The Resident Evil Thread - Part 3

[Havok83]

I dont recall seeing them dismiss that in the original article

 

[zenith16]

Not really saying that ether, but it's that it's them not still realizing some how on what people want from the franchise which is to keep it's uniqueness and that is to keep the horror but make it contemporary with out over shadowing. keep the balance.


They say the want same age group as they had when they first released it to the public.

But what I do see them admitting to is that they will have the characters kill the bio hazards with fashion now . Well , Ok maybe "hair pray" will work, I can see something worked out for that. (As a cure) for a change rather then guns. but the rest like beating them down with my brand new jacket. lol that what the kids these days are into?

I want to see the people they are studying and in contact with often to have picked that up from.

 

[Iceman]

I'm 35 and was a hardcore fan during the time of RE 1 & 2 especially, but also 3. They were top games for their time. I never owned a Gamecube so missed out on 4 and even now haven't played it fully (the controls on the 360 port are terrible). I also like 5 but it's not as high on the list relative to other games of its time. And parts of the gameplay should have been improved. It's not a great shooter but I enjoy the underlying story. 6 I have yet to finish as I lost my co-op partner. It wasn't as bad as I'd heard up to the point I got to but the quicktime events really annoyed me.

I don't mind the series evolving as the original style gameplay is too stiff compared to modern games but the survival horror element needs to make a comeback even if they want to include action parts as well. Wandering around a creepy mansion even without encountering an enemy for long sections was always tense in RE as the threat was everpresent. Do both survival horror and action in separate chapters if necessary but bring the gameplay up to the standards of other shooters for the action parts and take out difficult failable quicktime events, especially during cut scenes that I want to be able to watch without distraction.

 

[zenith16]

It evolving is fine the problem is the fact that they aren't keeping any of the elements of what made it good in Re4 and that was the balance of horror and action. like from when they did some thing right with people making sure every which way possible and throwing it in their face is the issue. they just settled for one and no one know who the hell they are listening too over there but that person or people are really screwing them over. oh what ever if they haven't picked up anything from the last of us then they are fully/ truly a lost cause.


I hope this isn't their plan for the Reboot. ( lol) oh well time to jump ship before that.

 

[Havok83]

I'm 35 and was a hardcore fan during the time of RE 1 & 2 especially, but also 3. They were top games for their time. I never owned a Gamecube so missed out on 4 and even now haven't played it fully (the controls on the 360 port are terrible). I also like 5 but it's not as high on the list relative to other games of its time. And parts of the gameplay should have been improved. It's not a great shooter but I enjoy the underlying story. 6 I have yet to finish as I lost my co-op partner. It wasn't as bad as I'd heard up to the point I got to but the quicktime events really annoyed me.

I don't mind the series evolving as the original style gameplay is too stiff compared to modern games but the survival horror element needs to make a comeback even if they want to include action parts as well. Wandering around a creepy mansion even without encountering an enemy for long sections was always tense in RE as the threat was everpresent. Do both survival horror and action in separate chapters if necessary but bring the gameplay up to the standards of other shooters for the action parts and take out difficult failable quicktime events, especially during cut scenes that I want to be able to watch without distraction.

they really need to just reboot the entire series and scrap any idea of a RE7. The series is just a convoluted mess now, story and gameplay wise. It doesnt know what it wants to be and seems to muddied up at this point to salvage. Just start over with a new continuity and go back to basics. If its just a continuation of RE6 adapted to next gen, then I see no hope for the series for the forseeabel future

 

[zenith16]

As I said what if this is their plan for the reboot. what then? The real problem is them.

 

[Benstamania]

Yup, I'm all for them starting over COMPLETELY... Put us back at the mansion and retell the story. Add things if they want that could pop up later but I swear if they gave us a next gen version of the GameCube's REmake only with some changes (again.. Reboot..) I'd be cool with that.

I'd say give us completely different characters but I honestly have no issue with Chris, Jill, Leon,Claire, Rebecca and everyone else. Just go back to what made the series so successful to begin with..

