Iron Man 2 The Official Whiplash Thread

[Brian Braddock]

Unicorn?

Porcupine?

 

[Chewy]

^ Or Spymaster, Living Laser, Controller, Melter... the list goes on

 

[WeaponXProject]

Unicorn?

Porcupine?

^ Or Spymaster, Living Laser, Controller, Melter... the list goes on

Yeah, I agree about Iron Monger being obscure but his relation to the movie and how Iron Man became made sense. Which character is an easier translation to film in relation to the character of Tony Stark/Iron Man.

 

[Chewy]

Yeah, I agree about Iron Monger being obscure but his relation to the movie and how Iron Man became made sense. Which character is an easier translation to film in relation to the character of Tony Stark/Iron Man.

The thing is that any of them COULD potentially be written to tie into Tony's life. most of the ones mentioned by you and SUPERBENITEZ and myself have ties to Justin Hammer in the comics.

I also don't see how using an obscure villain and expanding on him would hurt. Let's be honest - IM's rogue's gallery is weak because most of them are two-bit henchmen. For years, if you asked someone to name a few Iron Man villains, they'd likely only have been able to name Mandarin & Alcohol - even most comic fans (okay, MAYBE some comic fans would have been able to name Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, Justin Hammer, Iron Monger, and Fin Fang Foom ). Now, I'd bet most people know who Iron Monger is. That type of exposure could easily turn a C-list villain into an archenemy.

 

[Brian Braddock]

I would cream my jeans if the Living Laser was ever adapted in a live action IM movie.

I always rememeber how awesome he was during the Armour Wars II ark. JRJR drew him with just so much raw power:-

 

[WeaponXProject]

The thing is that any of them COULD potentially be written to tie into Tony's life. most of the ones mentioned by you and SUPERBENITEZ and myself have ties to Justin Hammer in the comics.

I also don't see how using an obscure villain and expanding on him would hurt. Let's be honest - IM's rogue's gallery is weak because most of them are two-bit henchmen. For years, if you asked someone to name a few Iron Man villains, they'd likely only have been able to name Mandarin & Alcohol - even most comic fans (okay, MAYBE some comic fans would have been able to name Crimson Dynamo, Titanium Man, Justin Hammer, Iron Monger, and Fin Fang Foom ). Now, I'd bet most people know who Iron Monger is. That type of exposure could easily turn a C-list villain into an archenemy.

Justin Hammer/Sam Rockwell is confirmed right? so it is definitely gonna be someone that interacts with him and his dealings.

 

[Rich Santoro]

Well if its so obvious that CD should/could be the villain then why did RDJ state that is who Rourke is not playing? Or do you think RDJ is lying. Why is Whiplash even being considered then? It seems to me they want to bring something different to the armored villain character otherwise Whiplash would have never been mentioned and RDJ's answers would have been different.

Did I suggest that RDJ is lying??? I said if WL is how this thing is going to go (as per RDJ's comments) then that is a huge misfire. I think it is a weak choice compared to CD. My list of 4 things was in repsonse to you saying that an armored villain would be a rehash, and that someone like WL is what is needed to keep it fresh. I disagree, and I explained why... Those comments have nothing to do with what RDJ said, nor what Favs may have planned...

 

[Brian Braddock]

RDJ lying? Nah.

RDJ indulging in a bit of playful, mishievious misdirection?

Now that I can believe.

 

[The Sarge]

What about Constrictor? He seems to fit the description pretty well.
The Justin Hammer connection, the mechanical Coils. . .

I'm surprised no one else is saying it might be him.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

I would cream my jeans if the Living Laser was ever adapted in a live action IM movie.

I always rememeber how awesome he was during the Armour Wars II ark. JRJR drew him with just so much raw power:-

The Living Laser it's a great villain, but my favourite is Spymaster.

 

[FaT_tONle]

So an armored villain with whips/coils is the bes they can do??? Psshh... just do either TM or CD if you go armored villain.

 

[Rich Santoro]

What about Constrictor? He seems to fit the description pretty well.
The Justin Hammer connection, the mechanical Coils. . .

I'm surprised no one else is saying it might be him.

I did mention that a while back... not that he would be any better.

The only way that I could feel good about WL is if he is just one of an ensemble of bad guys, who are Hammer's prototypes for a variety of combat gear, equipment, and battle suits.

But I still MUCH prefer CD... Perhaps a small cast of villians like WL, Blizzard, Ghost, Spymaster... working to hatch Hammer's schemes in different capacities (including a confrontation or two)... But then a culmination for CD or TM would be a nice resolution. However, I would not want it to get too watered down with a bunch of guys. Spymater would fit, in a corporate espionage kind of way, then one or two physical baddies like WL...

We don't want too much time developing too many villains, but we don't want to just gloss over them either.

 

[mclay18]

RDJ lying? Nah.

RDJ indulging in a bit of playful, mishievious misdirection?

Now that I can believe.

The way he did it was unnecessary. The "Oh, Mick's not playing Crimson Dyn-- oops, I can neither confirm nor deny he's cast as CD" just rubs me the wrong way.

RDJ can be a pr*** sometimes. He should just focus on what he's doing right now and what he can actually say about IM-2.

