Yea, DP is definitely my favourite comic book character, and I really hope they do something at the end of this film to tee him up for his own movie.
With his own movie it wouldn't just have to be a action film/satire. He really is quite a disturbed character who has deep feelings of self loathing and bitterness towards the world. He is a tragic guy really, he uses his insane humour and hard man attitude to cover up his insecurities, appearance for example.
These things need to be showed, otherwise it would just end up as a brainless action fest.
Well that's the selling point I think. That's how they would market it.
Wade is like the mysterious bad ass at the start of the film, they make it pretty clear that he is a sicko. I'm sure audiences (especially the teenagers) will want to see a guy who wields two swords and who can take out whole rooms of bad guys, as well as being a funny bastard.
I think that is why they made him the main focus of the scenes he was in, they were basically completely centered around him.
IMO there just isn't enough of an emotional investment in the character, to really care for him. So he had some badass scenes where he kicks ass, might just as well give Darth Maul his solo Movie.
Unless we see the cancer angle and we see that there's more to him than traveling around, killing people, the audience won't further care for him after he gets killed as Barakapool.
IMO there just isn't enough of an emotional investment in the character, to really care for him. So he had some badass scenes where he kicks ass, might just as well give Darth Maul his solo Movie.
Unless we see the cancer angle and we see that there's more to him than traveling around, killing people, the audience won't further care for him after he gets killed as Barakapool.
In the issues I'm reading now, there are parts where I get emotionally attached to the character. For me it comes when he is talking to Vanessa and she tells him he has to put everything bad that has happened to him, behind him. Behind the guy who we see as a killing and never ending talking machine, is a guy who wants to be the hero, who wants what he once had. He has many layers to him, but hides it behind the crazy person we see. He is not a black & White character, he is more grey than anything. Pop that into film and people will care.
I didn't expect Wade to get half an hour of screen time, but just a few additional scenes, like showing the rest of Team X get recruited and why each of them joins. Perfect opportunity to mention the cancer. Or show what happened before he ended up on the operation table.
In the issues I'm reading now, there are parts where I get emotionally attached to the character. For me it comes when he is talking to Vanessa and she tells him he has to put everything bad that has happened to him, behind him. Behind the guy who we see as a killing and never ending talking machine, is a guy who wants to be the hero, who wants what he once had. He has many layers to him, but hides it behind the crazy person we see. He is not a black & White character, he is more grey than anything. Pop that into film and people will care.
That's why I get pissed off when people just call him a Deathstroke rip off or a one dimensional character.
He has one of the most complex personalities of any comic book character, that's why I got into him. If he was just a loud mouth with guns and swords I would of never become a fan.
I suppose you could say Deadpool started off like that in the comics. He didn't care about anyone else or anything else. He thought that because the world screwed him over, he was gonna screw the world over as well. And he enjoyed killing back then.
But as Lunar says, he started to realize there was still hope for him yet. All that can be saved for his own film. I don't want to see him trying to redeem himself in this film, that journey needs to be saved.
I didn't expect Wade to get half an hour of screen time, but just a few additional scenes, like showing the rest of Team X get recruited and why each of them joins. Perfect opportunity to mention the cancer. Or show what happened before he ended up on the operation table.
IMO there just isn't enough of an emotional investment in the character, to really care for him. So he had some badass scenes where he kicks ass, might just as well give Darth Maul his solo Movie.
Unless we see the cancer angle and we see that there's more to him than traveling around, killing people, the audience won't further care for him after he gets killed as Barakapool.
Word. That's what I've been saying all along. Movie Deadpool is closer to Ultimate Deadpool than he is to 616 Deadpool, and Ultimate DP never showed his face (or lack there of) again after that Ultimate Spidey stunt.
Sorry about the spoiler tags, I don't want to abuse them, but this post, it turned out to be essay length.
I played with something I would do for an Deadpool: Origin movie. Kind of like a mental exercise and I had a good time with it. I thought I'd share, even if it's really just something personal. It's not all I'd like to do with Deadpool, actually. I like good, fun action flicks, and I have a (lot more original) story of that sort in mind, but this is not it. And yeah, I know I'm not a writer.
This (obviously) is never going to happen. I don't think people would even pay to see it happen. And, even though I love how the tragicomedy works in the comics, I'm a bit worried about anything "dark and gritty". Takes a lot of talent to get it right. Takes even more to not try and shove messages down the audience's throat.
I'd say a thriller/drama/black comedy combination would be appropriate to describe what it would be about. It would start with a flashback taking us back in time to the end of XMO: Wolverine. Killebrew and Francis (our villain, Ajax) accompanied by some unnamed soldiers, find what initially appears to be a (fresh) corpse in the ruins. Turns out, Wade isn't as dead as expected, and Killebrew shows some interest in tort- I mean studying him in the name of science. The reasoning is, "So, the Weapon X project messed it up, again. I'll figure out what went wrong, even if that means I have to pick it apart and put it back together a thousand times. Yes, I know it is, in theory, a human being. I just don't care." Then, I'd continue with a kind of adapted retelling of Deadpool & Death Annual and Payback (that pretty much sums up the basic plot).
I would fuse the two stories to escape having Death as a 'real' character, in a way that avoids making the flashbacks seem random. I'd still keep Death as a hallucination when Francis kills Wade in the Workshop. Freud would love that scene. I also admit I like unreliable 1st person narrators.
The present tense narrative would be 3rd person, with occasional glimpses of what DP is seeing in 1st person (like the ghosts, who could be hallucinations or not, and appear remarkably like a chorus from a Greek tragedy). The Workshop flashbacks are in 1st person narrative told from Deadpool's (present, retrospective) POV, but with some bits that he still shouldn't know about. (But he's Deadpool, so he does.)
He is narrating like he was talking to the audience, but he's really talking to Ilaney (from 'Payback'). I'd have Killebrew make DP tell her the story to help clear his conscience. DP has to obey, or else Killebrew refuses to tell him how to kill Ajax (which he, of course, doesn't actually know).
I'd give the film a threatening atmosphere with a stage-like feel - few characters (with the speaking parts counted on one hand), tight plot. It would only have the Ajax story, not even a reference to anything outside - apart from Ilaney's backstory, told in a single flashback right after the title, to explain what her character's about.
The rest would mostly play out the way it did in Payback. I'd keep the supernatural elements, but I'd transform them to make it obvious they are part of DP's perception of reality and that means they either are or aren't, real.
To compensate for the depressing atmosphere, and because they belong here, I'd keep some positive messages (suggested, but not an explicit morale!) about concepts like human rights, free will, dignity, empathy, redemption, and DP's struggle to overcome himself and become a better person. These themes are behind Deadpool's best serious moments.
i mostly agree with you there. they did use him and then simply toss him out the window with little care. however he may be seen as a little more than a throwaway character as he did have some impact on the movie.
Hmmm I wouldn't call him throwaway. His whole arc (although not on screen most of the time) is the secondary plot to the movie
yeah he isnt a pure throwaway character, but he was used similar to a throwaway character. however i wouldnt say his story is the secondary plot to the movie as he wasnt given much story.
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