 

[Iceman]

they really need to just reboot the entire series and scrap any idea of a RE7. The series is just a convoluted mess now, story and gameplay wise. It doesnt know what it wants to be and seems to muddied up at this point to salvage. Just start over with a new continuity and go back to basics. If its just a continuation of RE6 adapted to next gen, then I see no hope for the series for the forseeabel future

It would probably be for the best but it's a shame to lose the classic parts of the history. When done right this is exactly what I like from franchise games, films and book series. When you get to late entries they have usually built up a really rich history with tonnes of great interconnecting characters and stories. Shame that RE has lost its way and that a reboot might have become necessary.

 

[zenith16]

Yup, I'm all for them starting over COMPLETELY... Put us back at the mansion and retell the story. Add things if they want that could pop up later but I swear if they gave us a next gen version of the GameCube's REmake only with some changes (again.. Reboot..) I'd be cool with that.

I'd say give us completely different characters but I honestly have no issue with Chris, Jill, Leon,Claire, Rebecca and everyone else. Just go back to what made the series so successful to begin with..

With the people they have in charge of the franchise as it is and they are saying crazy idea's for it currently even if you reboot it they still want those crazy idea's that the real problem at all of this right now. Pretending the real issue at hand will be solved by a reboot, when the issue is the people in charge of it currently don't care or want to do the horror any more and have kept on saying this with every excuse in an article since what took place at game trailers after the launch of 6, so they don't have to do it as they claim. Well.... I'm just gonna let things happen. But the real problem is the "reluctant people in charge" period.

Keeping the series as it is or rebooting, it will still have the people that are making the poor chose's that's the problem at hand and they will be a problem for the reboot if it happens too.


That's what needs to be dealt with. what resident evil division at capcom needs is a restructuring. other wise not even the reboot will be what we'd like/want it to be.

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well, I guess I stand corrected. I didn't realize so many of you were in your 30s.

As far as a reboot. I don't know, I wouldn't be up for it all that much. I feel that's far too much grasping at nostalgia for the sake of it. The better alternative for me is if they try to find a bridge between the two styles, something akin to the way the original Dead Space played. Keep the overall pacing slow, but when action happens, it really happens. Something like that.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

They need to try something like 4 again, where it totally just cast off almost all the trappings of the T-virus/Umbrella plotline and went and did its own thing.

 

[Havok83]

4 should have been a spinoff or unnumbered entry like Code Veronica (which IMO, should have been called RE 4)

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

But isn't that point? We need to pull away from the entire Umbrella/T-Virus/Wesker plotline because by this point its completely and totally played out? I'm with Tron that rebooting the series would just be a grasp for nostalgia at best, so the only way I can see that the RE moves forward under its own two feet is if it comes up with and pursues something original.

 

[zenith16]

But isn't that point? We need to pull away from the entire Umbrella/T-Virus/Wesker plotline because by this point its completely and totally played out? I'm with Tron that rebooting the series would just be a grasp for nostalgia at best, so the only way I can see that the RE moves forward under its own two feet is if it comes up with and pursues something original.

That and I some how see the same reaction with kid's of today that was shown in back to the future 2 when Marty Mcfly showed those kid's how to play an arcade machine and they didn't like the game play.

some how that will reinforce the people in charge of the Res franchise currently not have horror in it, since it doesn't register properly what should be kept.


I really can't believe they can't pick up they should have kept the formula of what was done in Re4 from the jump. when it was Explicitly said in both video and articles and I'm the fanbase made clear them selves. Seriously rock steady and others younger then them as far publishers/ studios history goes all know to keep their formula of what worked for their franchise's. And the fact there are people with video's and other wise in written form from the time of when it was launched have stated it was the balance of both horror and action that made it a success. But as soon as 5 happened they chose drop that part(half of the formula) during that installment production and they never came up with good Explanation as to why it was dropped during (it's 5 where the ball was dropped) that.


And then they start claiming they know what made the franchise work with this.

