The Squared Circle

[kane9321]

felt bad for tommy dreamer lastnite...he didnt have a chance

I want cena to lose the belt..not just to that piece of crap orton

 

[LastSunrise1981]

If it wasn't for kids, Hogan and guys Bret Hart would be out of the job. Hell, the attitude era was caused partly by kids when they started dropping the f-bomb everywhere.

You just hate Cena, dude he will drop the belt eventually I mean just be patient lol.

The difference is guys like Hogan, Bret Hart, The Rock, Stone Cold, and HBK they were entertaining in their performing. Granted Hogan wasn't great when it came to actual wrestling, however, he was very exciting and he brought a sense of emotionality to the matches.

The arena always exploded when he would "Hulk Up" and make his comeback.

Cena does work hard and busts his ass in his matches. The fans are just tired of him and want something new and fresh. It also doesn't help that he's been made into this "overcoming the odds" character and it doesn't work for him.

Cena needs to turn heel or become a tweener of some sort.

 

[nite-owl]

Source - PWInsider

WWE has officially announced that they have signed Ring of Honor/Wrestling Society X star Matt Sydal. There is no word on when he is expected to report to their developmental territory however he is expected to fulfill his contractual obligations.

Sydal has been a very hot commodity since the demise of WSX. Both TNA and ROH have made negations with him.

He won't be able to do the shooting star press anymore but good luck ether way Matt.

 

[PyroChamber]

Don't know if anyone cares but I found this...

"There is talk that Extreme Expose may all share Playboy leading up to next year's WrestleMania."

Source: F4Wonline.com

 

[ck51100]

"There is talk that Extreme Expose may all share Playboy leading up to next year's WrestleMania."

Source: F4Wonline.com

Brooke, Kelly, and Layla? My head might explode.

 

[kane9321]

Don't know if anyone cares but I found this...

t:

 

[Twitch]

The difference is guys like Hogan, Bret Hart, The Rock, Stone Cold, and HBK they were entertaining in their performing. Granted Hogan wasn't great when it came to actual wrestling, however, he was very exciting and he brought a sense of emotionality to the matches.

The arena always exploded when he would "Hulk Up" and make his comeback.

Cena does work hard and busts his ass in his matches. The fans are just tired of him and want something new and fresh. It also doesn't help that he's been made into this "overcoming the odds" character and it doesn't work for him.

Cena needs to turn heel or become a tweener of some sort.

While I don't agree with you on the fans part, I do slightly agree with the "overcoming the odds" thing. (Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't) I'm pretty sure Orton is going to win at SummerSlam or within the next six months. Then Cena will be able to refresh, while HHH feuds with Orton.

 

[The Apocalypse]

After beating Booker T, Triple H should just run into the Main Event and win the title. If you wanna do bad booking, like it usually is, they might as well do that.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

While I don't agree with you on the fans part, I do slightly agree with the "overcoming the odds" thing. (Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't) I'm pretty sure Orton is going to win at SummerSlam or within the next six months. Then Cena will be able to refresh, while HHH feuds with Orton.

Okay, maybe some fans aren't tired of Cena. But quite a few are tired of the act and want him to lose the belt. I don't know if fans are really tired of HIM by any means, I feel that fans are tired of his gimmick and feel it doesn't suit his character anymore.

I do believe Shawn Michaels said it best in his book "Fans tend to love you more when you're a heel/tweener". Those weren't his exact words, but he said that when you're a heel/tweener fans tend to like you more. So if the WWE hadn't shoved the whole "overcoming the odds" thing down everyones throat I'm sure Cena wouldn't have become so stale.

 

[Twitch]

Okay, maybe some fans aren't tired of Cena. But quite a few are tired of the act and want him to lose the belt. I don't know if fans are really tired of HIM by any means, I feel that fans are tired of his gimmick and feel it doesn't suit his character anymore.

I do believe Shawn Michaels said it best in his book "Fans tend to love you more when you're a heel/tweener". Those weren't his exact words, but he said that when you're a heel/tweener fans tend to like you more. So if the WWE hadn't shoved the whole "overcoming the odds" thing down everyones throat I'm sure Cena wouldn't have become so stale.

You make a great point. But what can he change about his gimmick? He's gone way beyond the white rapper thing and morphed into a simple All-American babyface. I do agree if he hadn't felt so forced when he first got the belt (the moves of doom, catchphrases etc.) and have been more natural he wouldn't feel so stale to a lot of fans.

