The Dark Knight Rises The Official "What Do YOU Want in the Sequel?" Thread

[CJ]

I had an odd dream about The Dark Knight sequel.

A trailer of the movie leaked on ComingSoon.net, which featured Leonardo Dicaprio playing the villain, taking over for Tom Hardy, who dropped out of the film.

Leo had an accent similar to Vanko in Iron Man 2. He found an upside-down Batmobile in an alley and was examining it, when Bruce showed up. Obviously Bruce couldn't take the car, since he'd be revealing he was Batman, so he just stood there and made small talk with Leo's character. Leo said something about how he wants to steal the Batmobile's technology, so that every garage would have one.

Then fast-forward to another scene in a dirty apartment. Leo has mechanical arms like Doc Ock. He wraps them around some lady's face. Ben Affleck then shows up and says to take him instead. Leo wraps more arms around Ben's face. Cut to the window of the apartment, two loud crunching noises were heard. Leo then said something about Batman, which I can't remember.

...I shouldn't have eaten so much junk food before bed last night.


Anyway, no, I don't want ANY of that in TDK Sequel. I just felt like sharing it with you guys.

 

[Bat-Mite]

... Ben Affleck then shows up ...

It's an omen. TDKR will be a crossover film!

 

[LAOCH]

One thing that I do want for sure is the reveal of the "improvements" in the southeast corner of Wayne Manor.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I'd like to see a fully stocked Batcave by the end of the next movie. I think that would still fit in to Nolan's current interpretation of the character....

 

[Art Damage]

Wow, haven't posted on this forum in a year and five months. Damn, how time flies when you're busy.

Anywho, I've been watching the old TDK trailers and thinking back to how I have NEVER been more excited for a film release in my entire life like I was throughout mid 2007 to the summer the film came out. The hype and excitement is starting to bubble inside me again for TDKR.

I would like to see a little bit more of extended fight scenes. The fight scene in the club in The Dark Knight when Batman is going to find Maroni still gives me chills to this day and it's also one of my favorite scenes. Maybe besides more of the great detective work we saw in TDK, let's show more of Batman's amazing fighting skills in the new one.

Personally, I've been pushing everyone I know about how great it would be to see Scarface/Ventriloquist portrayed by Paul Giamatti but I know that ain't going to happen so Tom Hardy will be a very interesting casting decision into what role he gets. For anyone who has seen the movie Bronson (if you haven't, SEE IT NOW) Hardy shows he can not only be psychologically scary but one hell of a brawler.

I might be the only one but I'm really hoping there's no female villian in this one. I really could care less about Catwoman or Talia Al Ghul and honestly I don't know why everyone seems to jump on the bandwagon for the Catwoman character. A female lead is fine, if it's going to be along the lines of a Rachel character. I know other people are against me on this and are really hoping that one of the main villians could possibly either two...but I'd like to think Nolan will hit us up with something the rumors haven't been talking about completely shocks us. Like when we found out Heath Ledger was gonna be Joker.

 

[The Guard]

You know what I'd like to see? Pieces of the cave. New areas he's utilizing, and then maybe he takes somewhere there, and we see the entirety of the new cave design revealed.

 

[Naite22]

What I've realized about these flicks, especially regarding Dark Knight, is how little these movies are actually about the action of it. The Action comes out of the story, and every piece makes sense to the bone!

I dont know what I'd want in the sequel. I tell ya, if we get a movie that's just half as good as TDK, then I'll be satisfied... But I honnestly dont know what to expect. This is Nolan. I'm sure he has something special up his sleeve.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I want to see the Bat-wing, but something tells me it wouldn't be a part of the 'realistic' tone of the film.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Would it reek of fanfiction if some of Black Mask's men captured Reese and tortured him in order to gain access to the weapon plans of Wayne Enterprises' military division? I think Sionis trying to ruin Wayne by having their tech leaked to the Underworld and attempting to bring down Batman by supplying the GPD or the anti-Batman task force with their own technology to aid in their hunt for Batman.

I wouldn't mind reading it if it were a fanfiction! But anyway, Reese should definitely return, he's sitting on an interesting position now, and frankly I'm not optimistic enough to trust him with Wayne's secret. He'd make a go for a big reveal (unless they make him more of a good guy this time around) when **** hits the fan, maybe, like your interrogation scene, an encounter with the villain. Why not right? Our very own Reese, the Boy Hostage

I had an odd dream about The Dark Knight sequel.

A trailer of the movie leaked on ComingSoon.net, which featured Leonardo Dicaprio playing the villain, taking over for Tom Hardy, who dropped out of the film.

Leo had an accent similar to Vanko in Iron Man 2. He found an upside-down Batmobile in an alley and was examining it, when Bruce showed up. Obviously Bruce couldn't take the car, since he'd be revealing he was Batman, so he just stood there and made small talk with Leo's character. Leo said something about how he wants to steal the Batmobile's technology, so that every garage would have one.

Then fast-forward to another scene in a dirty apartment. Leo has mechanical arms like Doc Ock. He wraps them around some lady's face. Ben Affleck then shows up and says to take him instead. Leo wraps more arms around Ben's face. Cut to the window of the apartment, two loud crunching noises were heard. Leo then said something about Batman, which I can't remember.

