The Old Official Superman Casting Thread

[Dark Knight]

Thats Josh Harnett not Holloway

Hartnett would be better as Hal Jordan, if they stick to him being in his late 20's or early 30's in the film.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

I don't follow. What are discussing? That Smallville should be a movie? Why? Smallville is TV. When did it become OK for tv shows to jump into the big screen? Why can't we keep mediums distinct?

I'm trying to show that Smallville as a series has enough fan power behind it to have a big chance at being a hit if translated to the big screen.

 

[TheBatman1979]

Old people.

LOL, actually I was illustrating that taking numbers from one website to show sales of anything media based like DVD's is futile because DVD's are a world wide market and sold in more places than any one website can show. You'd have to get true sales numbers in order to show your point.

 

[NotFadeAway]

Random thought. I would be interested to see Alexander Skarsgård, Eric from True Blood, as Metallo.

 

[NeoRanger]

I'm trying to show that Smallville as a series has enough fan power behind it to have a big chance at being a hit if translated to the big screen.

But it doesn't. Any movie and especially a theatrical release aims at good ticket sales. A film that has spent a respectable amount of money to be made, as any Superman-related film will, aims not just at making profit, but at blowing audiences away. Smallville has a dedicated fanbase, good for them, but they are but a fraction of the general audience. The other Smallville target audience is teenagers who have nothing better to do on a Thursday night and might tune in. All that, disregarding completely the huge possibility that the movie will suck and will end up with a tons of bad press and/or bad word-to-mouth. To put it simply, outside of this dedicated fanbase, who would pay ten bucks (or however it is in your part of the world) to see the same thing they've been seeing for eight years?

If there were ever to be a Smallville movie, it would be DTV and wouldn't escape the boundaries of the TV show more than just a little.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

I'm not taking the numbers from any random site. We're talking about Amazon.com. Look at this.

Nothing futile about it. It reflects a huge chunk of DVD sales out there. Do you have a website to present, TheBatman1979? I'd be willing to take a look.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

But it doesn't. Any movie and especially a theatrical release aims at good ticket sales. A film that has spent a respectable amount of money to be made, as any Superman-related film will, aims not just at making profit, but at blowing audiences away. Smallville has a dedicated fanbase, good for them, but they are but a fraction of the general audience. The other Smallville target audience is teenagers who have nothing better to do on a Thursday night and might tune in. All that, disregarding completely the huge possibility that the movie will suck and will end up with a tons of bad press and/or bad word-to-mouth. To put it simply, outside of this dedicated fanbase, who would pay ten bucks (or however it is in your part of the world) to see the same thing they've been seeing for eight years?

If there were ever to be a Smallville movie, it would be DTV and wouldn't escape the boundaries of the TV show more than just a little.

It'd pull in Smallville fans, and if Welling was in the suit, with a classic Superman story going on, it'd pull in Superman fans. Two birds with one stone. Why didn't you realize that?

 

[TheBatman1979]

I'm not taking the numbers from any random site. We're talking about Amazon.com. Look at this.

Nothing futile about it. It reflects a huge chunk of DVD sales out there. Do you have a website to present, TheBatman1979? I'd be willing to take a look.

I wish I did, I've been looking for a website that tracks true sales numbers but to be honest without contact the production company directly there's probably no other way to get it.

By the way, Amazon does do great business. But your talking about site who sells everything from appliances to dvds around the world and allows auctions and person to person sales as well. 14 billion dolalrs in gross revenue is a great number. But it still does account for the DVD sales of Smallville or Superman Returns from huge retail chains lke Target, Walmart, Best Buy and Circut City.

 

[Superark]

I'll be so happy when they put out another Superman film and it doesn't have the Smallville actors in it. Then maybe these debates about Smallville on-screen can finally end.

 

[Double Down]

But it doesn't. Any movie and especially a theatrical release aims at good ticket sales. A film that has spent a respectable amount of money to be made, as any Superman-related film will, aims not just at making profit, but at blowing audiences away. Smallville has a dedicated fanbase, good for them, but they are but a fraction of the general audience. The other Smallville target audience is teenagers who have nothing better to do on a Thursday night and might tune in. All that, disregarding completely the huge possibility that the movie will suck and will end up with a tons of bad press and/or bad word-to-mouth. To put it simply, outside of this dedicated fanbase, who would pay ten bucks (or however it is in your part of the world) to see the same thing they've been seeing for eight years?

If there were ever to be a Smallville movie, it would be DTV and wouldn't escape the boundaries of the TV show more than just a little.

And further, who would pay $10 to watch what they have not been watching for free for eight years?

 

[Brian Braddock]

I'll be so happy when they put out another Superman film and it doesn't have the Smallville actors in it. Then maybe these debates about Smallville on-screen can finally end.

C'mon; You and I both now that will never happen.

And further, who would pay to $10 to watch what they have not been watching for free for eight years?

Heh.

 

[NeoRanger]

It'd pull in Smallville fans, and if Welling was in the suit, with a classic Superman story going on, it'd pull in Superman fans. Two birds with one stone. Why didn't you realize that?

I'm a Superman fan and it sure as hell wouldn't pull me in. I'm not sure I'd even watch the DVD, let alone drag someone in the theater to watch that thing with me. If nothing else, there is a limit to how much mocking I can take from friends.

And further, who would pay to $10 to watch what they have not been watching for free for eight years?

Touché.

 

[Superark]

C'mon; You and I both now that will never happen.