Capcom Explains Resident Evil's Success

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bahhhhh they claim they under stand what made it a success, but in reality every other time they talk it's obvious they don't.

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[InnerWarrior]

I jumped on the Resident Evil fanwagon after I played Resident Evil 5. I thought it was an awesome game and a great co-op game. After that I went back and played the older games. And I really liked 6, it reminded me of Sonic Adventure in the way the storylines cross over and such. I also liked that each campaign was like a different game. The Jake campaign I liked particularly more due to it's similarities to a Bond film. haha Sometimes I wonder how different things would be if Devil May Cry ended up being a part of the Resident Evil series as originally intended.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I jumped on the Resident Evil fanwagon after I played Resident Evil 5. I thought it was an awesome game and a great co-op game. After that I went back and played the older games. And I really liked 6, it reminded me of Sonic Adventure in the way the storylines cross over and such. I also liked that each campaign was like a different game. The Jake campaign I liked particularly more due to it's similarities to a Bond film. haha Sometimes I wonder how different things would be if Devil May Cry ended up being a part of the Resident Evil series as originally intended.

If you're new to the series you deff need to get a hold of that REmake for the GameCube. High point of the franchise.

 

[InnerWarrior]

Good thing I have a Wii! haha Thanks for the heads up!

 

[Tron Bonne]

If you liked RE5, you owe yourself playing RE4 in some way. It's better in just about every way possible.

 

[Benstamania]

RE4 is where I fell off the fanwagon.

Hard.

 

[Upset Spideyfan]

You get attacked by a giant statue shortly before getting thrown on a train cart all Temple of Doom style against a guy with a chainsaw.

RE4 was amazing.

But really they could have just done a less connected series of people encountering various biological horrors, with Wesker and his behind the shadows organization as a connective tissue. RE5 aside from being a rote copy of its predecessor with co-op leaned waaaay too hard on the mythology of the series and got all self-serious after a gloriously bonkers RE4.

 

[Havok83]

RE4 is where I fell off the fanwagon.

Hard.

its funny and ironic how the game that was so critically acclaimed ended up inspiring the future of the franchise and not in a good way, taking it downhill since. I think RE4 really could have been a standalone title or a new IP. Everything about it was so new and it was very removed from its RE roots that they could have tweaked things a bit to make it the start of a new unrelated franchise. Like a spiritual successor of sorts

 

[The Hill]

Its like the Devil May Cry situation only still used the idea. Capcom: So awesome, they make hits by accedent...I long for those days.

 

[Iceman]

But isn't that point? We need to pull away from the entire Umbrella/T-Virus/Wesker plotline because by this point its completely and totally played out? I'm with Tron that rebooting the series would just be a grasp for nostalgia at best, so the only way I can see that the RE moves forward under its own two feet is if it comes up with and pursues something original.

They need probably 2 full games with no Wesker appearance and good new villains and a new non-Umbrella storyline. Keep the history but go in a new direction. Starting again wouldn't excite me anywhere near as much as getting back on track.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

They need probably 2 full games with no Wesker appearance and good new villains and a new non-Umbrella storyline. Keep the history but go in a new direction. Starting again wouldn't excite me anywhere near as much as getting back on track.

I honestly don't care what they do, reboot, don't reboot, just give me a damn game thats similar to the first few. Bring back survival horror, not this terror action nonsense.

If i HAD to pick, Id want them to just REmake the REmake again. Then REmake RE2, then after that REmake RE3, then REmake RE:CV, then REmake RE: Outbreak.

 

[Iceman]

I honestly don't care what they do, reboot, don't reboot, just give me a damn game thats similar to the first few. Bring back survival horror, not this terror action nonsense.

If i HAD to pick, Id want them to just REmake the REmake again. Then REmake RE2, then after that REmake RE3, then REmake RE:CV, then REmake RE: Outbreak.

Haha, easy money there as some of those games are quite old, the younger generation might not have played them at all. I'd definitely get them. One thing about survival horror, would you be cool them taking out co-op? I think co-op lends better to action while solo fits better with survival horror.