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It's been confirmed! Eddie will be reunited with the Symbiote once more!

http://www.newsarama.com/NYCC/2007/Marvel/cup_o_joe.html

(scroll down, it's in there somewhere)

I can't wait for this. Gargan as Venom!? What was Millar thinking!? He killed two characters with one stone.

I hope Eddie puts the smack down on Gargan's sorry ass.

Bring it!!! :word:
 
Yea but once we get Brock back as Venom, he better bring in some good stories. I havent read a good Venom story since the very early 90s.
 
If the timing is right, we might have Black Spidey VS Venom, just like the first time!
 
It's been confirmed! Eddie will be reunited with the Symbiote once more!

http://www.newsarama.com/NYCC/2007/Marvel/cup_o_joe.html

(scroll down, it's in there somewhere)

Quesada confirmed this would happen yonks ago.

I can't wait for this.

I don’t see why it’s anything to get particularly excited about.
Everybody knows Venom/Brock sucks.

Gargan as Venom!? What was Millar thinking!? He killed two characters with one stone.

He was doing something interesting w/ the character for the first time in about 15 years.
Something that was actually intended to happen to Venom shortly after his inception.

If the timing is right, we might have Black Spidey VS Venom, just like the first time!

That did happen a second time once already.
In ASM Vol 2 #19, that’s Erik Larsen badass!

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first of all: hello everybody

I'm quite happy with Brock becoming Venom again, but I just hope they'll use him less often but with better storylines than in the nineties. Let's hope it's not just a stunt to tie with the release of Spider-man 3 ( damn I don't even believe in what I just said :csad: ...) and that he'll come back 100% badass.

But I must say that I really liked MacGargan as Venom, it was one way to make Venom a real villain once again. In Thunderbolts 111, I enjoyed that Moonstone had to restrain Venom from killing Jack Flag, it made him that powerhouse I liked to see in the Venom-Brock, but the bulk-up "Hulk style" was to much, but it's just my opinion.


(P.S: sorry for my bad english)
 
Not everyone thinks Brock as venom sucks ass, don't throw your opinion out there as if it's universally accepted.:whatever:
 
Why I feel that if Eddie returns as Venom, he will look like the movie version?
 
Quesada confirmed this would happen yonks ago.

Really? I thought it was just rumor. Until now.

Dangerous said:
I don’t see why it’s anything to get particularly excited about.
Everybody knows Venom/Brock sucks.

Well that's your opinion. And even if I were to agree with it,
isn't the thought of seeing if someone else can do something interesting with Brock, anything to be excited about?

Dangerous said:
He was doing something interesting w/ the character for the first time in about 15 years.
Something that was actually intended to happen to Venom shortly after his inception.

Now, while i'm aware that the initial concept for Venom was to have the Symbiote go from host to host. That concept was never followed through with. So in my opinion, for Millar to screw with an established character- no, two characters (upsetting the Gargan/Scorpion fans at the same time!) was just a bad idea.

You want to read an interesting Brock/Venom story from the last 15 years? Try Paul Jenkin's first arc in his Spectacular title. His "Hunger" story was exactly what the character had needed. At the end of it, Spider-man had condemed a dying Brock to a unwanted existance with a reluctant Symbiote. Turning Venom into the very personifaction of hatred and self-loathing. Renewing the character's motivation for hating Spidey in the process.

Now that was an interesting place for Venom to be in.
 
that souns good that waY the REAL anti spidey will cause ol'droolboy to "make way for the SCORPION"
 
Yeah, I asked Quesada this myself at the Monda Marvel Q&A Panel at Wizard World last year, and he confirmed it.
 
Nooooooooooooooo! Why, God? why?? Ahhhhhhhhh!

Now that that's done, I really miss Carnage.:csad: He's a cold blooded killer. The type of character I would love to right(and write.:cwink:).
 
AWESOME!!!!!

The 616 Spider-Man comics will finally be worth getting into again, I can't wait! Best news i've heard in awhile, seriousily.
 
And they better keep the uber clone symbiote stuff to a minimum now. Now huge venom. Just brock with more muscle.
 
Really? I thought it was just rumor. Until now.

As Hyper Venom noted, it has been known for a while.

Well that's your opinion. And even if I were to agree with it,
isn't the thought of seeing if someone else can do something interesting with Brock, anything to be excited about?

