The Run Time Length Thread

[Peter McCabe]

Your saying it's only DVD quality if it's the finished film.

Exactly.

DVDs contain finished films. Unfinished films are not sold on DVD.

Workprints are not sold on DVD.

This was DVD quality because the images weren't blurry, and it wasn't filmed with a camcorder.

It was clear, yes. But not finished - therefore NOT DVD quality.

And I enjoyed the unfinished touches of the film for the most part, because you don't get to see that part of a film very often. As a film student, it was interesting for me to see that side.

That's fine, but I personally believe watching a fim in that condition can tarnish one's overall view of the film.

 

[3 Dev Adam]

X-Men Origins: Wolverine comes out on May 1st.

And, mark my words, it will suck.

 

[Figs]

Jesus Christ Peter why do feel the need to be a smart ass or play dumb just to give people head aches.

Anyone with common sense knows that when someone says a movie was DVD quality it's almost always mainly referring to the actual screen quality. Meaning it's not from a handy cam and it's not blurry or the colors aren't off.

You know damn well your being a smart ass by ignoring that and going on that "oh the effects aren't finished so it's not DVD quality".

The effects aren't finished means it's an unfinished film, the screen quality looking like it will on an official DVD release would mean the leak although unfinished, looks like DVD quality.

 

[Timstuff]

Actually, all the movies I own on DVD don't feature borrowed scores, ridiculously unfinished effects and actors fighting on wires.

All that baggage alone was enough for me to turn the movie off after the title sequence.

And yet that title sequence was so great, that you rated the movie a 10 for it. Nice.

 

[Timstuff]

Exactly.

DVDs contain finished films. Unfinished films are not sold on DVD.

Workprints are not sold on DVD.

So you're saying that it's not RETAIL DVD quality. That's a very big distinction. The fact remains that the video is still DVD quality. Also, you've clearly not seen any of the DVDs that they sell for $1 if you think that Wolverine's picture quality wasn't superior to those.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Jesus Christ Peter why do feel the need to be a smart ass or play dumb just to give people head aches.

Thanks for the message board hostility.

Anyone with common sense knows that when someone says a movie was DVD quality it's almost always mainly referring to the actual screen quality. Meaning it's not from a handy cam and it's not blurry or the colors aren't off.

Sure.

You know damn well your being a smart ass by ignoring that and going on that "oh the effects aren't finished so it's not DVD quality".

And it goes on...

The effects aren't finished means it's an unfinished film, the screen quality looking like it will on an official DVD release would mean the leak although unfinished, looks like DVD quality.

You sound bitter and unhappy.

 

[Figs]

Thanks for the message board hostility.



Sure.



And it goes on...



You sound bitter and unhappy.

If I sound bitter and unhappy it's because I get sick of seeing some of your posts where you defend this film like it's your literal child in any and all ways possible...even BS'ing people with semantics about DVD quality.

And no, that is not hostility. I asked you a question in regards to why you have to be a smartass since that is what you we're being in regards to the DVD quality argument. I even asked one of my coworkers sitting next to me what comes to mind when they hear 'DVD quality'. Their answer was what I expected, it's in regards to the picture quality.

So in regards to the 'hostility' comment. No, I didn't call you dumb I asked why must you play dumb, big difference.

 

[Peter McCabe]

And yet that title sequence was so great, that you rated the movie a 10 for it. Nice.

Its really hilarious how you think that incriminates me somehow or makes me a lesser person in any way t:

*I voted 10 only to spit on that poll.

The Leaked film shoulda never been allowed to have a poll like that in the first place.

Good thing it got shut down

So you're saying that it's not RETAIL DVD quality. That's a very big distinction. The fact remains that the video is still DVD quality. Also, you've clearly not seen any of the DVDs that they sell for $1 if you think that Wolverine's picture quality wasn't superior to those.

I'm saying workprints aren't sold.

