The Sarah Connor Chronicles

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Cameron is an actual person, and John gets to meet his dad and more than likely if there is a season 3 John doesn't just grow up but sees first hand the harsh realities of the world he is meant to save. I fully expect John if the show is picked up to go back to the past but the John who would go back would be a more hardened, more focused John.It would be a great season if they choose to go that route.

She was based on a captured resistance member. Most people forget about Allison Young and how Cameron(before reprogramming) snapped her neck

Why can't we get that in "Smallville"?
 
what still puzzles me is why Sarah let John go alone??
Her life is protecting him
she let him follow a terminator she doesnt trust, to go find another terminator she doesnt trust, TIME TRAVEL, which means likely, they wont see each other again (well ofcourse theuy will in the show) but wat are the chances
how could she let john go off alone
the future depends on him.
 
or his dad for that matter it would be an interesting scenario if they choose to go that route. I don't know if this is the future he's meant to save or just the time he's meant to send his dad back.Either way it would be an incredible story to tell.
 
At some point, John has to stop being dependent on her and make his own way. You can love someone and still let them make their perilous choices. He's going to be making enough of them if Judgment Day still occurs. John's faced his fair share of killer cyborgs before, so it's not like he's an idiot at this game. If anything, Sarah was being tactical. By letting John go after Cameron's chip with Weaver, Weaver can't progress whatever plan she had in the present (since it's still up in the air as to what her true intentions are) and Sarah can try and stop Judgment Day from their timeline. There's still the danger that stopping Judgment Day collapses the timeline John's in, but if she already put a stop to it I doubt he would have been able to enter this alternate future in the first place. There's some degree of destiny afoot.
 
Which i why I believe that in this future John won't some grunt on the frontlines but will somehow become the military Genius we've only heard him to be.
 
I think Sarah let John go because she still believes she can stop Judgment Day from ever happening. Plus, John's sole reason for going to the future was to retrieve Cameron's chip, and Sarah's never supported the relationship building between the two of them.
 
I think that pretty much sums it up. Sarah respected John's decision enough to not stop him, but that doesn't mean she's going to help him do something that she does not support. I take it that the way Sarah sees it, John is an adult now, and if he wants to go save the a girl that Sarah does not want to see him with, then that's his choice to make.

Ironically though, the fact that John transported to a post-apocalyptic future shows that at the very least, until he returns to 2009, anything Sarah does to prevent skynet from this point forward is going to be totally futile until John gets back. Argh! Time travel sure does mess with one's head.
 
You would think any half-decent show based on the Terminator series would be a sure fire hit. I guess people would rather watch American idol than cool sci-fi. A shame.

20 Million viewers weekly and the highest ad revenue on TV will alter a business strategy
 
Regardless, the basis of the show is still "robots from the future come back to kill Sarah/John Conner," so that should be reflected more than, like, 3 times per season. Even if it isn't, though, there should be more interesting storylines than "John/Derek has a girlfriend who's secretly a bad guy" or "Sarah's guilty over killing some dude." The stuff with Weaver took such a backseat when, after that future story with the sub, it became apparent that Weaver may actually be the most interesting character on the show. They should've done more with that instead of taking the entire season to even have Weaver and the Conners meet.

but they explain that away fairly quickly, like in the 2nd episode of season 1....that with the time jump, Skynet has sent Terminators back to make sure Skynet gets made or whatever....but will flip over to "kill Sarah/John Connor" if they are identified
 
One of the best episodes this season. I loved the fact that all the past sub-plots were knitted together. Maybe not in a nice little bow but still fitted together. I wonder what caused Future Cyborg Weaver to change her mind, go to the past and create an anti-Skynet? I'm thinking that Sarah didn't go to the future because meeting Kyle Reese would have jeopardize John's existence. Just ponder that for a second.
 
All I know is that I would've been alllll over Cameron the minute I found out she was a terminator that's designed to do whatever I want her to do. :D


And you know what? The John Connor from "T2" would've done the same. :)
 
It's kind of ironic that people associate Cameron with "being programmed to do whatever you want," considering that half the time the Connors tell her to do something, she does something else entirely... :p

Poor Cameron... She needs a hug. :(
 
I thought the ending was done well, especially if it isn't coming back on for another season. Honestly though, if they gave Prison Break 4 season they should give this a 3rd. I doubt it'll be that good but I know I'll enjoy it anyway. That fan made video rocked btw.
 
I'm still confused as to why people say that this finale was potentially a good series closer... Josh Friedman said the whole point of this finale was that it would leave fans demanding a third season, because it opens up so issues that need resolving and leaves the viewer asking so many questions. A good "potential series ender" would have been our heroes riding off into the sunset, but that's not what JF wanted. This ending is basically like this series' equivelent to Empire Strikes Back, and I don't think that there was any Star Wars fanboy in 1980 who said "You know, if Episode VI doesn't work out, Empire Strikes Back is still a great closer for the series."
 
wait.. i thought garbage redhead terminator ***** was a baddie?

she's good?
 
She was anti-skynet. She didn't want to annihilate humanity but wanted to co-exist. I wouldn't call her good by any means. She didn't have any problems killing humans throughout the season.
 
For the love of god, it's Sarah ConnOr, not Conner!!! :cmad:

Sorry, but that almost as annoying as people saying Rouge instead of Rogue.
lol these are names at least, so people can make mistakes. It's not as bad as having some who can't spell words like TONGUE, for example, before SM3 came out, everyone reffered to Venom's tongue as TOUNGE! Really annoying.

She was anti-skynet. She didn't want to annihilate humanity but wanted to co-exist. I wouldn't call her good by any means. She didn't have any problems killing humans throughout the season.
The T-800 from T2 didn't have any problems killing humans either, until John told him not to. Cameron wouldn't have any problems with it either, but she was programmed to follow John's orders.
 
Weaver is a machine. The people she's killed were all killed as part of a calculation. When she slaughtered the workforce of desert air and cooling, she did it because she decided it was better to kill them all then to allow them to contribute to Skynet. I wouldn't call her bad so much as "ethically ambiguous."
 
The T-800 from T2 didn't have any problems killing humans either, until John told him not to. Cameron wouldn't have any problems with it either, but she was programmed to follow John's orders.

True. I wouldn't call the T2 good either. The machines true nature is to kill humans. Reese stated that they couldn't be reasoned with in T1 and the same model that killed his father just happened to be reprogrammed to protect him in T2. Hell in T3, not just the same model but the exact same unit that killed John Connor was reprogrammed to protect him in the past. Cameron even in this last ep said that deep down she wanted to kill John. I don't see your point.

Weaver is a machine. The people she's killed were all killed as part of a calculation. When she slaughtered the workforce of desert air and cooling, she did it because she decided it was better to kill them all then to allow them to contribute to Skynet. I wouldn't call her bad so much as "ethically ambiguous."

I could go w/ this description if they didn't go out of their way to tie her to the T-X from the submarine. She killed that female sailor for no reason.
 
Well, like Cameron said, all Terminators live up to their name on some level. Weaver simply has no regard for human life except in certain, very specific cases. She wanted Savannah to stay alive because she was learning about humanity through her. She needs John Connor to stay alive for the same reason as everyone else who doesn't want to be enslaved to Skynet does. But random sailor chick? The dudes at her company who got slack on security? They mean nothing to her so killing them means nothing to her, either. She's an anti-hero--she has the same goals as the main hero but doesn't follow any sort of honor code in her means toward achieving those goals.
 
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