Heh.

Lol true true. But I can hope can't I?

 

[Double Down]

If WB/DC is trying to set up a shared universe (such as Marvel is doing), with the ultimate goal being a Justice League movie, then no way would they transition Smallville to the big screen. That would mean the Smallville world is the same universe as the DC world. That won't happen.

 

[solidsnake86]

I'm not taking the numbers from any random site. We're talking about Amazon.com. Look at this.

Nothing futile about it. It reflects a huge chunk of DVD sales out there. Do you have a website to present, TheBatman1979? I'd be willing to take a look.

Honestly superman prime, SR used the same idea and thought about all the STM fans and look where that got people. Superman is based on a comic book character and frankly smallville has been horrible in treating the source material with any respect. Given they do some things good a lot has been bad. Superman needs a reboot, using smallville is riskier than starting over and after SR they don't have the luxury of taking risks.

 

[Showtime]

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/brandon-routh-is-an-fbi-man-209307/

Hard at work on the set of his latest movie, “Superman” star Brandon Routh was spotted in costume while prepping to film scenes for “Unthinkable” on Tuesday (November 25).

Joined on-set by co-star Samuel L. Jackson, Routh was seen walking around the Los Angeles set with a gun and donning a flack jacket for his role as an FBI agent, while Jackson calmly whistled in between takes.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Awesome;

Nice to see Brandon getting some seemingly good roles.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

Honestly superman prime, SR used the same idea and thought about all the STM fans and look where that got people.

I think it failed for other reasons. The characterization of Superman, for instance. Whether they say it's based on the Donnerverse, or true to a Superman comic, or whatever... the fact is, Superman was doing some pretty out of character stuff in there. That's been covered many times on this forum, though. I think if they stuck true to the character, they could've had a great "vague sequel" to the first Superman films.

Superman is based on a comic book character and frankly smallville has been horrible in treating the source material with any respect. Given they do some things good a lot has been bad. Superman needs a reboot, using smallville is riskier than starting over and after SR they don't have the luxury of taking risks.

The Smallville writers are definitely trying to do their own things. Comparable to Batman Begins, I think they're sticking true to the spirit of the character and his setting, while adding their own creative spin on things. That can become problematic at times, but the way they've handled it has been fine, IMO.

 

[That-Guy]

You know, I wish Smallville had never come into existance, and I speak as someone who was a fan of the show for a few seasons back at the beginning.

The thing is, if I could have just written off Smallville like I have so many other TV shows once the writing goes sour, that would have been fine. But thanks to the annoying and consistent rantings on these boards by people who dream of one day seeing Smallville: The Movie, I've come to literally HATE the show to the point where I begin cussing at my TV whenever I see it advertised. I'm so sick of this stupid debate. And the sad fact is, no matter WHAT happens with Superman, people will still be griping if Tom Welling doesn't play him on the big screen. They'll say how much better he would have been. Hell, you could literally CLONE Christopher Reeve and Smallville fans would still say Welling would have been better.

 

[batman44]

I'm very interested in seeing Routh in the role of the FBI agent in Unthinkable, just to see how much he has improved as an actor.

 

[BH/HHH]

I think it failed for other reasons. The characterization of Superman, for instance. Whether they say it's based on the Donnerverse, or true to a Superman comic, or whatever... the fact is, Superman was doing some pretty out of character stuff in there. That's been covered many times on this forum, though. I think if they stuck true to the character, they could've had a great "vague sequel" to the first Superman films.



The Smallville writers are definitely trying to do their own things. Comparable to Batman Begins, I think they're sticking true to the spirit of the character and his setting, while adding their own creative spin on things. That can become problematic at times, but the way they've handled it has been fine, IMO.

I agree

 

[Superark]

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/brandon-routh-is-an-fbi-man-209307/

Glad to see he is getting some more work. Hope he has a ton of success!

Man looking at the picture I can't help but think that guy oozes of Superman.

 

[Superark]

I'm very interested in seeing Routh in the role of the FBI agent in Unthinkable, just to see how much he has improved as an actor.

Though his role was very small and he did not have a lot of screen time, I thought he did a really good job in Zac and Miri. He was very funny and showed good charisma.

In fact he was just about the only thing I liked in Zac and Miri. That movies was pretty bad!

 

[Double Down]

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/brandon-routh-is-an-fbi-man-209307/

Hard at work on the set of his latest movie, “Superman” star Brandon Routh was spotted in costume while prepping to film scenes for “Unthinkable” on Tuesday (November 25).

Joined on-set by co-star Samuel L. Jackson, Routh was seen walking around the Los Angeles set with a gun and donning a flack jacket for his role as an FBI agent, while Jackson calmly whistled in between takes.

There are 12 more pics from the set here:
http://justjared.buzznet.com/2008/11/26/brandon-routh-unthinkable-movie/
11 of them are of Brandon Routh. Here are two:

 

[batman44]

Though his role was very small and he did not have a lot of screen time, I thought he did a really good job in Zac and Miri. He was very funny and showed good charisma.

In fact he was just about the only thing I liked in Zac and Miri. That movies was pretty bad!

I haven't seen Zack and Miri (don't really have a desire to), but I keep hearing good things about Routh in it and you mentioning him having good charisma gives me hope. One thing I thought Routh lacked as Superman was charisma, but if he can bring that charisma and show a better range of emotion in the reboot...color me happy.

Nice pics btw Doubledown.