The Sarah Connor Chronicles

[Nightmare]

lol, now only to find a way to kill off agent ellison and the shirleynator. Then put cromartie back to a badass killing machine.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

lol, now only to find a way to kill off agent ellison and the shirleynator. Then put cromartie back to a badass killing machine.

I don't mind Ellison, but I agree with the rest of your post!

Shirleynator must go!

 

[Paradox1]

I don't mind Ellison, but I agree with the rest of your post!

Shirleynator must go!

you never know Shirleynator could be that machine that was in a box.Instead of joining Connor she may have gone back to do things her way.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I find the T-1000 interesting, I just wish her plot would go somewhere.

This week's episode was totally better than like this entire last half of the season. I loved it. Especially John starting to act like the John of the future, who could conceivably be mankind's only hope for survival.

 

[black_dust]

I find the T-1000 interesting,

T-1001

 

[FCEEVIPER]

I find the T-1000 interesting, I just wish her plot would go somewhere.

This week's episode was totally better than like this entire last half of the season. I loved it. Especially John starting to act like the John of the future, who could conceivably be mankind's only hope for survival.

Plus 1.

 

[Golgo-13]

I've never seen Jessie as bad either , just restless and bitter but a warrior nevertheless who believed in the cause. I actually find her far more likeable then John Connor myself ,but then again I don't like this John. I preferred the T2 and T3 versions of the character.

T3's Connor was the worst possible incarnation of the character..ever...but that's just my opinion!

I think you make a good point about Cameron . One of the things hurting the show imo is lack of movement of storylines like this. Hopefully they'll start to pick up the pace and start answers questions and get the ball rolling for once.[/QUOTE]

The one storyline that is really dragging is the Ellison/John Henry/Shirley nator one. It's becoming most annoying to me.

P.S i love Lena Headey, but does anyone find that when she's on screen, the atmosphere becomes depressing. It's like Sarah never has anything nice to say. And while i'm on Sarah; i'm really irritated by the picture they use of Headey in the jeep with the dog (the one that's supposed to be from the end of T1 with preganant Sarah). The picture annoys me because it looks like they photoshopped Headey's head ontop of Hamiltons body, instead of setting up the shot again, and taking a fresh pic with Headey. Headey's head doesn't match Hamilitons body at all!

 

[FCEEVIPER]

T3's Connor was the worst possible incarnation of the character..ever...but that's just my opinion!

I disagree, that's my fav John so far. To each is own I guess. t:

P.S i love Lena Headey, but does anyone find that when she's on screen, the atmosphere becomes depressing. It's like Sarah never has anything nice to say. And while i'm on Sarah; i'm really irritated by the picture they use of Headey in the jeep with the dog (the one that's supposed to be from the end of T1 with preganant Sarah). The picture annoys me because it looks like they photoshopped Headey's head ontop of Hamiltons body, instead of setting up the shot again, and taking a fresh pic with Headey. Headey's head doesn't match Hamilitons body at all!

Yeah every time she on film it does feel like the scene has got depressing. It gets very annoying.

Also I feel her acting is not that great, I mean I seen her other films and she can act but in TSCC her acting is sub par. Maybe it's directing on the show?

 

[Robdixxo]

Well, I didn't really mind Riley. But I am excited to see where the storyline is heading.

 

[Angry Sentinel]

Edit....I don't consider Jesse bad, by any sense, just misguided.

We still don't really know the true extent of how much control future Cameron has over future Connor. She said "telling me is like telling John".......really creepy. I wouldn't be suprised if the reason why Cameron was sent back was to get her away from Connor, cause she had taken over. Hell, i wouldn't be suprised if someone other than Connor sent her back (after a slight reprogramming) to get her away from him cause she was corrupting his thinking....or even holding him captive ; notice that nobody ever gets to speak to or see him in the flesh.....something to think about.

Sarah also bought up a good question in this ep about why future John had sent Cameron away from him...like i said before, maybe he didn't send her. Maybe someone else sent her to get her away from him......

I don't know if the show is trying to take that angle. From everything we've been shown it looks like we are learning why John has isolated himself away from humans and only has audience with 'the metal'.
For example,
1) Having humans around allows for forming complicated, intimate bonds, which causes a lot of pain and distraction when they die
2) Humans die, no replacement, machines can be replaced.
3) Humans have a way of 'disobeying' orders when they do not understand the reasonings, no need for explanations with the 'metal'.
4) It's been stated "by Cameron" that the only way for John to stay safe is to be totally alone... "Even I am a security risk." Why have many security risks when you can limit it to just one.

Rape? I thought he was just trying to beat her up.

I will have to re-watch the ep. I thought he made a comment that insinuated he was going to 'try her goods'. Then after they jumped her he bent her over the table in a very compromising position. This may have just been a part of the fight, but again, I took it as potential rape.

 

[The Chris]

The last few episodes make me like John Connor again. This last episode was absolutely tremendous and made me believe that this kid WILL be the leader of the resistance.

 

[Golgo-13]

I can't recall the comment, but the way she was slung onto the table was like they were about to rape her.....

 

[FCEEVIPER]

The last few episodes make me like John Connor again. This last episode was absolutely tremendous and made me believe that this kid WILL be the leader of the resistance.

Same here.

 

[Frodo]

T3's Connor was the worst possible incarnation of the character..ever...but that's just my opinion!

I think you make a good point about Cameron . One of the things hurting the show imo is lack of movement of storylines like this. Hopefully they'll start to pick up the pace and start answers questions and get the ball rolling for once.

The one storyline that is really dragging is the Ellison/John Henry/Shirley nator one. It's becoming most annoying to me.