...I shouldn't have eaten so much junk food before bed last night.


Anyway, no, I don't want ANY of that in TDK Sequel. I just felt like sharing it with you guys.

That's some nightmare... you sure it wasn't an inception?

:P couldn't help myself.

 

[Dark Knight]

Yeah, I want to see a bit of a battle scarred and bloodied Batman in the next film. Nothing over the top gory or anything since it is a PG-13 film, but some blood for crying out loud.

I didn't like it at all, that Nolan chose not to add some blood to the Jokers lip or nose when Batman was beating him silly in the interrogation room scene in TDK. It's a nit pick of mine....come on, Batman was beating the crap out him and no blood? Nolan didn't have to wuss out like that and I was quite surprised.

None of the other films before have shown us a bloodied up Batman like that since Burtons 89 Bat film.

Nolan needs to one up Burton in that regard. I saw more blood in the most recent Potter film, than I have in both BB and TDK.

Come on!

 

[Bats]

Reese should definitely return, he's sitting on an interesting position now, and frankly I'm not optimistic enough to trust him with Wayne's secret. He'd make a go for a big reveal (unless they make him more of a good guy this time around) when **** hits the fan, maybe, like your interrogation scene, an encounter with the villain. Why not right? Our very own Reese, the Boy Hostage

I think his story was done in TDK when Bruce & him exchanged looks after the accident. Plus any kind of kidnapping/interrogation scene with him would've been done in TDK I think. Something like that in the new film might seem out of place since it didn't really go 'back' to anything that was in BB.

That's some nightmare... you sure it wasn't an inception?

Had a dream about TDKR myself. My gf & I were looking for the trailer for it via a Comcast box and started playing it. Turns out it was the actual film! Only saw the first part, not much action, but saw Bruce in a new Batsuit standing in his place that was gray. Then it got interrupted. Meh.

 

[CJ]

Yeah, I want to see a bit of a battle scarred and bloodied Batman in the next film. Nothing over the top gory or anything since it is a PG-13 film, but some blood for crying out loud.

I didn't like it at all, that Nolan chose not to add some blood to the Jokers lip or nose when Batman was beating him silly in the interrogation room scene in TDK. It's a nit pick of mine....come on, Batman was beating the crap out him and no blood? Nolan didn't have to wuss out like that and I was quite surprised.

None of the other films before have shown us a bloodied up Batman like that since Burtons 89 Bat film.

Nolan needs to one up Burton in that regard. I saw more blood in the most recent Potter film, than I have in both BB and TDK.

Come on!

Well.. There was some blood on Batman's arm when he got knocked off Scarecrow's van in the beginning of the film, and there's a very brief scene when Harvey was shown on a strecher after being set on fire, you could see he was wrapped in blood covered bandages.

Considering all of the death Joker was spreading around Gotham, (not to mention Two-Face's appearance) I think that the lack of blood was the only thing keeping the film from getting an R. I was suprised the film got away with a PG-13 even with the lack of blood.

I think his story was done in TDK when Bruce & him exchanged looks after the accident. Plus any kind of kidnapping/interrogation scene with him would've been done in TDK I think. Something like that in the new film might seem out of place since it didn't really go 'back' to anything that was in BB.

Not really. After Bruce saved him, I don't think Reese would want to spill the beans, but he publicly said he knows the identity of Batman. And TDK ended with Batman being a wanted murderer. The Gotham PD is going to try and squeeze that information out of Reese, not to mention, whatever new villain is involved in the film.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Heh. Aw well. No point in remembering that then. You're probably right about Reese, and I'd be fine with it if they don't show him at all, compared with the possibly overwhelming theme of Bats' presence in Gotham and his secret identity, knowing that there are ordinary people out there with the knowledge and are doing fine would add a sense of optimism to the tale. Like Spider-Man 2. Apologies if that offends DC fans on the board.

Anyway, I've been thinking if Joker should get an appearance or not. Granted, Nolan's said he doesn't want to use stock-footage of Ledger, but as I recall the Scarecrow isn't the only villain who was 'in' two Batman films; the Joker was too. That 'cameo' at the end of Batman Begins should count for something. Everyone knew they were talking about the greatest Batman foe ever made. So why not do something similar? A slight mention, if not a complete reminisce. Who knows, like I've said before, they could just show the Joker card in the cave, in the background or something. The new cave's been dismantled, Alfred burned everything right? We'll definitely be looking at a new set this time around, hopefully one that stays true to the nature of the films.

 

[The Demon's Head]

I was suprised it didn't get an R rating when the finale involves one of the villains holding a kid at gunpoint.

 

[PreK]

Considering all of the death Joker was spreading around Gotham, (not to mention Two-Face's appearance) I think that the lack of blood was the only thing keeping the film from getting an R. I was suprised the film got away with a PG-13 even with the lack of blood.

Have you seen True Grit recently? You can get away with a lot in PG-13. It's simply a matter of not being overt.

I was suprised it didn't get an R rating when the finale involves one of the villains holding a kid at gunpoint.