 

[Chewy]

The way he did it was unnecessary. The "Oh, Mick's not playing Crimson Dyn-- oops, I can neither confirm nor deny he's cast as CD" just rubs me the wrong way.

RDJ can be a pr*** sometimes. He should just focus on what he's doing right now and what he can actually say about IM-2.

Uh, that's not what he said

The guy asked if Rourke would be CD, and Downey said "That's actually incorrect." Then the guy asked if Rourke would be Whiplash, and Downey said "I can neither confirm or deny that."

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Did I suggest that RDJ is lying??? I said if WL is how this thing is going to go (as per RDJ's comments) then that is a huge misfire. I think it is a weak choice compared to CD. My list of 4 things was in repsonse to you saying that an armored villain would be a rehash, and that someone like WL is what is needed to keep it fresh. I disagree, and I explained why... Those comments have nothing to do with what RDJ said, nor what Favs may have planned...

I wasn't implying that you thought RDJ was lying, I was just asking sincerely if you thought he was. I'm just trying to look at it from the perspective of Favs and crew on why they may have chosen WL over CD, and the most apparent thing to me is that CD is a lot like Iron Monger. Personally, I would have no problem seeing CD as the villain and I like a lot of what you suggested that could be done with CD if he was chosen as the villain.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Uh, that's not what he said

The guy asked if Rourke would be CD, and Downey said "That's actually incorrect." Then the guy asked if Rourke would be Whiplash, and Downey said "I can neither confirm or deny that."

Yea, RDJ wasn't being a prick at all. In fact, I thought he was being quite open for where they are in this stage of the film. He clearly said "incorrect" to Rourke playing CD and then was more coy when it came to the character of Whiplash. I have no problem with the way he handled the question. And he even mentioned the fight coming from within(IIRC), which I take as meaning that perhaps they will touch on the DIAB storyline.

 

[fu manchu]

so, no on Crimson Dynamo.

and I hope its not Whiplash, they are far better villains than him. But I have confidence in Favreau and Downey to make an awesome film.

 

[Chris B]

So you want Iron Man to keep fighting guys in these same type of armor suits? They did that already with the first film: Iron Man vs Iron Monger. How much different would it be with Iron Man vs Crimson Dynamo. It's been there, done that. And I'm sure Favreau is aware of that, he will want to keep things as fresh as possible and that would include a villain that's not as similar as to the one from the previous film.

It's why I believe we will get Whiplash. A re-imagined Whiplash with an enhanced suit but not one that looks like Iron Monger all over again, and then add in the coils and at we have something that looks different for Iron Man to fight.

I'd have to agree with Rich Santoro that Iron Man vs. Iron Monger wasn't really the pinnacle of what Iron Man can do against another armored villain. Stark was pretty much just getting thrown around for the duration of fight.

I understand that visually it may seem repetitive, but at the same time, I think the potential for more dynamic action sequences would make up for that.

But we'll see soon enough.

 

[Doctor Jones]

The way he did it was unnecessary. The "Oh, Mick's not playing Crimson Dyn-- oops, I can neither confirm nor deny he's cast as CD" just rubs me the wrong way.

RDJ can be a pr*** sometimes. He should just focus on what he's doing right now and what he can actually say about IM-2.

That's his sense of humor dude. And a very unique one at that.

 

[kedrell]

^Doc I gotta ask, who's the babe in you avvy? I need's me a wife.

 

[rayc1971]

why isnt favereau using the mandarin in this he said awhile back that he wanted iron man 2 to be his dark knight or terminator 2! he cannot have a epic sequel without iron mans greatest villian!

 

[kedrell]

It depends on what works best organically for the story. I'm fine with Mandarin being bumped back to IM3 if it means a better story for both #2 and #3. Same thing with the alcoholism and War Machine. Do I want so see all of them eventually? YES! But I'm being patient in hopes that each film we get is a great experience in and of itself. Keep in mind, like Batman films or Bond films, I want these to keep going on and on.

 

[FaT_tONle]

RDJ is getting kinda up there in age... I hope the motivation for doing a third IM will be more than just the paycheck... I am sure he loves the character and all... but we saw what happens when a cast gets tired of a superhero franchise... SM3 first comes to mind. Hope they fast track it right after Avengers for 2013 just so everything gets done as quickly and as smoothly as possible. Plus taking the extra year is by no means a guarantee the film will be any good

 

[Octoberist]

The way he did it was unnecessary. The "Oh, Mick's not playing Crimson Dyn-- oops, I can neither confirm nor deny he's cast as CD" just rubs me the wrong way.

RDJ can be a pr*** sometimes. He should just focus on what he's doing right now and what he can actually say about IM-2.

I'm glad that he's a pr***. That's why I love him.

 

[Rich Santoro]

I wasn't implying that you thought RDJ was lying, I was just asking sincerely if you thought he was. I'm just trying to look at it from the perspective of Favs and crew on why they may have chosen WL over CD, and the most apparent thing to me is that CD is a lot like Iron Monger. Personally, I would have no problem seeing CD as the villain and I like a lot of what you suggested that could be done with CD if he was chosen as the villain.

I gotchya... I have no idea if RDJ was being coy, and intentionally obfuscating... or if he had no clue and was just mish-mashing some of the things that he heard being discussed... Anyway, I couldn't even speculate on what he knows, and what possible meaning he may have had behind what he was saying.