The Run Time Length Thread

[bapi]

Also here in Czech Rep Wolvie's local distributor says it's 107 minutes long.

So Rothman was lying, huh?

 

[night0205]

Yep, lyin does not help reputation...Tom Rothman deserves all the hatin in the world, and then some, because many people haven't even heard of him. Australia was the last good movie released by Fox and it was co-produced, and they probably got a big contract for Fox to sign, to keep certain things the way they want...but that's not the case for X-men movies.

Yeah I just looked at every movie Fox has distributed in the last 5 years, and...they SUCK! I don't understand how they are still in business, except for the fact that they are penny pinchers. There are a couple good movies within the 50-100, but it seems like the X-men Franchise is the one thing keeping them afloat...so they better be praying Wolverine does well.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Yep, lyin does not help reputation...Tom Rothman deserves all the hatin in the world, and then some, because many people haven't even heard of him. Australia was the last good movie released by Fox and it was co-produced, and they probably got a big contract for Fox to sign, to keep certain things the way they want...but that's not the case for X-men movies.

Yeah I just looked at every movie Fox has distributed in the last 5 years, and...they SUCK! I don't understand how they are still in business, except for the fact that they are penny pinchers. There are a couple good movies within the 50-100, but it seems like the X-men Franchise is the one thing keeping them afloat...so they better be praying Wolverine does well.

Revenge of The Sith was great and I loved X3.

*Both those movies made ALOT of money.

 

[Nathan]

*sigh* The lots of money argument again. Money doesn't say anything about the quality of a movie. Especially when its a sequel to two successful movies and people naturally expected it to be just as good. Which, IMO, it wasn't.

And X3 only made 20mil more than X2 and X2 was made for 100mil less than X3.

 

[night0205]

Star Wars gets a free ticket into Heaven! X3 would be part of the "X-men franchise keeping them afloat point", but again that was a couple years ago...

 

[Peter McCabe]

*sigh* The lots of money argument again. Money doesn't say anything about the quality of a movie. Especially when its a sequel to two successful movies and people naturally expected it to be just as good. Which, IMO, it wasn't.

And X3 only made 20mil more than X2 and X2 was made for 100mil less than X3.

It doesn't really matter.

That same argument you can apply to Spider Man 3.

They didn't profit as much as their predecessors, but here we are 2 weeks away from a another X-Men movie after X3 and 2 years away from a sequel to Spider Man 3.

They banked, and that's all that matters.

 

[dark_b]

It doesn't really matter.

That same argument you can apply to Spider Man 3.

They didn't profit as much as their predecessors, but here we are 2 weeks away from a another X-Men movie after X3 and 2 years away from a sequel to Spider Man 3.

They banked, and that's all that matters.

of course it matters

 

[Figs]

*sigh* The lots of money argument again. Money doesn't say anything about the quality of a movie. Especially when its a sequel to two successful movies and people naturally expected it to be just as good. Which, IMO, it wasn't.

And X3 only made 20mil more than X2 and X2 was made for 100mil less than X3.

QFT! $$$$ doesn't always equal quality.

 

[Knives]

Not really They lied, most everyone expected that. I think that work print was farther along than some people want to believe.

Yeah this is ridiculous. SO what happened to that extra 15 to 20 minutes of footage FOX and and the apologists were chattering about? Where did that go? I KNEW it was ********. There was simply nowhere to put it in that workprint. The workprint IS the film. Plain and simple. And no amount of finished FX are going to fix this film. It was incredibly mediocre. Now I really hae no reason to see it either, seeing as the workprint aside from FX an dmusic, was essentially the final version of this movie. Thanks Fox for ****ing up another one!

 

[Timstuff]

Yeah this is ridiculous. SO what happened to that extra 15 to 20 minutes of footage FOX and and the apologists were chattering about? Where did that go? I KNEW it was ********. There was simply nowhere to put it in that workprint. The workprint IS the film. Plain and simple. And no amount of finished FX are going to fix this film. It was incredibly mediocre. Now I really hae no reason to see it either, seeing as the workprint aside from FX an dmusic, was essentially the final version of this movie. Thanks Fox for ****ing up another one!

