstory.asp?news_id=16593

I found that interesting because I can't even find forums where it's really being discussed.

 

[JcDc]

Don't feel stupid because you happen to be a very nice person who's willing to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Me, not so much. I've been around the fandom thing a fairly long time, and I've learned that there's more b.s. out there than not. I don't find whatshisface harmless.. he's schmoozing you one minute and being a malicious jerk the other. And it's been that way from day one.. the story never changes. Eh.. who needs it. Honestly, he's the *only* person I have on ignore.

This conversation has nothing to do with you, stop butting in and getting in the middle. You seriously don't know a damn thing about me. Go ahead and say you don't want too either For you to call me a "malicious jerk" is so far out of line. I'm sure you'll end up reading this, know that you are wrong, and say nothing cause uhh.. I'm on ignore Only reason I don't have you on ignore is because I know you talk sh** about me and I have no problem to stand up for myself when that's the case. I give an opinion on the forum acting in a contradicting manner, I give an opinion in a thread MADE to bash Routh that said he was dropped, and I'm being malicious?? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. This is not a dictatorship, neither you Agent Spat will run me off. I break no rules, give my opinion when I want. I don't make personal attacks either. Unlike SOME that are in this forum. Just knock it off.

 

[AgentPat]

This one does me in. Gorgeous face. Thank you Pat.

You're quite welcome, Rumpuso. I believe that photo was taken during the scenes where Clark was talking to Lionel in prison. They must have darkened the print in post though because it looks like there was plenty of ambient lighting - but it probably looked more "prison-like" for it to be dark.

I see Para was here last night. Dude, WHERE'S MY BORG MANIPS?! You can't come here w/o posting a you-will-be-assimilated manip. LOL

Love ya, Para!

Are you being serious? A mod actually like Tom Welling enough to think he should have been Superman?

Or have I unknowingly passed into a parallel universe?

Parallel universe, babe. But Para's cool. See, if he wanted to be our mod here, I'd have no problem with it. He's a fair guy. But Para, I thought you were wicked busy recently? You getting back into the swing of things now?

encouraging Welling Bashing in a Smallville forum is like encouraging Bale Bashing in a Batman forum. I don't know how convincing I sound

Bale Bashing? Where? Lemme at 'em!

It's weird, I never put people on ignore. Reason being that everyone can post something worthwhile at least once, and if that happens I'd rather not miss it.

Yeah, but after a while, the bad outweighs the good, and I'd rather increase my fun here, not decrease it. Those in my ignore list have earned the right to be there. Besides, it takes two to tango, so I rather be the bigger person and bow out of future arguments gracefully. "Ignore" is my happy pill.

...I had taken notice before that singer was just continuing the donner line. but to me it seems he is doing it literally and he wanted someone that looks like reeve. I think hwsnbn looks more like reeve than he does superman. welling looks for like superman than he does reeve. which will not work for singer and his singerman picture

Hmm. Interesting. I don't think the casting decision rested completely on look - Singer's comments point more to not wanting Welling solely because of his connection with SV (an ironic point since that's pretty much the only reason folks wanted him for the role to being with, but whatever.)

I found that interesting because I can't even find forums where it's really being discussed.

Hey! That was a great read! Thanks Serene.

Lara, there's not that many forums actively discussing the film yet, but that will probably pick up over the next few months. For now, this thread is just as appropriate a place, I suppose. It's one of Welling's films, and he's the star, so...

I'm gonna cut and paste that article here for posterity. It's a keeper:

The Fog Demystified
Exclusive: We speak to the remake’s director, Rupert Wainwright
3/1/05
Despite the fact that the recent remakes of Dawn of the Dead, Assault on Precinct 13, and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre all turned out pretty well, there’s nothing that fans like more than griping about potential remakes of their favorite horror movies. The Amityville Horror rejig is almost upon us, Sam Raimi is planning an Evil Dead revamp, but the film incurring the highest levels of geek rage is the retooling of John Carpenter’s The Fog. But director Rupert Wainwright, who’s currently calling the shots on that flick in Vancouver, is adamant that there’s no need to worry.

“We’re all fans of the original movie, but it’s 25 years old and there are plenty of reasons to remake it,” said Wainwright, talking exclusively to Empire from the movie’s dry ice-encrusted set. In fact, he’s not alone: Carpenter and original producer/co-screenwriter Debra Hill have not only given the blessing to the Sony/Revolution Studios project, but are serving as producers.

