Captain Marvel The Rotten Tomatoes/Critic's Reaction Thread

[jmc]

This film is so not worthy of that score. Part of my issue with Rotten Tomatoes is they don’t have a middle ground option. This film is getting a lot of passing grade fresh scores that it frankly doesn’t deserve.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

This film is so not worthy of that score. Part of my issue with Rotten Tomatoes is they don’t have a middle ground option. This film is getting a lot of passing grade fresh scores that it frankly doesn’t deserve.

The RT score is only the percentage of critics who've viewed the movie in a positive manner (think of it as a yes/no recommendation.) The more accurate gauge of quality has always been the average rating they assign with their Fresh/Rotten recommendation.

 

[Abudefduf]

You've seen it, Abu?

I'm ashamed to admit it took me a few minutes to understand why you called me "Abu". The first thing that came to my mind was Aladdin's monkey.

Yes I have seen the movie and I even already posted my thoughts on it in the review thread. I didn't like it very much but I bet that if I watched it again I would like it more.

The only MCU movie I didn't like better after watching it a second time is Ant-Man and the Wasp. Screw that movie

 

[Iceman]

TOMATOMETER
85%
Average Rating: 7/10
Reviews Count: 175
Fresh: 148
Rotten: 27

We're getting deep into the number of reviews now. I would be happy if it finishes around where it is.

 

[Hammer!]

Yup getting pretty close to being able to concretely say the MCU is on an 80% + streak of ten straight movies. Tremendous achievement!

 

[jmc]

The RT score is only the percentage of critics who've viewed the movie in a positive manner (think of it as a yes/no recommendation.) The more accurate gauge of quality has always been the average rating they assign with their Fresh/Rotten recommendation.

I'm aware. That doesn't change the fact a lot of the positives are giving it a pass.

 

[Hammer!]

I'm aware. That doesn't change the fact a lot of the positives are giving it a pass.

Disney conspiracy?

 

[I Am The Knight]

I'm ashamed to admit it took me a few minutes to understand why you called me "Abu". The first thing that came to my mind was Aladdin's monkey.

Yes I have seen the movie and I even already posted my thoughts on it in the review thread. I didn't like it very much but I bet that if I watched it again I would like it more.

The only MCU movie I didn't like better after watching it a second time is Ant-Man and the Wasp. Screw that movie

Lol, sorry, didn't know what to call you, I just knew I didn't want to type your entire username

Awful that you didn't like CM much, but I agree: F*** Ant-Man & The Wasp!

 

[Binary10]

I'm aware. That doesn't change the fact a lot of the positives are giving it a pass.

Not really

 

[Binary10]

This film is so not worthy of that score. Part of my issue with Rotten Tomatoes is they don’t have a middle ground option. This film is getting a lot of passing grade fresh scores that it frankly doesn’t deserve.

That's your opinion

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

The RT score is only the percentage of critics who've viewed the movie in a positive manner (think of it as a yes/no recommendation.) The more accurate gauge of quality has always been the average rating they assign with their Fresh/Rotten recommendation.

I disagree. The problem with the average rating is that it misrepresents highly polarizing films. For example, let's say some controversial film comes out and of 200 hundred critics, half give it a 1 and half give it a 10. The gives an average rating of 5/10, suggesting an average or mediocre film, which isn't at all what was being said.

That being said, with this particular film it has an average rating of 7/10, which is perfectly normal for a film in the mid-80s on the Tomatometer. Meaning the idea of it being an average film getting unfairly marked positive is a false one. If that was the case we'd see average that is much lower, like in the 5s.

 

[samsnee]

It’s no different than the Thumbs Up or Down reviews that Siskel and Ebert used to do. Ultimately they are saying there is enough there to justify the ticket price.

 

[KBX]

I'm ashamed to admit it took me a few minutes to understand why you called me "Abu". The first thing that came to my mind was Aladdin's monkey.

Yes I have seen the movie and I even already posted my thoughts on it in the review thread. I didn't like it very much but I bet that if I watched it again I would like it more.

