I am so looking forward to that. I hope Robin beats the unholy living hell out of the new Captain Boomerang, then Boomerang goes back to the Outsiders and is all like, "I don't wanna talk about it!" when Nightwing asks.
I am so looking forward to that. I hope Robin beats the unholy living hell out of the new Captain Boomerang, then Boomerang goes back to the Outsiders and is all like, "I don't wanna talk about it!" when Nightwing asks.
Same here, especially how Tim has always felt like he wanted to do something about the death of his father. I'm really looking forward to see what exactly drove him to make the decision of going after the new Captain Boomerang, or how he happend to cross paths with him.
It'll be worth to see the surprise on Tim's face, considering he's the son of the man who killed his father. Unless he already knows Boomerang's status during OYL, I hope the two really battle it out.
My thoughts are starting to change. But I need to aks before I buy.
We know that Nightwing OYL hasn't been that good (is part 2 good?) and that affected me to not get Robin OYL because Nightwing's actions are mentioned. But from another way to look at it; ignoring Nightwing OYL completly and with Outsiders OYL in mind, could the references to Nightwing in Robin OYL work for him in Outsiders OYL only?
About that Outsiders being dead thing, they said the the "Outsiders" were dead. Not neccesarily the heros that were in the OUtsiders. As far as the world is concerned the Outsiders disbanded.
But his speed isn't permanent. He has what he calls "speed bursts" which allows him to maintain it for a short period of time, and can use it to throw his boomerangs quicker like in issue #34.
so essentially he throws boomerangs super fast. Ok... maybe realistically he can take robin out thats true enough. I remember batman having a few tricks that he had for wally that he tried on the Johnny quck(csa) a while back... maybe tim will employ the same device. Well I hope he does.
i just read issue #149 and if i'm not mistaken, i'm pretty sure that
cassandra hasn't been kidnapped, but is the new head of the league of assasins and she's trying to fool people into thinking it's someone else. i bet she went a little nutty once she was revived in the lazarus pit and she's now a villain. i think she'd make a pretty kick-ass villain. maybe she'll be one of robin's rogues, even.
i just read issue #149 and if i'm not mistaken, i'm pretty sure that
cassandra hasn't been kidnapped, but is the new head of the league of assasins and she's trying to fool people into thinking it's someone else. i bet she went a little nutty once she was revived in the lazarus pit and she's now a villain. i think she'd make a pretty kick-ass villain. maybe she'll be one of robin's rogues, even.
i just read issue #149 and if i'm not mistaken, i'm pretty sure that
cassandra hasn't been kidnapped, but is the new head of the league of assasins and she's trying to fool people into thinking it's someone else. i bet she went a little nutty once she was revived in the lazarus pit and she's now a villain. i think she'd make a pretty kick-ass villain. maybe she'll be one of robin's rogues, even.
That would suck. A lot. Especially in light of how her series ended.
Anyone else like how Tim floored Shiva in this issue? That was fun.
Also, Gotham's cops, whether they're the most elite units, trained to deal with metahumans, or the lowly unis who cruise around looking for donuts, all suck. It's no wonder the city has so much crime; its cops are all morons. The highly trained specialists who knew they were looking for Robin couldn't tell that the "cop" they found lurking about after all the cops were ordered clear of the building perfectly matched Robin's physical description?? All right, it's a tense situation and they believe they're hunting a killer; I can buy that. But even after they find the real cop knocked out and missing his uniform, still no one puts two and two together and recalls that strangely Robinesque cop who was wandering about where he shouldn't have been? Come on!
Other than that one problem, though, this issue was good. Williams' art grew on me over the course of the issue. He's no Kerschl, but he's good enough.
kiuju2k said:
so essentially he throws boomerangs super fast. Ok... maybe realistically he can take robin out thats true enough. I remember batman having a few tricks that he had for wally that he tried on the Johnny quck(csa) a while back... maybe tim will employ the same device. Well I hope he does.
Also, Gotham's cops, whether they're the most elite units, trained to deal with metahumans, or the lowly unis who cruise around looking for donuts, all suck. It's no wonder the city has so much crime; its cops are all morons. The highly trained specialists who knew they were looking for Robin couldn't tell that the "cop" they found lurking about after all the cops were ordered clear of the building perfectly matched Robin's physical description?? All right, it's a tense situation and they believe they're hunting a killer; I can buy that. But even after they find the real cop knocked out and missing his uniform, still no one puts two and two together and recalls that strangely Robinesque cop who was wandering about where he shouldn't have been? Come on!
I had the same thought when I was looking at the issue, I mean it was pretty obvious Tim was more slender looking then the rest of the officers around him. Not to mention he had the EXACT hair style even with the mask off, aswell as carrying Batgirl's mask with the officers surrounding him like that when he ditched the Robin suit. I agree, that was a bit of a flaw. Other than that, this issue was as good as the beginning of the arc in issue #148.
I also wrote my review of it over at the Bought/Thought thread on the Marvel forum, I putting it in spoilers just incase no one bought the issue yet.
Batman said:
I really loved this issue, and how Tim was using more of his detective skills to his advantage. The whole mystery of where is Cassandra Cain is seriously starting to pick up, we see Lady Shiva visting Tim as she believes someone for the League of Assasins is behind all of it. Toward the end, Tim finds a very small piece of paper which was written in Native American language. After finally decoding it, he finds out it's a ransom note believed to be from the kidnappers of Cassandra and asking him to bring her father David Cain or they'll kill her. Again, the art and action of the issue really grabbed me and the arc has no flaws thus far.
Yes. When Lady Shiva came to confront Tim about Cassandra, she mentioned Nyssa's assassination to him confirming that she was the victim of the explosion that took place overseas.
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