“A little went a long way back then,” Wainwright adds, referring to the original’s inexpensive but effective special effects, “but nowadays the technology has got to the point where you can really do a lot with the fog itself.”

Considered a lesser Carpenter effort, but nonetheless an impressive exercise in mood and atmospherics, The Fog is set in a small coastal California town whose founding fathers lured a ship to its doom in order to steal the gold on board. Exactly a century on (apparently ghosts have calendars), the arrival of a thick yellow fog signals the return of the ancient mariners, seeking revenge from beyond their watery graves.

Fanboys have been concerned by the new version’s cast, which includes such TV staples as Smallville’s Tom Welling and Maggie Grace from Lost, while the 1980 original featured the likes of Jamie Lee Curtis, Tom Atkins, Hal Holbrook and Janet Leigh. Yet Wainwright insists The Fog will not be your typical teen slasher, nor is it likely to follow the MTV-style editing of his earlier horror film, Stigmata. “The bar has been raised so high recently, not just in the recent run of studio remakes, but in movies like 28 Days Later,” he says. “We’re being really hard on ourselves, so the end product will provide exactly what the audience wants, not just in terms of shocks and scares and special effects, but in terms of good writing and good performances.”

The latter, he feels, is key to the effectiveness of a horror film. “If you don’t have nuanced, believable characters you can actually care about, why would you give a **** what happens to them?"

Scripting the update is Cooper Layne, who co-wrote The Core and penned several drafts of Wainwright’s unproduced Outer Limits feature. Details of the new Fog’s plot, however, remain shrouded in mystery (Ha! See what we did there? Mystery? It’s like ‘mistery’ but with one letter removed! Mist? Fog? Jeez… tough crowd). “It’s true to the spirit of the original, but it’s pretty different. We’ve got some pretty major surprises,” he adds, “and I don’t think horror fans are going to be disappointed.”

We’ll find out soon enough. As of yesterday, The Fog has a UK release date of January 6, 2006.

It's funny how many similarities there are with Singerman too. Many people out there might think of it as being a remake. In fact, a lot have. I know I've personally spoken to folks who questioned why remake it at all. So, whether it's a remake or not, some people see it that way. Now the producers of TF aren't making any bones (pun intended) about that, but they have pointed out they're changing some of the backstory and relative ages of the characters. Hee! Sound familiar?

Obviously, there's a WORLD of difference between the two properties. Budget and genre being two of the biggest, but some comments like, "We're being really hard on ourselves, so the end product will provide exactly what the audience wants, not just in terms of shocks and scares and special effects, but in terms of good writing and good performances" is the same kind of rah rah we've been hearing of late with Singerman. I guess it's just a matter of convincing the fans now (a tall order depending upon how iconic the original films were.) I'm thinking Wainwright's buildings will be a little shorter to leap over than Singer's, but Wainwright has less to lose in the end, so it's all relative, I suppose.

 

[triplet]

It's funny how many similarities there are with Singerman too. Many people out there might think of it as being a remake. In fact, a lot have. I know I've personally spoken to folks who questioned why remake it at all. So, whether it's a remake or not, some people see it that way. Now the producers of TF aren't making any bones (pun intended) about that, but they have pointed out they're changing some of the backstory and relative ages of the characters. Hee! Sound familiar?

Don't think I didn't notice that, it made me smile.

Obviously, there's a WORLD of difference between the two properties. Budget and genre being two of the biggest, but some comments like, "We're being really hard on ourselves, so the end product will provide exactly what the audience wants, not just in terms of shocks and scares and special effects, but in terms of good writing and good performances" is the same kind of rah rah we've been hearing of late with Singerman. I guess it's just a matter of convincing the fans now (a tall order depending upon how iconic the original films were.) I'm thinking Wainwright's buildings will be a little shorter to leap over than Singer's, but Wainwright has less to lose in the end, so it's all relative, I suppose.

I found it very endearing that Wainwright talked at several points about how important strong performances are for making a horror film more effective. If you don't care about the characters then why would anyone give a **** about what happens to them?

I think that speaks volumes about why he hired Tom. He hired him for his ability as an actor and his ability to make his characters believable, he has confidence in what Tom can deliver to the show as an actor, and I betcha Tom's good looks are just icing.



If Tom can deliver, which I have no doubt he will (although certain trolls here will not agree), his feature career will be set well on its way...

This article made me even more excited about this film. Yes, the original is iconic and horror fanboys all over are having a hissy about it, but what they could accomplish back then as opposed to what they can do now will make for a much better film.