Yup. If there was extra footage in the theatrical version it MIGHT have been enough to get me to watch, but knowing what I know I'm not going to watch it until it's available on Netflix. I am convinced that aside from the FX and score, I have pretty much seen the final cut of the movie.

Also, to the people who brought up Star Wars Episode III as a success for Fox-- Fox only distributed the movie. George Lucas funded it with his own $$$, so Lucasfilm got most of the money off of it. It was basically a really expensive independent film that got released through Fox, but it was not a Fox venture, and while I'm sure Lucas gave them a good deal, it was not really that big of a moneymaker for their studio.

 

[night0205]

Yeah George Lucas got most of the profit, Fox just wanted a % of that. I do believe there is extra footage in the movie we will see on May 1st. Maybe only a couple minutes, but with all the editing they had to do, there has to be new stuff from the leak.

 

[The Squirrel]

1h 46min 18sec / 106 minutes

It's the same.

 

[Timstuff]

Nice avvi, Squirrel.

 

[Peter McCabe]

Yup. If there was extra footage in the theatrical version it MIGHT have been enough to get me to watch, but knowing what I know I'm not going to watch it until it's available on Netflix. I am convinced that aside from the FX and score, I have pretty much seen the final cut of the movie.

What else have you convinced yourself of?

There's no solid evidence to suggest that the footage that was shot in January has not been fully inserted into the workprint you saw.

As of now, it looks like whatever was shot in January, was shot to replace footage from the workprint that didn't sit well with test screenings.

*If you're gonna make bold statements based on guesses, don't expect people to care. If you're gonna continue bashing this movie, you're gonna need to know what you're talking about.

The film that comes out in 2 weeks might have a very different outcome than the film you saw in crappy quality on your computer.

 

[CelticPredator]

It was DVD quailty.

 

[The Squirrel]

Nice avvi, Squirrel.

Thanks.

What else have you convinced yourself of?

There's no solid evidence to suggest that the footage that was shot in January has not been fully inserted into the workprint you saw.

As of now, it looks like whatever was shot in January, was shot to replace footage from the workprint that didn't sit well with test screenings.

*If you're gonna make bold statements based on guesses, don't expect people to care. If you're gonna continue bashing this movie, you're gonna need to know what you're talking about.

The film that comes out in 2 weeks might have a very different outcome than the film you saw in crappy quality on your computer.

Why are you in denial that Rothman could have lied? It happened with X3, and it will/may happen here.

 

[dark_b]

It was DVD quailty.

he knows it. he rate it 10

 

[Peter McCabe]

Why are you in denial that Rothman could have lied? It happened with X3, and it will/may happen here.

Not in denial, its more than possible.

But its gonna take another 13 days for us to know for sure.

*The statement that he made is a false statement, but there may be some truth to it if the final film contains footage that was not in the leak.

Since we know that both films have the same running time, for new footage to be inserted - old footage would have to be removed.

Its all gotta be from the third act.

 

[Peter McCabe]

It was DVD quailty.

Actually, all the movies I own on DVD don't feature borrowed scores, ridiculously unfinished effects and actors fighting on wires.

All that baggage alone was enough for me to turn the movie off after the title sequence.

 

[CelticPredator]

Its still good quailty. So....

 

[Peter McCabe]

Its still good quailty. So....

Good quality, not DVD quality.

But we're not talking about X-Men Origins: Wolverine, we're talking about what was to become X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

X-Men Origins: Wolverine comes out on May 1st.

 

[dark_b]

it was DVD quality and thats a fact.

 

[Peter McCabe]

it was DVD quality and thats a fact.

Only in your mind.

 

[The Squirrel]

Only in your mind.

Your saying it's only DVD quality if it's the finished film. This was DVD quality because the images weren't blurry, and it wasn't filmed with a camcorder.

And I enjoyed the unfinished touches of the film for the most part, because you don't get to see that part of a film very often. As a film student, it was interesting for me to see that side.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

to argue remantics, since thats all we're doing here, the leak was less than dvd quality, i know what i saw. however, it was still near dvd quality.