The Run Time Length Thread

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I liked both FF movies so we disargee on that one. They were massively flawed but charming.

I'm not acting like the leaked version was the worse thing ever. It's just a movie that starts out decent but utterly calaspes in some of the second act and dies in the third one.

Hugh Jackman was good in it and Liev S. was awesome eventhough all of his dialogue was an amalgamation of every bad action movie in the 80's and 90's.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

I liked both FF movies so we disargee on that one. They were massively flawed but charming.

I'm not acting like the leaked version was the worse thing ever. It's just a movie that starts out decent but utterly calaspes in some of the second act and dies in the third one.

Hugh Jackman was good in it and Liev S. was awesome eventhough all of his dialogue was an amalgamation of every bad action movie in the 80's and 90's.

Some of Liev's dialogue was cheesy. But some of it was brilliant IMO. Delivery can turn a bad line into a good line, and I don't think ANYONE can deny Liev was immense. The scene in the bar when the barman started speaking to him for example, that was just sick.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Some of Liev's dialogue was cheesy. But some of it was brilliant IMO. Delivery can turn a bad line into a good line, and I don't think ANYONE can deny Liev was immense. The scene in the bar when the barman started speaking to him for example, that was just sick.

Oh yeah. He was awesome and he seemed to be having alot of fun. I like when actors have fun in these type of films.

 

[Peter McCabe]

I liked both FF movies so we disargee on that one. They were massively flawed but charming.

The FF movies are one HUGE collapse from beginning to end. They work on a level of popcorn too buttery for me.

I like them, but that doesn't mean I rate them over a 5.

Hugh Jackman was good in it and Liev S. was awesome eventhough all of his dialogue was an amalgamation of every bad action movie in the 80's and 90's.

Well here's the thing, Creed's dialogue was actually inspired by a great deal of Sabretooth mythos from the comics.

Sabretooth is a character that was conceived at the very start of 80s styled action.

Chuck Norris had began to make a name for himself in the late 70s, Charles Bronson had gone insane, Sylvester Stallone traded in his Oscar Nomination for an M-60 and a profesional bodybuilder with a funny accent was about to EXPLODE on to the big screen with a name that would change action movies forever - SCHWARZENEGGER.

That era gave birth to Victor Creed, and even though Liev Schreiber's acting skills make Arnold's look like an 8th grader's, Liev is playing a character that was more cheese than anything else.

The Creed character has always embodied the muscular, macho alpha-male persona. He's big, he's strong, he's mean, he looks like a cross between Dolph Lundgren and a Bobcat, etc...

Liev is obviously bringing some much needed depth to this character, but for me the dialogue I've heard so far isn't cheesy - its all a throwback to that one dimensional macho heroism from the 80s.

"Well, well, well. Look what the cat dragged in."

Chuck Norris coulda said that. Maybe he did...

The dialogue is in the essence of Creed, the same way Jackman's dialogue is in the essence of Logan - which has that older 70s antihero lingo.

Logan's lines coulda been Eastwood's, or McQueen's, or Bronson's.

 

[Rac]

If Dutch and British classification boards have seen the film already, VET, the Finnish one is soon to follow. I'll the post the runtime then. It won't differ from their 106/107 minutes, but they always include the seconds and the metres of the film.

1h 46min 18sec / 106 minutes

 

[drmick]

1h 46min 18sec / 106 minutes

How long was the workprint?

 

[Nathan]

With credits and after credits scene, 1h 46min 51sec.

 

[chaseter]

And the leak minus credits was some where around 97 minutes I believe so I am sure this is about the same. Just so depressing

 

[drmick]

Wow.

So the actual film is the same length as the workprint? Plus or minus a few seconds of footage?

That is shocking given the whole Studio anti-workprint hype.

 

[chaseter]

Not really They lied, most everyone expected that. I think that work print was farther along than some people want to believe.

 

[Timstuff]

So Rothman was lying, just like he always lies, and the workprint is pretty much what we'll see in theaters minus the score and FX. Wow, what a shocker.

Critics are gonna rip this movie a new one.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

So Rothman was lying, just like he always lies, and the workprint is pretty much what we'll see in theaters minus the score and FX. Wow, what a shocker.

Critics are gonna rip this movie a new one.

Yeah, I can see the critics ripping this apart also.

 

[chaseter]

X3 ended up with 50's on RT and I see this ending up about the same, possibly in the low 60's.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Still cant believe X3 got that good of a rating to be honest.

 

[Timstuff]

X3 had 55% on the tomatometer, so a slim majority of critics said it was good. I see this movie doing worse though, because even as someone who liked X3 I thought this one sucked. I can see it getting in the low 40's or mid-to-low 30's, easily.

 

[Downhere]

The Tomatometer will be fun to see when the film gets reviewed. I think it could end up in the 60% range.

 

[drmick]

Two qestions:

1. Were there credits on the workprint? (At the end I mean).

2. Was there an after-credits scene/coda?

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Na the majority of the credits on the workprint were from X3. There is mid and end of credits scenes.

 

[drmick]

Na the majority of the credits on the workprint were from X3. There is mid and end of credits scenes.

Thank you.

So I guess the workprint was essentially a finished piece in terms of photography.

Ah well, I really enjoyed F4 because I went to see it expecting a disaster. Hopefully the same thing will happen with this one.

 

[Goopman25]

If Fox did right to the fans, characters, etc, the film should run Spidey length(21/2 to 3 hours). Set up for other potential spin-offs and more stories for other characters later. I just hope Fox didn't go the Mortal Kombat route with small cameos just showing the main powers before giving the spotlight back to the main character(s).

 

[Timstuff]

The Tomatometer will be fun to see when the film gets reviewed. I think it could end up in the 60% range.

Considering that this movie is worse than X-Men 3, the only way I see it getting better reviews is if standards have gotten lower since X3 came out.

 

[Hypestyle]

I hope that there will be an unrated extended version dvd, and has more character moments as well as more violence..

 

[Timstuff]

If Fox did right to the fans, characters, etc, the film should run Spidey length(21/2 to 3 hours). Set up for other potential spin-offs and more stories for other characters later.

My biggest knock against X3 was always that I felt like it should have been at least a half hour longer-- preferably 2.5 hours long. Unfortunately, Fox doesn't do long movies anymore.

I just hope Fox didn't go the Mortal Kombat route with small cameos just showing the main powers before giving the spotlight back to the main character(s).

I hate to break it to you, but that's actually exactly what they did.

 

[Timstuff]

I hope that there will be an unrated extended version dvd, and has more character moments as well as more violence..

Fox is so stingy that I doubt there's much that they filmed that won't be in the actual movie. There will be deleted / alternate scenes, sure, but it's not like Fox has an extra half hour of story that's laying around, waiting to be reinserted.

 

[lordofthenerds]

X3 had 55% on the tomatometer, so a slim majority of critics said it was good. I see this movie doing worse though, because even as someone who liked X3 I thought this one sucked. I can see it getting in the low 40's or mid-to-low 30's, easily.

I could see this getting anywhere from about 20 to 40. This was a lot worse than X3.