Oddly enough, I think Two-Face not pointing the gun at his head was what kept them within the guidelines.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I was suprised the film got away with a PG-13 even with the lack of blood.

I agree. TDK had enough gore to satisfy my need for blood, and that's coming from a Mortal Kombat 3 fan.

Not really. After Bruce saved him, I don't think Reese would want to spill the beans, but he publicly said he knows the identity of Batman. And TDK ended with Batman being a wanted murderer. The Gotham PD is going to try and squeeze that information out of Reese, not to mention, whatever new villain is involved in the film.

Well, there are two answers to that: 1) His 'knowledge' could be deemed b.s. 2) He could simply deny cooperation with the cops for his own safety. Besides, Gordon would try his best to make sure that doesn't happen, now that he's the commissioner (another reason to introduce Sarah this time).

Btw, good to find a fellow FictionPress user on the Hype

 

[Nave 'Torment']

PG-13 is actually a much more preferable rating for artists these days, at least audiences know that it isn't filled with mindless F-bombs, blatant (and pointless) nudity, and/or carnography.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I was re-reading Batman: Year Two (the re-print from 2002) today and I couldn't help but think how a lot of it resembles Batman Begins. You have a love-interest named Rachel, who breaks up the relationship for a 'higher cause', a scene with Bruce egging on to shoot Joe Chill but falling short because an antagonistic figure kills Chill instead, and finally in the sequel, Bruce throwing the gun in the Gotham river.

But nothing reminded me more of BB's Henri Ducard/Ra's Al Ghul than the Reaper: a crimefighter who spurred into a life of vigilantism after his wife is murdered, has a European veneer, and is quite literally taking Batman's sense of justice to extremes that the caped crusader cannot agree with.

 

[Bats]

Not really. After Bruce saved him, I don't think Reese would want to spill the beans, but he publicly said he knows the identity of Batman. And TDK ended with Batman being a wanted murderer. The Gotham PD is going to try and squeeze that information out of Reese, not to mention, whatever new villain is involved in the film.

Not sure which part of my post you're saying "Not really" to. My point was basically that TDK didn't seem to continue or go back to any plot element from BB. So that for TDKR to use Reese & his knowledge, although possible, doesn't seem likely IMO. Add to that any kidnapping/interrogation scene of his would've fit better in TDK. It just seems that his story is done with TDK.

 

[Figs]

Yeah, I want to see a bit of a battle scarred and bloodied Batman in the next film. Nothing over the top gory or anything since it is a PG-13 film, but some blood for crying out loud.

That's why one of the villians I want in the film is Bane. He would be a major physical threat that would whoop Batman's ass a bit.

Considering all of the death Joker was spreading around Gotham, (not to mention Two-Face's appearance) I think that the lack of blood was the only thing keeping the film from getting an R. I was suprised the film got away with a PG-13 even with the lack of blood.

I remember reading something from I think Nolan(might have been someone else who worked on the film), where they said that they nearly got slapped with an R. So it doesn't surprise me they had to not use a lot of blood and changed the knife stuck in the fake Batman to a safety pin.

 

[RustyCage]

It's an omen. TDKR will be a crossover film!

... Do I spy the Bat-bra?

 

[CJ]

Not sure which part of my post you're saying "Not really" to.

I was referring to when you said

I think his story was done in TDK when Bruce & him exchanged looks after the accident.

The Gotham PD are now on a massive manhunt for Batman, believing him to be responsible for the murder of a District Attorney. Reese publicly said he knows who Batman is. The Gotham PD would be complete idiots to not be questioning Reese. I know Gordon is in control, and he will do his best to keep Batman from being arrested, but there's going to be tons of cops wanting to talk to Reese about the matter. There's no way Reese's story is done.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I've been thinking about whether or not Murphy should be brought back for another cameo. The answer is yes. And the reason is very drenched in "lets allude to the book!"

Right off the bat I think HUSH would make a much more interesting villain (than Bane or any of the others suggested) in TDKR. If this is the case, and if the film stays true to the 'Batman's early days' approach, then I think Hush could be an amalgamation of both Holiday and Hangman. As such, Jonathan Crane could be given a scene/minor role a la Julian Day from The Long Halloween. Him pulling a Hannibal Lecter from Arkham, taunting both Bats and Gordon would be interesting, hell, at this point I can imagine him humming "Hush little baby..." from that straight-jacket and padded cell.

 

[the amazing fro]

PG-13 is actually a much more preferable rating for artists these days, at least audiences know that it isn't filled with mindless F-bombs, blatant (and pointless) nudity, and/or carnography.

Theres no such thing as pointless nudity

 

[Paste Pot Pete]

I was referring to when you said



The Gotham PD are now on a massive manhunt for Batman, believing him to be responsible for the murder of a District Attorney. Reese publicly said he knows who Batman is. The Gotham PD would be complete idiots to not be questioning Reese. I know Gordon is in control, and he will do his best to keep Batman from being arrested, but there's going to be tons of cops wanting to talk to Reese about the matter. There's no way Reese's story is done.

Nolan ain't bringing him back. Consider it a plot hole, whatever. Say it was resolved off-screen. Maybe they'll do it in the viral marketing.