The Official Vertigo Thread

Looks like it's confirmed.

Some things that worried me is that Madame Xanadu was cancelled when she "returned" to the DCU and Swamp Thing's tentative series was ****canned when he was pulled back in. I'm not sure how well Hellblazer's sales are but I hope this doesn't spell doom.

Like you said this could work in a Regular Punisher/Punisher Max way but the same could have been said about Swampy and Xanadu. Also, the chances of him being written being a one note ass are pretty high.

Well, I think the difference between those was that Swamp Thing and Madame Xanadu were still pretty firmly rooted in the DCU (on a fringe like level, granted), even when they were doing their Vertigo series. Hellblazer has pretty much always been pretty disconnected from the DCU from what I knew. So, putting those back into the DCU to use them there (or not use them there, in apparently several cases) doesn't feel as forced. It'd be easier to say the Vertigo series of Constantine is just in its own separate universe and the one that's going to be in BD will end up being the one that debuted in the DCU rooted Swamp Thing that Moore created. Something like that.
 
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After thinking about it DC could announce Constantine written by someone like Cornell and I would be doing back flips but seeing Constantine (If it is him) on a cover with Brightest Day Aftermath written across it just seems unnatural.

I don't want to come off as some fanboy shouting how this is impure but it just doesn't seem right especially with the art. It's like the rumors of Miracle Man turning out to be Norman Osborn secret weapon. Constantine has always been one of the most well written characters in all of comics not to mention a personal favorite of mine so I would just hate to see him get dragged into a story that I have no interest and having the sensibilities of a Michael Bay film.
 
I just actually recently finished the first graphic novel of Hellblazer collecting the first nine issues and it was freakin' awesome.
 
Delano had a great run. I didn't really like The Fear Machine, though. I thought it dragged on for far too long.
 
I've been reading Fables lately, after my friend suggested it, and I'm in love with it. I'm on Volume 12, so I'm getting very close the where the series is now. Boy Blue ( :csad: ), Flycatcher, and Cinderella are my faves. I always think of Sarah Michelle Gellar when I read stories with Cindy.
 
Some info on the whole Swamp Thing/Constantine back in the DCU proper comics:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=32062

he question most people are going to be asking is simply "How does this work?" With Constantine, there are horror elements, language elements and sexual elements that have been in his stories that I'm sure you don't want dropping into the middle of, say, "Teen Titans." Was there an idea of the pieces of the Vertigo cast you knew would carry over, or is each story done in its own way?
You have to take each story in its own way, but there are two very distinct approaches to how we're bringing Constantine to DCU and Vertigo simultaneously. First, there's not a thing that will change about John Constantine's "Hellblazer" book at Vertigo. That book has a particular voice and a particular style, and it's nothing we want to upset the apple cart on. It's a very successful series for us, and we don't want to do anything that would be detrimental to it. So it will continue with the same flavor, style and tone it's always had. Nothing changes at all. And then when you look at how Constantine fits in the DCU, well...we have a template for that, and it's the Constantine that was in the DCU when he first appeared. He had a voice, a style and a tone, and we're going to use that particular style and voice for the character in the stories we plan to tell with him. We have a template for both versions, and there's quite honestly no reason to merge them. Constantine in the Vertigo universe is in his 60s, and what you have in the DC Universe is a character who is markedly younger. It's something where if you looked at him when he first appeared, he hasn't aged a day. Go figure! [Laughs] You can come up with some story reason for that if you want, but we like to think he's just been waiting for us to bring him back in the DCU.


That brings up a question we'd been talking about over here when Swamp Thing came back: namely, what parts of the characters history will impact them as they appear in the DC Universe moving forward? Aside from "Hellblazer" affecting Constantine's status, Swamp Thing has had a number of Vertigo series over the years. Can we assume that these versions will take their history primarily from what happened up to the DC/Vertigo split?
I would say absolutely. That's not to say that there may not be places within those stories that become inspiration for a story idea now, but like I said before, there's a particular tonality and theme that is unique to Vertigo. That's why we have a separate imprint. It's not because they can curse or there's some sexuality that's not shown in the DC Universe. There's a maturity in the storytelling and a deeper focus and examination of the characters. That works extraordinarily well for that kind of universe. Meanwhile, in the DC Universe we have things that are much more rooted in the action adventure realm, so therefore there's a different style of story that will be taking place with these characters as they'll be used in the DCU that'll be separate from the way they're portrayed in Vertigo. So if a story subject works for the DC Universe, we can use that for story material, but if it doesn't, it can stay – and it's important that it stays – with Vertigo.


The last element that a lot of folks will be wondering is with Constantine now back on the DCU beat, is there any chance we'll see more DC characters appearing in "Hellblazer"?
It's hard to say whether or not there will be DCU characters because it stands so well without them. It doesn't need those types of characters in there. But that's not to say that down the road you might not see Swamp Thing appear back in there. One of the reasons that Constantine is appearing in a book involving Swamp Thing now is that he's created a very integral part of that character's history and storytelling, and I have to think that's reciprocal to how things appear in Vertigo.
So, it was just like I expected with Constantine, they are taking a Punisher-PunisherMAX approach to it. Sounds like they won't be changing any of Moore's stuff, either, but maybe some of the stuff that came after under the Vertigo banner. I hope that doesn't mean Tefé will be completely ignored. I liked that character.
 
he question most people are going to be asking is simply "How does this work?" With Constantine, there are horror elements, language elements and sexual elements that have been in his stories that I'm sure you don't want dropping into the middle of, say, "Teen Titans."

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After my initial fanboy rant I've cooled off and realized I don't care. As long as it doesn't affect Hellblazer whatever. Now if Morrison or Cornell get their hands on the character sign me up. An Ennis Constantine/Etrigan team-up? Make it happen DC.

The only reason that I cared about Swamp Thing is they stopped a potiential great Vertigo mini-series for making him a Lantern.
 
Why did you have to post those panels Watchman

Whyyyyyyy ;_;

You can come up with some story reason for that if you want, but we like to think he's just been waiting for us to bring him back in the DCU.

I think i can imagine what Constantine himself would say to a comment that stupid
 
There are some good creators involved with that. It'll be especially nice to see Juan Bobillo's work again. I haven't seen him on anything besides Dan Slott's She-Hulk several years ago.
 
I really like the cover, hope a larger version comes out soon
 
Paul Cornell writing for Vertigo makes me :) fantastic news i cannot wait to read it
 
Everyone needs to read iZombie :up:

It's the one of my favourite Vertigo comic books even if it has the worstest title ever
 
I really want to get into that series. Matt Wagner is always a solid writer.
 
you could pm me for download links. i just wish they would finish collecting them in trade paperbacks
 
Well, at least he'll get to conclude everything.
 

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