Iron Man 2 The Official Whiplash Thread

[Endeavor]

Like build up an ensemble of talented, respected actors?

No
the writing, characterization and quality of the acting.

There are very good actors who are completely unknown. The status of the ones in IM had no effect whatsover on me, if they had been nobodys and given the same performance i would have been equaly satisfied.

 

[Saint]

Not at all.

Oh, he's not silly? Then he has data to backing up his numbers? He must, because the only way for the statement "40% of Batfans are hateful people" to not be silly would be for the person making the claim to have verifiable data demonstrating that 40% of Batfans are, in fact, hateful people, data demonstrating that non-Batfans are hateful in a lowe percentage, and, of course, data demonstrating that their Batfanism is, in fact, what makes them hateful. There is probably other necessary data, also. Since we both know he does not have it, then yes, silly is the correct word.

Or, more simply: a person who says "This imaginary percentage of people who like a certain character are totally hateful" is being ridiculous. This is misguided at best; complaining that those other fanboys are just so terrible, and pretending that pulling imaginary percentages out of thin air can lend him the veil of legitimacy.

I don't suppose I'll ever understand the frame of mind that suggests the other fanboys are better or worse than your own particular group. I suppose comic book fandom--along with sports fandom--is one of the few arenas where mindless, unfounded tribal hatred is still the norm. Some maturity would be nice.

 

[UltimateJustin]

I was thinking what if they used CGI?

 

[Chewy]

^ CGI to do what?

A few more tidbits on this:

First, a video interview with Rourke:
http://video.reeltalktv.com/player/?id=1027681#videoid=1027681

Also, an EW article about it:

When it comes to Mickey Rourke, it looks like you can't always take what he says at face value. Yesterday, New York Magazine reported that in a conversation at New York's Fashion Week, Rourke explained that he is no longer doing Iron Man 2. But it turns out that's not necessarily the case. The Oscar-nominated star of The Wrestler, who starts his gig on Sylvester Stallone's testosterone-fueled The Expendables in two weeks, could still play a Russian baddie in the Iron Man sequel, as sources tell EW that the offer still stands, though nothing's yet being negotiated.

In other Expendables news, EW has learned that Ben Kingsley will not be part of the actioner, but Eric Roberts will. Whether the two have swapped parts remains unclear. Finally, the rumor that Arnold Schwarzenegger is joining the movie seems to be false -- though one source says, "You never know."

SOURCE

 

[roach]

so basicly nobody knows nothing

 

[Chewy]

Yep

 

[roach]

and people get paid to tell us that nobody knows nothing....im in the wrong profession

 

[Chewy]

One of you Brits needs to watch/TiVo/something Jonathan Ross tomorrow night.... he's got Rourke on and hopefully we can get to the bottom of all of this nonsense

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

^^

yes please

 

[TheVileOne]

Well there you go.

Not but a few hours ago people were TRASHING Marvel because Rourke said "I don't think we're going to do Iron Man 2."

Keyser Soze, haters, anybody? Your response?

Maybe some people should exercise restraint from nonsense before all the facts are clear.

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

Well there you go.

Not but a few hours ago people were TRASHING Marvel because Rourke said "I don't think we're going to do Iron Man 2."

Keyser Soze, haters, anybody? Your response?

Maybe some people should exercise restraint from nonsense before all the facts are clear.

i wasnt trashing marvel...just..bewildered...i've been thinking and it sounds kinda dumb..but what if all of these casting problems are just some elaborate ways to keep im2 top secret?

 

[WillardNation]

^^^wouldn't doubt it

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You are a very silly person.

Oh, I'm not going to argue with you too. your disagreement is noted.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Well there you go.

Not but a few hours ago people were TRASHING Marvel because Rourke said "I don't think we're going to do Iron Man 2."

Keyser Soze, haters, anybody? Your response?

Maybe some people should exercise restraint from nonsense before all the facts are clear.

