Iron Man 2 The Official Whiplash Thread

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Give it a rest... I see you on the DC boards *****ing about Supes all the time. And you still can't get over Batman being as successful as it has.

Are you one of those DC V Marvel people? I certainly hope not because that would be a silly thing to be.

I won't apologize for thinking that Superman Returns was s**t and giving my opinions on what should happen with the next film.

I won't apologize for thinking that 40% of the Batman fanbase are hateful, insecure people who feel the need to bash anybody who doesn't think that TDK is the perfect film ever made...instead of just a great film.

BTW: TDK 9/10 (saw it two times in theaters, my first time ever doing that)
IM 8.5/10

Yep, I really am biased.

I'm glad you got that off of your chest buddy because you were obviously holding it in. Got anything else to say? Obviously you are one of those fine 40%. Good luck... and have fun watching the greatest movie of all time. I know I had fun watching it, eventhough I think slightly less of it than you. You pray to it and I see it as just a movie...it's cool, we just have different opinions. Wow, we are way off topic so this is the end okay. I'm going back to the Superman boards to talk to the sane people who both like and dislike the last Superman movie.

I'll be back though. BTW, if you think that I am trolling you should really tell a mod. You have a good night honey!

 

[Endeavor]

Bad news? What?

I don't get all this negativity. Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape because Rourke doesn't think he's going to do it?

My sentiments exactly. I don't care that Rourke isn't involved anymore. If they want to get somebody for less money then go ahead. Im sure there are thousands of hungry unknowns willing to play anything for way less than 250k.
Why does it have to be a known actor anyway?
Jackman was completely unknown in Hollywood when he was cast as the lead in X-Men and look how well that turned out (for both the studio and the actor).
I liked how IM was handled and as long as the director and his team are allowed to do the same thing they did in the first movie I'm sure the sequel will come out ok.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Are you one of those DC V Marvel people? I certainly hope not because that would be a silly thing to be.

I won't apologize for thinking that Superman Returns was s**t and giving my opinions on what should happen with the next film.

I won't apologize for thinking that 40% of the Batman fanbase are hateful, insecure people who feel the need to bash anybody who doesn't think that TDK is the perfect film ever made...instead of just a great film.

BTW: TDK 9/10 (saw it two times in theaters, my first time ever doing that)
IM 8.5/10

Yep, I really am biased.

I'm glad you got that off of your chest buddy because you were obviously holding it in. Got anything else to say? Obviously you are one of those fine 40%. Good luck... and have fun watching the greatest movie of all time. I know I had fun watching it, eventhough I think slightly less of it than you. You pray to it and I see it as just a movie...it's cool, we just have different opinions. Wow, we are way off topic so this is the end okay. I'm going back to the Superman boards to talk to the sane people who both like and dislike the last Superman movie.

I'll be back though. BTW, if you think that I am trolling you should really tell a mod. You have a good night honey!

ROFL... take some anger management classes or something. Jeez... I think you had to get something off your chest with the way it looks. Calling IM fans cry babies from a person who takes any of every opportunity to bash Batman fans and generalize a 10% fanbase to every Batman fan. And has **** the TDK in the sig... take it for what it is worth. You know Vile tells me the same thing too... relax. Try not to be so uptight and spiteful like a little teenage girl all the time. I'll do my best to try and do that... maybe you should start too.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

ROFL... take some anger management classes or something. Jeez... I think you had to get something off your chest with the way it looks. Calling IM fans cry babies from a person who takes any of every opportunity to bash Batman fans and generalize a 10% fanbase to every Batman fan. And has **** the TDK in the sig... take it for what it is worth. You know Vile tells me the same thing too... relax. Try not to be so uptight and spiteful like a little teenage girl all the time. I'll do my best to try and do that... maybe you should start too.

It seems like you are the one who is uptight sir. I will stop responding to the 40% of the Batman fans when they stop being so insucure about their undying love for TDK, when they stop bashing everybody who says the slightest thing against the film.

lol That cry-baby thing must have really hurt your feelings. I'll get you a pacifier.

 

[FaT_tONle]

It seems like you are the one who is uptight sir. I will stop responding to the 40% of the Batman fans when they stop being so insucure about their undying love for TDK, when they stop bashing everybody who says the slightest thing against the film.

lol That cry-baby thing must have really hurt your feelings. I'll get you a pacifier.

Of course... you will keep crying about it. Which was my point. And I can give you a few contacts as well... something to control that short temper, maybe meditate a little and focus that anger on things more important than films. You may find it useful down the road.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Of course... you will keep crying about it. Which was my point. And I can give you a few contacts as well... something to control that short temper, maybe meditate a little and focus that anger on things more important than films. You may find it useful down the road.