The workprint you saw is actually illegal in these United States

 

[Peter McCabe]

If I sound bitter and unhappy it's because I get sick of seeing some of your posts where you defend this film like it's your literal child in any and all ways possible...even BS'ing people with semantics about DVD quality.And no, that is not hostility. I asked you a question in regards to why you have to be a smartass since that is what you we're being in regards to the DVD quality argument. I even asked one of my coworkers sitting next to me what comes to mind when they hear 'DVD quality'. Their answer was what I expected, it's in regards to the picture quality. So in regards to the 'hostility' comment. No, I didn't call you dumb I asked why must you play dumb, big difference.

Once again, for the 80th time, workprints aren't sold. DVDs are sold.

The leak has a good picture quality, but its not something I would compare to anything I own on DVD.

The effects are bad, the people are on wires at times and the score is borrowed from various films.

In the end, If the leak ends up being IDENTICAL in content to the final film, I still can't deem it DVD quality because of the problems listed above.

 

[Timstuff]

Its really hilarious how you think that incriminates me somehow or makes me a lesser person in any way t:

*I voted 10 only to spit on that poll.

The Leaked film shoulda never been allowed to have a poll like that in the first place.

You still voted dishonestly, which makes everyone who gave it a positive vote look less credible. And I don't care if the poll got shut down, because everyone has had a chance to vote on it by now anyway, and the averaged results were 5.5. The consensus is that the film is mediocre.

 

[Peter McCabe]

You still voted dishonestly, which makes everyone who gave it a positive vote look less credible. And I don't care if the poll got shut down, because everyone has had a chance to vote on it by now anyway, and the averaged results were 5.5. The consensus is that the film is mediocre.

The "consensus" is invalid.

It doesn't mean anything.

As far as I'm concerned, all that poll did is allow you to share your utter hate for FOX in an interactive fashion.

*Unfortunately that same hate is displayed in every thread in this forum that you enter

 

[Figs]

Once again, for the 80th time, workprints aren't sold. DVDs are sold.

The leak has a good picture quality, but its not something I would compare to anything I own on DVD.

The effects are bad, the people are on wires at times and the score is borrowed from various films.

In the end, If the leak ends up being IDENTICAL in content to the final film, I still can't deem it DVD quality because of the problems listed above.

More semantics...for the 80th time. I never said anything about something being sold, I have no idea where you got that.

Your chosing to ignore the facts that all the time people have been saying the leak was DVD quality(and once again only needing common sense) that they are talking about the screen quality...not EFFECTS. Of course an actual DVD will be the full finished cut with all effects/wire work done. When people usually need to point that out, they usually say something along the lines of "the finished film" or "the final cut". I've never heard anyone in all my life when referring to DVD or VHS quality(in the past) mean to compare it between a film with unfinished effects, it's always meant picture and sound quality.

 

[Peter McCabe]

More semantics...for the 80th time. I never said anything about something being sold, I have no idea where you got that.

Your chosing to ignore the facts that all the time people have been saying the leak was DVD quality(and once again only needing common sense) that they are talking about the screen quality...not EFFECTS. Of course an actual DVD will be the full finished cut with all effects/wire work done. When people usually need to point that out, they usually say something along the lines of "the finished film" or "the final cut". I've never heard anyone in all my life when referring to DVD or VHS quality(in the past) mean to compare it between a film with unfinished effects, it's always meant picture and sound quality.

I guess I don't use the term "DVD quality" so freely because I've seen workprints to many films.

They always look clear, its just that they're lacking so many things that prevent them from being deemed [IMO] a DVD quality movie.

I have workprints of several movies and because they suffer from those issues [like no score at times, no CGI all the time or sometimes scenes that never made the final film] I still am forced to go out and buy them on DVD to be able to watch the films properly.

This Wolverine workprint is gonna be interesting to watch once I've seen the final film.