P.S i love Lena Headey, but does anyone find that when she's on screen, the atmosphere becomes depressing. It's like Sarah never has anything nice to say. And while i'm on Sarah; i'm really irritated by the picture they use of Headey in the jeep with the dog (the one that's supposed to be from the end of T1 with preganant Sarah). The picture annoys me because it looks like they photoshopped Headey's head ontop of Hamiltons body, instead of setting up the shot again, and taking a fresh pic with Headey. Headey's head doesn't match Hamilitons body at all![/QUOTE]

Hamilton will always be Sarah Connor imo. Headey always seems to be posing and pouting her lips as SC, though I think she has cute accent if you ever heard her during interviews. They don't write her that well anyway so I don't think Headey has much to work with .

As for JC I think the SCC Version is by far the worst. He reminds me too much of Anakin from the Star Wars prequels. In T3 he was a loser but he was better character and far more likeable imo. In T2 he was a little wise a$$ and punk but yet he was still a likeable kid.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

What I think is Sarah is just going through a rough and difficult phase. I was watching the trailer for Friday's episode and [BLACKOUT]from the sounds of it, she finds a lump in her breast and theres a scene between her and Charley where she tells him. [/BLACKOUT]

I love Sarah, not only she's a mother to John but the fact that as a human being, she's not very good at making good decisions even though she has made a few good ones, but no being is nowhere near as perfect.

You can love or hate her or do both...but sometimes when I watch how Sarah goes through each episode and how she reacts to situations, it makes my gut feel like she stabbed me there cause I knew her decision wasn't the greatest. Yet, at the same time, I understand why she did it the way she felt things had to be done.

Do I agree with everything Sarah says and does? No. Not everything but I accept that she's not this perfect woman - this perfect mother. Its her choices and mistakes that only makes her human and I could say the same for John. There are times where I want to swat them both but what can you do? They're who they are and they can't help themselves of who they are when theres machines breathing down their necks.

I know... no matter how much Sarah would annoy the audience, she hasn't gotten to that point through my eyes. Sarah's fear is losing John or worse. I can see Sarah being alone at the end of this season. As long as Charley is around, he'll probably be the only thing Sarah has if he survives after this week's episode.

As for Headey's acting, there are some small scenes where... I dunno... they're okay, but on top of that, she's doing a great job carrying the show. I mean, wow...we're almost near the end of season 2.

I love Cromartie to return as the killer machine. Not so sure about Weaver...

As for Jesse. Hard to say really. Question is, did Derek really kill her? I say he simply let her go but hey, I could be wrong.

 

[Robdixxo]

Lena is hot so I don't really mind any scene she's in, good or bad .

Nice avy, Dr. Jones.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I disagree, that's my fav John so far. To each is own I guess. t:

I think T3's John Connor sucked as well. He came off as utterly irresponsible in the film. A person who tried to avoid his duties as much as possible until he had no choice at all and was forced to suck it up.

The awesomeness of Ahnuld, the T-X, and the ending really saved that film.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Sarah Conner really does bring the show down a bit. It's not Headey's performance, it's just the nature of the character. She's always so deep and introspective because she can never relax, which makes her sort of one-note. Derek's a consummate badass, John's got all kinds of emotional baggage going on and is slowly becoming a badass in his own right, Cameron's always an enigma, but Sarah is just trapped in her own Shakespearean tragedy. The mood definitely shifts down a few notches whenever she appears.

 

[KenK]

Do people realize that it's just Cromartie's body Weaver is using? It's a completely difference character now, and who knows how he'll turn out. While I agree the "John Henry" storyline is taking a very long time to develop, I don't think making him the killer cyborg that Cromartie was wouldn't make this more interesting. It would just be repetitive. I actually enjoy seeing this new character develop, essentially like an innocent child, in contrast to the methodical killer that used to inhabit this particular body.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm pretty sure everyone realizes that, but they just want Cromartie back for some reason. Personally, I haven't missed Cromartie one bit since he was destroyed.

 

[Golgo-13]

I think T3's John Connor sucked as well. He came off as utterly irresponsible in the film. A person who tried to avoid his duties as much as possible until he had no choice at all and was forced to suck it up.

The awesomeness of Ahnuld, the T-X, and the ending really saved that film.

Not only that but T3's version of JC came off like somewhat of a moron who had forgotten all that his mother had taught him, and was too dependant on Clair Danes character.......

On a side note: now that we know what we know after last ep, i'm wondering even if Shirley-nator had come across John in the present, face to face would she kill him? Killing Conner doesn't even seem to be on her agenda...at all, and if she was sent by future Skynet maybe by the 3 party of the war; the machines that have branched off from Skynets control.....

 

[KenK]

Don't get me wrong, I loved Cromartie, and thought he was a great recurring villain. He wasn't just a relentless killing machine, he was downright devious, and seemed to have a human-like awareness of his actions. There was clearly reason behind letting Ellison live at the end of the first season, and when he showed up at Charlie's wife's funeral, that was just creepy. But that's all in the past, and I'm not necessarily clamoring for the show to revisit it.

I've had to catch up on the last four episodes, and things have definitely started ramping up. Glad the Jesse/Riley storyline has wrapped up, and one of my favorite moments was John confronting Jesse in her hotel room. The whole "sitting in the dark with the gun pointed at her" was just so badass! But then Derek had his badass moment too, and it just played out wonderfully. And all of Cameron's "bird" moments were great.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Has anyone seen the trailer for this week's episode?

You can watch it here. I've watched it like about 10 times lol.

http://sarahconnorsociety.net/

"Its my fate...there's nothing I can do..."

 

[TheCorpulent1]

F***. Derek's gonna die.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Or worse, Charley