The question is do you get that movies aren't the most important thing in the world? The way you and others talk about TDK leads me to believe that you don't.

EDIT: Obviously both of us are more concerned about movies than the average person because we are on a messageboard talking about them.

 

[FaT_tONle]

The question is do you get that movies aren't the most important thing in the world? The way you and others talk about TDK leads me to believe that you don't.

Funny how I can't even remember the last time I even posted there... or anywhere regarding TDK. I guess you are going to clump me in this mysterious 40% that exists... some sect of fanboys that only you seem to justify exists.

 

[marcvader]

Could care less if Mickey is not in this movie. The only casting I know that matters to me right now is that RDJ is Tony, everything else is gravy. Sometimes i wish we didn't get so much inside info cuz i bet these kind of things happen all the time but we never hear about it.

 

[chiefchirpa]

whilst i agree with you i must say..i would like to kinda see an 2 vs. 1 match of iron man vs. whiplash and crimson dynamo..i mean...he already got his *** handed to him by obidiah alone...imagine if he had to take on two at the same time! it would probably be kinda like in spiderman 3 before harry showed up...

2 vs 1 is very possible in Iron Man case. Iron Man doesn't have an unchangeable set ability like Spider-Man which is basically webbing & agility compared to his enemies. Iron Man suit consists of modular arsenals and abilities that changes from one scene to another.

That being said, Obadiah vs Iron Man is a peculiar one, because Iron Man never use repulsor beams - his most trusted arsenals - in the fight. Iron Man will not try to outpunch a big opponent. Chinking the armor one at a time with repulsor or unibeam while keeping the jetboot busy is a sounder strategy.

 

[chamber-music]

Wow Jackson, Howard, Rourke, Blunt the cast is dropping like flies. Iron Man 2 is really not having much so far.

 

[Ironfan72]

The only one that is not coming back for certain is Terrance Howard, as for the rest as far as everyone knows its all rumors as far as their participation in the film and all have on going negotiations with Marvel.
Emily Blunt may not be able to do the film, not for the lack of wanting to, but scheduling issues with Fox studios, as for Sam Jackson no one said they weren't still talking about him being in the film and Rourke seems to indicate according the people reporting that he may yet be in the film as well.
If they aren't no real lose, as I've said they still have a solid core cast with Robert Downey, jr., Gwyneth Paltrow, Don Cheadle and Sam Jackson and they are talking with Scarlett Johansson, so right now that is a great cast.

 

[marcvader]

Wow Jackson, Howard, Rourke, Blunt the cast is dropping like flies. Iron Man 2 is really not having much so far.

You do realize that the only cast member you have listed there that is not coming back is Howard. As far as Jackson returning to reprise Fury which he cameo'd in for 30 seconds is still an option to play him again. Bulletin, the other two were never part of the cast.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I liked how IM was handled and as long as the director and his team are allowed to do the same thing they did in the first movie I'm sure the sequel will come out ok.

Like build up an ensemble of talented, respected actors?

 

[TheVileOne]

Don Cheadle isn't a talented, respected actor?

Gwyneth Paltrow?

Paul Bettany?

 

[TheVileOne]

Wow Jackson, Howard, Rourke, Blunt the cast is dropping like flies. Iron Man 2 is really not having much so far.

This is the sort of nonsense I'm talking about.

Blunt was never cast, she was just rumored.

Jackson hasn't left the cast either.

So unless you have actual facts, I'm flushing negative NONSENSE like this down the toilet where it belongs.

 

[marcvader]

Right?! I'm starting to think that all this insider info we get is not worth having as there are just too many people that freak out waaaayyy too much over these things.

 

[kedrell]

I'm at the point where I say, "Call me when it's confimed, otherwise I don't care." The rumor mill can be so annoying sometimes.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Don Cheadle isn't a talented, respected actor?

Gwyneth Paltrow?

Paul Bettany?

I was responding to the poster's assertion that he doesn't see the need for known actors AT ALL in films like this.

I don't think it's the end of the world that Rourke won't be in the film. We still have Sam Rockwell in the villain stakes, after all. But it's still a disappointment, as Rourke is a great actor who could have added to the ensemble. And I just find it funny that the same people tripping over themselves to praise Marvel's genius are quick to do a 180 and say "I don't give a crap about Rourke leaving! Good riddance! Never liked him anyway!" as soon as he says he's not doing the project. Like, have your own opinion, instead of just following whatever stance makes Marvel look best.

 

[TheVileOne]

It's funny because several years ago this wouldn't be a disappointment now that everyone's kissing Rourke's ass because of Marv and The Wrestler.

In 2006, Rourke appeared in ALEX RIDER. I blame that on your country Keyser.