But it'll never be something that can prevent me from buying Wolverine on DVD in 5 months

 

[Figs]

That's the point McCabe. Whether you want to call it a workprint or a bootleg, I agree with you in that it's not a finished film. But in regards to 'DVD quality', when most people use that term they're usually only referring to the picture quality not whether the effects are finished.

You are literally the first person I've ever heard use it that way, which is why I'm assuming you were being that picky about it just to win your argument...that yes Wolverine will be the second coming.

 

[night0205]

I'm so not understanding what you people are arguing about? :/

 

[Figs]

I'm so not understanding what you people are arguing about? :/

LOL

Don't worry about it. It's over anyways.

 

[Anita18]

Wow.

So the actual film is the same length as the workprint? Plus or minus a few seconds of footage?

That is shocking given the whole Studio anti-workprint hype.

I guess it comes down to if they actually replaced old shots with new ones. But I certainly hope the editing is more refined in the final version than in the workprint. I could tell was a rough edit, but if it stays, it'll be THE worst-edited film I will have ever seen. Catwoman wasn't as painful to watch in terms of pacing.

But I guess we'll just have to see.

 

[The Squirrel]

Jesus Christ Peter why do feel the need to be a smart ass or play dumb just to give people head aches.

Anyone with common sense knows that when someone says a movie was DVD quality it's almost always mainly referring to the actual screen quality. Meaning it's not from a handy cam and it's not blurry or the colors aren't off.

You know damn well your being a smart ass by ignoring that and going on that "oh the effects aren't finished so it's not DVD quality".

The effects aren't finished means it's an unfinished film, the screen quality looking like it will on an official DVD release would mean the leak although unfinished, looks like DVD quality.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

even for picture quality its still not dvd quality. considering what it is, it is good, clear quality, but if the dvd release looked like that id be pissed. it is kinda blurry. and to answer a question asked of peter - we defend this film "like its our child" for the same reason people feel the need to attack it like it killed their mom. we feel that this film (even in its workprint state) is not anything close to the piss poor piece of trash that some make it out to be (well at least me cuz pete hasnt seen it). as long as there are people who call it mediocre, or worse, i will be here to present MY truth that it is a good movie that is a worthy addition to the x men film franchise, and a solid adaptation of the character wolverine.

 

[CelticPredator]

Its really hilarious how you think that incriminates me somehow or makes me a lesser person in any way t:

*I voted 10 only to spit on that poll.

The Leaked film shoulda never been allowed to have a poll like that in the first place.

Good thing it got shut down

Heh....i'm gonna laugh when the actual theater cut is the same damn crappy workprint, with pretty effects.

This "OMG U SUCK CUZ U DOWNLOAD" stuff is just pointless. I did it, and there we go. It doesnt effect you, and it bearly effects FOX. So get on with your lives, and stop worrying about what other people do.

Now...back to the real stuff...FOX needs to get destroyed.

 

[CelticPredator]

By the way, you cant tell people how to think. I cant tell you the movie is ****, and call that a fact. Just like you cant say "It isnt that bad", because I THINK it is. I think its very bad. X-3 bad...and that to me, is very bad.

 

[Peter McCabe]

even for picture quality its still not dvd quality. considering what it is, it is good, clear quality, but if the dvd release looked like that id be pissed. it is kinda blurry. and to answer a question asked of peter - we defend this film "like its our child" for the same reason people feel the need to attack it like it killed their mom. we feel that this film (even in its workprint state) is not anything close to the piss poor piece of trash that some make it out to be (well at least me cuz pete hasnt seen it). as long as there are people who call it mediocre, or worse, i will be here to present MY truth that it is a good movie that is a worthy addition to the x men film franchise, and a solid adaptation of the character wolverine.

 

[CelticPredator]

I hate the thumbs up symbol thing. Personal pet peeve.

 

[Superhero 101]

Well then,

 

[C. Lee]

People....you can discuss and debate things until the cows come home....but you will di it civily.

Stop the name calling.