The only MCU movie I didn't like better after watching it a second time is Ant-Man and the Wasp. Screw that movie

Fair point. I thought Venom sucked the first time I saw it, but thought it was ok the second time.

 

[roxas99]

I'm aware. That doesn't change the fact a lot of the positives are giving it a pass.

in your opinion.....

 

[jmc]

in your opinion.....

Of course it's my opinion. Y'all really need not bother with this type of redundant statement.

 

[Zyraquis]

The self inflicted meltdown is difficult to watch. Just give it a few more days you will see that people are going to vote with their money where it counts.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

It’s no different than the Thumbs Up or Down reviews that Siskel and Ebert used to do. Ultimately they are saying there is enough there to justify the ticket price.

Exactly. And that reminds me of another thing. Everyone has a different idea of what these numbers mean. To some 5/10 is a pass. To others 8/10 is a pass. There is no standard as to what these numbers mean. This is a major issue with video games where basically any AAA game from major sites like IGN that gets less than a 9 is usually code for "it sucks."

With a simple binary system there can be no doubt as to what the reviewer means. Do you recommend it or not? That's it.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I expect the same to happen on RT's user rating since it always happens. It seems these groups zero in on one or two movies a year to gang up on and review bomb. Last year it was BP; this year it'll be CM and likely SW IX.

This is why internet user ratings are useless.

 

[samsnee]

Of course it's my opinion. Y'all really need not bother with this type of redundant statement.

That’s just your opinion.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

TOMATOMETER
85%
Average Rating: 6.98/10
Reviews Count: 178
Fresh: 151
Rotten: 27

 

[Silver Surfer]

Back to 85%, sweet. No way it drops below 80% now, so we can all step away from the ledge.

Also how rottenly spoiled has the MCU fanbase gotten? an 85% rating is cause for a pseudo-meltdown? God forbid the day we get a movie that gets a rotten score...

 

[metaphysician]

'Captain Marvel' Now Being Review Bombed On IMDb

Yet more evidence for how self-selected internet polls are useless.

That said, if you erased all the 1s and 10s, you probably would end up with a plausible average score.

 

[metaphysician]

They just can't get over BvS and Justice League, can they? I just want to hold them down, start telling them over and over again, "It's okay...you can like both"...repeatedly, until they break down crying and screaming, "NOBODY TOLD ME IT WAS OKAY!!"

What makes you think the problem is them not being able to like both? I doubt it has anything to do with such. It has to do with believing that the DC movies "should be" awesome, and thus clearly there being some Sinister Conspiracy trying to defame and repress those movies. After all, the alternative, that they *actually aren't good*, is clearly impossible, so. . .

 

[metaphysician]

The RT score is only the percentage of critics who've viewed the movie in a positive manner (think of it as a yes/no recommendation.) The more accurate gauge of quality has always been the average rating they assign with their Fresh/Rotten recommendation.

What makes you think that would be more accurate? It measures something that involves a whole heck of a lot more vague, subjective analysis. The Tomatometer, by contrast, measures something pretty inarguable: "Do I recommend this movie, yes no". Its pretty inarguable that when Critic A says they recommend a movie, that it actually is a true and accurate fact. Whether a movie is 'actually' 7/10, or 3/5, or any other measure? Not so much.

Don't let the illusion of exactness make a measure look better, when that exactness is just that: illusory.

 

[flickchick85]

Exactly. And that reminds me of another thing. Everyone has a different idea of what these numbers mean. To some 5/10 is a pass. To others 8/10 is a pass. There is no standard as to what these numbers mean. This is a major issue with video games where basically any AAA game from major sites like IGN that gets less than a 9 is usually code for "it sucks."

With a simple binary system there can be no doubt as to what the reviewer means. Do you recommend it or not? That's it.

Yeah, that's the key to both Siskel & Ebert and Rotten Tomatoes' success, and the reason they both became the go-to critical sources for the populace. Because while film fans like myself and a lot of folks here might love to read critical analysis of a film, the vast majority of the movie-going public ONLY reads a review searching for one answer: do you recommend this film or not? S&E figured that out with their "thumbs up" system and that's the ideal upon which RT was founded, as it forces each critic to answer that question bluntly.