And no one's doing as you say either Keyser. you are grossly exaggerating it. There were some rumors that Rourke might be in it, and he's recently quoted as saying he doesn't think he's going to do it.

Why does that need to turn into an argument for MARVEL SUCKS THEY ARE LOSING ALL THE GREAT ACTORS!!!

This is worse markdom than TNA apologists.

 

[Keyser Soze]

It's funny because several years ago this wouldn't be a disappointment now that everyone's kissing Rourke's ass because of Marv and The Wrestler.

In 2006, Rourke appeared in ALEX RIDER. I blame that on your country Keyser.

And no one's doing as you say either Keyser. you are grossly exaggerating it. There were some rumors that Rourke might be in it, and he's recently quoted as saying he doesn't think he's going to do it.

Why does that need to turn into an argument for MARVEL SUCKS THEY ARE LOSING ALL THE GREAT ACTORS!!!

This is worse markdom than TNA apologists.

It's funny, because if anything, I'd say that hear about Terrence Howard leaving over money issues, Samuel L Jackson possibly leaving over money issues, and Mickey Rourke not doing the film over money issues, and then coming to the conclusion that there is no shortcoming whatsoever on Marvel's part on any of these instances and it's all just isolated incidents of the actors being in the wrong/not being worth the investment... is what would qualify as "markdom" or being an "apologist".

I've not said Marvel sucks. I don't think Rourke's departure - or any of the others so far - are going to ruin the film. I'm very much looking forward to Iron Man 2. But while I wish Marvel the best for this and their other projects, and want them to turn out well, I'm not just going to bury my head in the sand and refuse to acknowledge even the possibility that they've made a wrong move here, or not invested enough there.

 

[Saint]

I won't apologize for thinking that 40% of the Batman fanbase are hateful, insecure people

You are a very silly person.

 

[Saint]

It's funny, because if anything, I'd say that hear about Terrence Howard leaving over money issues, Samuel L Jackson possibly leaving over money issues, and Mickey Rourke not doing the film over money issues, and then coming to the conclusion that there is no shortcoming whatsoever on Marvel's part on any of these instances and it's all just isolated incidents of the actors being in the wrong/not being worth the investment... is what would qualify as "markdom" or being an "apologist".

I am inclined to agree. This has become a pattern, and I don't think it's unreasonable for people to start thinking that Marvel's approach to this film may be... less than ideal.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Don Cheadle isn't a talented, respected actor?

Gwyneth Paltrow?

Paul Bettany?

I'd even go as far as to say Downey.

 

[Chris Wallace]

You are a very silly person.

Not at all.

 

[TheVileOne]

It's funny, because if anything, I'd say that hear about Terrence Howard leaving over money issues, Samuel L Jackson possibly leaving over money issues, and Mickey Rourke not doing the film over money issues, and then coming to the conclusion that there is no shortcoming whatsoever on Marvel's part on any of these instances and it's all just isolated incidents of the actors being in the wrong/not being worth the investment... is what would qualify as "markdom" or being an "apologist".

You are talking about money issues, but there were other reports that Favreau wasn't happy with Howard's performance and that he was very difficult on set.

Also, Rourke never brought up money issues. There was a rumor he got what some fans perceived as a low offer. Wow, one unfounded rumor.

Jackson hasn't left last time I checked, so if you have something conclusive other than internet chat, keep on waving the flag.

I've not said Marvel sucks. I don't think Rourke's departure - or any of the others so far - are going to ruin the film. I'm very much looking forward to Iron Man 2. But while I wish Marvel the best for this and their other projects, and want them to turn out well, I'm not just going to bury my head in the sand and refuse to acknowledge even the possibility that they've made a wrong move here, or not invested enough there.

I'm not doing that either. But I'm also not going to do what people like you are doing because of unfounded rumors and nonsense. Do you know how often we hear about actors being looked at for this or that movie. Some actors turn down roles. Big time actors. And it doesn't always kill movies.

Because of this or the other, people are connecting everything to because oh Marvel is being cheap and not paying their actors enough.

I'm sorry guys but Mickey Rourke is NOT a big draw. People wouldn't go to see Iron Man because of Rourke. Rourke is a prolific performer who has had a lot of ups and down over the years and not long ago he was in **** like that Rodman/Van Damme action movie and the GET CARTER remake. He's an actor who is rebuilding himself, so that doesn't mean he should be paid automatically in 7-8 figures.

Emily Blunt is a good actress. But she was only rumored for a supporting role. And then it was rumored to be Scarlett Johannson who has an even higher profile and is better established. OK. But Blunt apparently was committed to a different movie, but who really knows what the deal actually was? This is not something to commit seppuku over.