Iron Man 2 The Official Whiplash Thread

Damn, we were close to getting an answer from Rourke on Jonathan Ross! Ross asked him about him doing The Expendables, and Rourke says "Actually, the way it's worked out, I'm only doing a day of shooting for The Expendables, because I...", then Ross cut him off by going on a sidetrack about Jason Statham, and they haven't returned to the topic.
 
How long has he been on? Interviews on Ross are usually around 15 minutes, right? Maybe they'll get back to it...
 
Nope, interview's finished now, and they never went back to it. Great interview, though.
 
The statement is hyperbolic, sure. But not silly.
Yes, it's absolutely silly. It's declaring fans of character X to be "hateful." That's silly to such a degree that if it were to be calculated mathematically, the numbers would be astronomical.

And the frame of mind is based on the fact that when Spider-Man toppled Batman's box office, we weren't beating Bat-fans over the head with it relentlessly. Nor were we excusing Spidey's flaws while blowing Batman's way out of proportion.
Are you sure? Somehow I would not be surprised if you were looking back through rose-coloured glasses. I've been on these boards a long time, and one thing I've observed is that idiots and unreasonables exist in equal proportion among all groups, and at all times.

But it often seems like you can't go to any forum on this board without that happening.
And this qualifies as making Batfans "hateful?" Ridiculous. More importantly, this is largely irrelevant. I could just as easily say "And I can't step into a Spider-Man forum without the Spider-fans being unreasonable and hostile about XYZ." The truth is that people are people no matter where you go, and there are as many *******s in your camp as there are in any other. The distinction you imagine between yourself and them is a phantom one.

Fanboy tribalism would be hilarious if it wasn't so incredibly sad.
 
The statement is hyperbolic, sure. But not silly. And the frame of mind is based on the fact that when Spider-Man toppled Batman's box office, we weren't beating Bat-fans over the head with it relentlessly. Nor were we excusing Spidey's flaws while blowing Batman's way out of proportion. But it often seems like you can't go to any forum on this board without that happening.

In all fairness... there were quite a few people raining in on TDK parade once the IM numbers started coming in. A lot of Marvel people were sure they had a winner that would outdo TDK. Nothing wrong with that. But I really don't recall THAT MANY Batman fans coming to Marvel boards and raining on the parade. There are several posters out there that do/did that I am sure... but I am sure there is a substantial amount of Marvel people that did the exact same thing leading up to TDK. 40% is just a complete misrepresentation IMO. I mean SPIDEY clumped me in there and I have zero history of trolling on Marvel boards in favor of Batman/Nolan. I think she just clumps any Bat fan in there that gets confrontational with her regarding Nolan's Batman.
 
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The statement is hyperbolic, sure. But not silly. And the frame of mind is based on the fact that when Spider-Man toppled Batman's box office, we weren't beating Bat-fans over the head with it relentlessly. Nor were we excusing Spidey's flaws while blowing Batman's way out of proportion. But it often seems like you can't go to any forum on this board without that happening.
In all fairness, that's really not the same. The Spiderman movies were good, sure, even on par with Batman Begins. But The Dark Knight isn't another run-of-the-mill superhero movie, in fact writing it off as "just a movie" is a little silly in and of itself. The Dark Knight is actually a lot more than that. It has its own energy. For a alot of people, things changed in July of 2008. I don't think people can say that about Spiderman.
 
According to the latest Production Weekly (which came out today), the cast is as follows:

Robert Downey Jr, Don Cheadle, Gwyneth Paltrow, Tim Robbins, Sam Rockwell, and Emily Blunt.

So officially no Rourke yet...
 
Damn, we were close to getting an answer from Rourke on Jonathan Ross! Ross asked him about him doing The Expendables, and Rourke says "Actually, the way it's worked out, I'm only doing a day of shooting for The Expendables, because I...", then Ross cut him off by going on a sidetrack about Jason Statham, and they haven't returned to the topic.


That Bas-turd.
 
so, if we don't end up with Rourke...

who are some possible runner ups?
 
I've got to be honest, i'm not devastated that Rourke is possible gone, as I dont think he was right for the role in the first place, and I have serious doubts about his ability to do a Russian accent, if indeed thats who he was playing.

Somelike like Ron Perlman or Tom Jane would be better in the role IMO.
 
As long as whoever they get is a good actor and can pass for eastern european, if they're still doing CD, then I'm good.
 
As long as whoever they get is a good actor and can pass for eastern european, if they're still doing CD, then I'm good.

Agreed. Mickey Rourke wouldn't be bad to have in the film, but if they can't get him I won't cry. I have faith in Favreau that nobody who they cast it's still going to be an awesome film.
 