For many fans no doubt it is.
But not for those who understand why Venom/Brock does not warrant nor validate ever being resurrected. Basically the character is flawed in the context of a recurring villain, and I can’t be bothered to dissect why for the hundredth time.
If it makes some fans happy, well, good for them.

Now, while i'm aware that the initial concept for Venom was to have the Symbiote go from host to host. That concept was never followed through with.

Yup, and that’s why Venom became totally lame in the 90’s.

So in my opinion, for Millar to screw with an established character- no, two characters (upsetting the Gargan/Scorpion fans at the same time!) was just a bad idea.

Screwing w/ Venom did not count because he was an embarrassment by the time Millar gave Venom a new host, it was the only credible direction for him. As for using Gargan, this did nark many a Scorpion fan, but it’s not like it meant Mac could never go back to his original persona.
It was done to shake Venom up a little since the character had become tryingly stale and the plotlines directionless and contradictory.

You want to read an interesting Brock/Venom story from the last 15 years? Try Paul Jenkin's first arc in his Spectacular title. His "Hunger" story was exactly what the character had needed. At the end of it, Spider-man had condemed a dying Brock to a unwanted existance with a reluctant Symbiote. Turning Venom into the very personifaction of hatred and self-loathing. Renewing the character's motivation for hating Spidey in the process.

Now that was an interesting place for Venom to be in.

Ok, you got me there that arc was interesting…

Too bad that in the follow up Venom arc Millar rubbished the developments of Brock and the symbiote now being inseparable, by having Eddie deciding to auction the alien off.
I think Millar had this idea a long time before he got down to scripting the arc, so any previous storyline that said he was not going to be able to do that would have not factored into his grand scheme.

Although Venom may have had a renewed motivation to hate Spidey by the end of Jenkins arc, ultimately, changing hosts was the more significant step in the direction of credibility.
Rather than have Venom/Brock continue as the gimp that ‘hates’ Spider-man but never actually got round to achieving anything.
 
They need to make Venom less powerful. Maybe if he set off Spider-Man's spider-sense, we'd get some more potential out of him. But as is, he's way too strong not to have accomplished the killings.

I like Venom. But let's make him a shade less omnipotent.
 
They need to make Venom less powerful. Maybe if he set off Spider-Man's spider-sense, we'd get some more potential out of him. But as is, he's way too strong not to have accomplished the killings.

I like Venom. But let's make him a shade less omnipotent.

Thats half of what makes him so lame- he is so powerfull but never got anywhere. The other half of his lameness is attributed to the character not having enough depth to sustain himself after his first four apps.
 
Dangerous. You don't speak for the majority of Spider-Man fans at all dude. Stop trying to put it out there like you are.

Other than that, please, carry on.
 
Dangerous. You don't speak for the majority of Spider-Man fans at all dude. Stop trying to put it out there like you are.

Other than that, please, carry on.

I wasn’t trying to pass off my views as what most the majority of fans think.
Where did you get that one from? :dry:

They are however the reality of the subject.:cwink:
 
i wish i was writin the story.. but....wtv...heres hoping he isnt ill eat your brains blah blah blah. i love you eddie :heart:
 
oh, and im glad someone thought the hunger arc was brilliant.
 
Hopefully Brock will have grown as a person. We dont need to see a rerun of the previous Venom. I thought the HUNGER was excellent, although I was more disappointed in Peter's response that time around. A stupid and pointless 'solution'. And at the core of it all the symbiote STILL wants Peter. That one theme has never changed...should be interesting now that Pete's different since the 'Other.' Will he taste better to Veny? *snicker*
 
Why I feel that if Eddie returns as Venom, he will look like the movie version?


I was thinkin the same exact thing....they say they don't do that sorta thing....but wear did Spidey's organic webshooters come from? yes I am aware that it did take a while after the release of the first movie...but what if he had mechanical webshooters in the movie? would he still have organic webbing? hmm....
 
my issue wil be how they will adress the hunger. apparently there is suppsoed to be a child of somesort. and the symbiote seemed to let eddie have control during spidey's marvel knights and that wasnt at all the case in the hunger. ugh to continuity errors. we'll just have to wait and see for what i hope will be a slight revamping.
 

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