 

[AgentPat]

...If you don't care about the characters then why would anyone give a **** about what happens to them?

This REALLY is what it's all about. Welling has this wonderful innate ability to endear his characters to the audience. Even on JA, who'd you feel sorry for? Amy (the star) or Rob?

This article made me even more excited about this film.

Me too.

Yes, the original is iconic and horror fanboys all over are having a hissy about it,

Well, not everywhere. There's not THAT much opposition to it, from what I've seen. Most folks seem to be looking forward to it. Again, the "similarities" abound. *snicker*

but what they could accomplish back then as opposed to what they can do now will make for a much better film.

[Points to last statement.] LOL

 

[JcDc]

Triplet, this is such a ridiculous thing to throw away a friendship over. Our talks away from smallville/superman have been very meaningful to me. Your opinion on everything has always been important. But I just can't believe over what happens in this forum that about Routh, Welling, Smallville, Singer, etc... Especially since I was very careful to make sure you didn't feel I was saying anything personal towards you during these discussion. You are willing to say all the things we've discussed away from the forum have been meaningless and just ignore me based on what Agent Spat thinks. If that is the case I don't need a friend like that. I'm friends with people who can disagree but at the same time always have my back like I will have theirs, as I've had yours.

 

[triplet]

This REALLY is what it's all about. Welling has this wonderful innate ability to endear his characters to the audience. Even on JA, who'd you feel sorry for? Amy (the star) or Rob?

Yep, I loved Tom on JA... He was so NOT Clark in that. Very sexy and very adult.

Me too.

Yep.

Well, not everywhere. There's not THAT much opposition to it, from what I've seen. Most folks seem to be looking forward to it. Again, the "similarities" abound. *snicker*

[Points to last statement.] LOL

Yeah, but I think there is a certain segment that isn't looking forward to it, since it is such an iconic film for certain horror fans, but I love what Wainwright has said about it.

The teen slasher bits in the original were horribly done. The budget wasn't very big and the FX were laughable because of that...

Those parts of the film simply don't stand the test of time, but the creepy fog bits are wonderfully creepy still and if he emphasizes that part (which it sounds like he will), then I think the film will definitely improve upon the original.

I don't like teen slasher films, maybe you have to be a teen to lilke those. I can remember seeing Halloween and Nightmare on Elm Street and those kinds of films when I was a teen and I loving them. They hold very little appeal for me now, so thumbsup!

IN WAINWRIGHT WE TRUST!

LOL!

 

[JcDc]

And with that ignoring of the matter, the silence has spoken louder than words...

Move along, go about your business folks...

 

[triplet]

OK, so I peaked...

Triplet, this is such a ridiculous thing to throw away a friendship over. Our talks away from smallville/superman have been very meaningful to me. Your opinion on everything has always been important. But I just can't believe over what happens in this forum that about Routh, Welling, Smallville, Singer, etc... Especially since I was very careful to make sure you didn't feel I was saying anything personal towards you during these discussion. You are willing to say all the things we've discussed away from the forum have been meaningless and just ignore me based on what Agent Spat thinks. If that is the case I don't need a friend like that. I'm friends with people who can disagree but at the same time always have my back like I will have theirs, as I've had yours.

Part of me is sorry I peaked and part of me is not...

Look, when you go all over the movie forum and bash Welling fans you might as well be bashing me.

And that's what it feels like so I'm not sure how careful you were being. You've said some pretty awful things the last couple of days about Welling and Smallville (and Welling's fans, which includes me) and I put you on ignore because of that.

Before that I had tried to get you to back off, nicely I thought too, and you just weren't listening.

Hell, you still aren't.

It isn't about Welling anymore! Your bashing Welling fans all over the forums is encouraging the trolls and I don't understand why you can't see what you've wrought.

It's hard enough to be Welling fan on this forum without you and Para making it worse.

At one point I had even stopped coming here for about two weeks because the bashing was getting so bad. And that was after Routh was tapped for the job.

You have your damn superman, take the talk about him to the movie forum where it belongs.

And I bet the movie forum people would greatly appreciate any Welling bashing you have to do is not done there. He has nothing to do with the film and Routh has nothing to do with Smallville.

And if you have something to say to me, you can say it to me directly. Ignore or not. You've got my email addy and even my phucking phone number.

 

[muscles]

Triplet is laying the smack down

 

[triplet]

Triplet is laying the smack down

Prolly shoulda emailed him about this stuff before I ranted, I'm not exactly a perfect friend I guess, but I've been having a bad week and was in totally a passive aggressive mode.