LOL, no.... when it seemed like Rourke wasn't involved in a project, some of us dared to say "Aw, that's a shame, it would have been really cool to see Rourke in the movie and add to the ensemble..." and you pounced on us screaming "HOW DARE YOU HATE ON MARVEL NO ONE CARES ABOUT ROURKE MARVEL CAN DO NO WRONG DAMN YOU HATERS BLALALALALALALALALALA!"

And when I saw that you seem ill-equipped to handle even the most gentle, constructive criticism of Marvel Studios, I backed out of the argument with a compromise of "We all want the best for Iron Man 2". But evidently, like in any context it would seem, you're not content unless you've set up some extreme "us VS them" divide, even if it only exists in your own head.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

The next week maybe official words about the cast.

 

[Chris Wallace]

I'm at the point where I say, "Call me when it's confimed, otherwise I don't care." The rumor mill can be so annoying sometimes.

I agree.

 

[FaT_tONle]

LOL, no.... when it seemed like Rourke wasn't involved in a project, some of us dared to say "Aw, that's a shame, it would have been really cool to see Rourke in the movie and add to the ensemble..." and you pounced on us screaming "HOW DARE YOU HATE ON MARVEL NO ONE CARES ABOUT ROURKE MARVEL CAN DO NO WRONG DAMN YOU HATERS BLALALALALALALALALALA!"

And when I saw that you seem ill-equipped to handle even the most gentle, constructive criticism of Marvel Studios, I backed out of the argument with a compromise of "We all want the best for Iron Man 2". But evidently, like in any context it would seem, you're not content unless you've set up some extreme "us VS them" divide, even if it only exists in your own head.

Marvel's casting process for IM2 has been a complete mess thus far. Anyone who can not accept that is just not paying attention or is just so completely biased that it isn't even worth arguing with.

 

[Chris Wallace]

Oh, he's not silly? Then he has data to backing up his numbers? He must, because the only way for the statement "40% of Batfans are hateful people" to not be silly would be for the person making the claim to have verifiable data demonstrating that 40% of Batfans are, in fact, hateful people, data demonstrating that non-Batfans are hateful in a lowe percentage, and, of course, data demonstrating that their Batfanism is, in fact, what makes them hateful. There is probably other necessary data, also. Since we both know he does not have it, then yes, silly is the correct word.

Or, more simply: a person who says "This imaginary percentage of people who like a certain character are totally hateful" is being ridiculous. This is misguided at best; complaining that those other fanboys are just so terrible, and pretending that pulling imaginary percentages out of thin air can lend him the veil of legitimacy.

I don't suppose I'll ever understand the frame of mind that suggests the other fanboys are better or worse than your own particular group. I suppose comic book fandom--along with sports fandom--is one of the few arenas where mindless, unfounded tribal hatred is still the norm. Some maturity would be nice.

The statement is hyperbolic, sure. But not silly. And the frame of mind is based on the fact that when Spider-Man toppled Batman's box office, we weren't beating Bat-fans over the head with it relentlessly. Nor were we excusing Spidey's flaws while blowing Batman's way out of proportion. But it often seems like you can't go to any forum on this board without that happening.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I'm going to wait and see on this. Results will be yielded May next year. The process has seemed whacky, but who knows. I'll wait til we get official announcements and this puppy is shooting.

 

[echostation]

I don't get this... they haven't finished casting or anything as such nor a completed script yet they want to get this movie out by April next year?? Isn't that going to push it a little if not way way too tight? I could be flat wrong but was just wondering...

 

[Spider-Fan]

When are they set to film?

 

[Chewy]

In 8 weeks

 

[SurfDUI]

In 8 weeks

Don't they do principal photography first, is it part of the shoot schedule and where are they filming primarliy this time?

 

[Chewy]

Principal photography begins in 8 weeks. I believe filming will primarily take place on their Raleigh Studios sound stages in Manhattan Beach

 

[SurfDUI]

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