In all fairness, that's really not the same. The Spiderman movies were good, sure, even on par with Batman Begins. But The Dark Knight isn't another run-of-the-mill superhero movie, in fact writing it off as "just a movie" is a little silly in and of itself. The Dark Knight is actually a lot more than that. It has its own energy. For a alot of people, things changed in July of 2008. I don't think people can say that about Spiderman.
And this is what I'm talking about. People like you think that it's impossible for anyone to like the Spider-Man movies over TDK. It's not because I am one of those people right now. Ofcourse over the years my opinion can change but right now I perfer the first two Spider-Man movies and that opinion can't be wrong because it is infact an opinion. Nor can your opinion that it is the best thing since slice bread.
 
^Exactly. And to atleast pretend that this post is about Iron Man, I'd put Iron Man above Batman Begins.
 
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How can anyone possibly say they don't think Rourke was right for the role when we don't know what the role was? :huh:
 
what is funny is that if the Wrestler wasnt realesed we wouldnt even mention Rourke after 2 days.
people are acting like he is the best actor in movie history.
 
what is funny is that if the Wrestler wasnt realesed we wouldnt even mention Rourke after 2 days.
people are acting like he is the best actor in movie history.

It's a slow news cycle w/ all the bad news, and his current popularity isn't so much for his work but everybody digs a comeback,

Comic folk like me are interested cause it's 'Marv'

"Beefin up the ol' home security huh?"
"You bet your ass":word:
 
How can anyone possibly say they don't think Rourke was right for the role when we don't know what the role was? :huh:

it kinda sounds to me like, they had him in mind when writing the character, so, they probably modified the character to fit him,better, so, ya, i'd say he was right for the role they were planning for him
(rather or not, that means a character that's accurate to comics is another story)

But, if they don't get him, they will probably have to change the way the character is written to fit who ever they do cast, or try to find someone else that’s similar enough to Rourke, too fit what they had in mind
 
2007

Robert Downey Jr might not be Iron Man after all:

"what is funny is that if Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wasnt released we wouldn't even mention Robert Downey Jr after 2 days.
people are acting like he is the best actor in movie history."

"It's a slow news cycle w/ all the bad news, and his current popularity isn't so much for his work but everybody digs a comeback."
 
^ :lmao:

Here's another article that indicates Rourke is still in talks

No Hollywood comeback story is a one-man show. And Mickey Rourke has been generous with crediting others for his return to stardom in The Wrestler. One name you'll hear again if he wins the best-actor Oscar on Sunday: David Unger, his agent.
Seven years ago, in an empty coffee shop, the hulking actor and a few of his small dogs met with the young, hungry rep. Rourke was lucky to get even that meeting. His raucous past had destroyed practically every relationship left from his days as a heartthrob tough guy in the 1980s.

No one cared, except the 30-year-old newcomer. "I told him I was a young agent with a lot to prove. And I believed in him," says Unger, now 37. "I approached him from a place of immense respect. It showed him I was putting my belief in him completely. And I asked him to do the same."

The two make an unlikely team. Unger, with his crisp enunciation and impeccable style, looks like someone the brawny, weathered Rourke might beat up. It was Unger who had to do the fighting, though.

Skeptical colleagues at ICM asked him whether Rourke was worth the effort. But Unger was determined, building Rourke's resurgence by targeting younger directors. "For me he was James Dean or Marlon Brando," Unger says. "I was a fan. I grew up on films like Rumble Fish and Body Heat and Diner and 9½ Weeks. I knew if I appealed to filmmakers who were a part of my generation, they would feel the same way."

Unger would arrange meetings with the filmmakers, and Rourke would show up to charm them, mea-culpa over his past and insist he could be relied upon. "He wanted to be a movie star again," Unger says. "So he would just go and reintroduce himself, as would any young kid trying to make it in Hollywood."

Progress was slow but steady. "The best testimony is filmmakers working with him repeatedly," Unger says. Tony Scott cast him in a small part in Man on Fire, then a larger one in Domino. Robert Rodriguez signed him for a small role in Once Upon a Time in Mexico, then a major role in Sin City.

They had to fight harder for The Wrestler; though director Darren Aronofsky wanted Rourke, financiers preferred Nicolas Cage. "Nic has always been a huge supporter of Mickey's. It's testimony to the respect he has with his peers that he wasn't replaced," Unger says.

Now the big offers are coming in, and Rourke is in talks for a role in the next Iron Man. "This is just the beginning of this second act," Unger says.

He has Rourke's Golden Globe trophy, which the actor gave to him after the ceremony, but he also has the actor's friendship, which is strong currency in a town where clients are easily poached by rival agencies.

Rourke declined an interview this week after the death of Loki, his 18-year-old Chihuahua.

"This armor that he wears in his public persona is not who he really is," Unger says. "He has a gentle soul."

When Unger's parents' dog died, he says, Rourke got them another. "He did it without telling me; my mother had tears in her eyes," he says. "Of course, they named the dog Mickey."

SOURCE
 
Regarding Rourke's casting:

RDJ (on the Red Carpet): "We're working really hard."
 
Just gonna post that :p

OT: But besides Rourke, what other casting rumours for IM 2 have we had?
 
Rourke brought his dog Loki's tux to the Oscars :csad:.
 

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