 

[Max J Power]

Source - PWInsider

WWE has officially announced that they have signed Ring of Honor/Wrestling Society X star Matt Sydal. There is no word on when he is expected to report to their developmental territory however he is expected to fulfill his contractual obligations.

Sydal has been a very hot commodity since the demise of WSX. Both TNA and ROH have made negations with him.

He won't be able to do the shooting star press anymore but good luck ether way Matt.

I hope he doesn't end up as a cruiserweight jobber.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I just saw RAW, that has to be one of the worst lead in shows ive ever seen.

• The opening promo between Cena and Orton was ruined by Vince, as was much of the evening.

• The dinner date skit was mind numbingly dull.

• The decent tag match was ruined by Cryme Time and their stale gimmick.

• The womens match was ok but to short

• Bookers segment went on forever and was just a retread, i agree with Spoons, not using the Game on TV has left the feud heatless, especially since HHH isn't defined by being a King and won't really use the gimmick they are fighting over, the way Booker does.

• Cena, as good as he is couldn't carry Snitzky, the guy is a complete choad and not worth any airtime, the double RKO was ok even if the first was fluffed, the feud though has failed to build up much heat since it's never had a chance to just be about Cena/Orton and has constantly had to share time with Carlito, Umaga, Vince etc..

• Carlito/Kennedy was the only bright spot on the show IMO.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Source: PWTorch Hotline

Sources indicated that Vince McMahon was a little upset with the general reaction Snitsky got on Raw Monday. Vince thought Snitsky was more over than he was and when he announced Cena vs Snitsky he was a little taken back by the lack of reaction.

Vince should just realise that Snitzky blows and cut his losses, he'll no doubt try to blame it on ppl remembering Snitzky as the toe sniffing, Backne freak with the weird beard from 2005 and so can't accept him as a monster but that's BS, Big Daddy V has become a credible monster overnight despite being a pajama wearing heat jobber for over 2 years.

 

[DOG LIPS]

Poor Snitsky. Oh well, he can always be a stripper.

 

[AndThePickles]

Bwahaha. I can't stand Snitsky!

 

[Carp Man]

BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHA. Vince has no balls. I love it. Balls may be his son ? t: Balls or Eugene ? Take your choice. t:

 

[Carp Man]

I just saw RAW, that has to be one of the worst lead in shows ive ever seen.

• The opening promo between Cena and Orton was ruined by Vince, as was much of the evening.

• The dinner date skit was mind numbingly dull.

• The decent tag match was ruined by Cryme Time and their stale gimmick.

• The womens match was ok but to short

• Bookers segment went on forever and was just a retread, i agree with Spoons, not using the Game on TV has left the feud heatless, especially since HHH isn't defined by being a King and won't really use the gimmick they are fighting over, the way Booker does.

• Cena, as good as he is couldn't carry Snitzky, the guy is a complete choad and not worth any airtime, the double RKO was ok even if the first was fluffed, the feud though has failed to build up much heat since it's never had a chance to just be about Cena/Orton and has constantly had to share time with Carlito, Umaga, Vince etc..

• Carlito/Kennedy was the only bright spot on the show IMO.

Where the hell you been ? In a cave ? It's been going downhill, and getting worse. People are finally beginning to see that. No competition = GARBAGE. Wake up people. Vince is an island unto himself. There's no real competition for the viewing fans from a wrestling point of view.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Where the hell you been ? In a cave ? It's been going downhill, and getting worse. People are finally beginning to see that. No competition = GARBAGE. Wake up people. Vince is an island unto himself. There's no real competition for the viewing fans from a wrestling point of view.

 

[Carp Man]

Bwahaha. I can't stand Snitsky!

Snitsky is a board certified STIFF.

 

[caretaker14]

After beating Booker T, Triple H should just run into the Main Event and win the title. If you wanna do bad booking, like it usually is, they might as well do that.

Wrestlemania 9, anyone?

We've already got the talentless giant...

 

[Carp Man]

Wrestlemania 9, anyone?

We've already got the talentless giant...

You mean Giant Gonzalez ? t: The Great Khali ? Snitsky ? Their cut from the same cloth. I remember Jerry "The King" at halloween time, said "Gene Snitsky looked like a halloween mask with legs".

 

[ToddIsDead]

Didn't the Giant Gonzalez wear a skin-tone body suit with muscle definition painted on?

 

[Carp Man]

Didn't the Giant Gonzalez wear a skin-tone body suit with muscle definition painted on?

Yep.

 

[Twitch]

Sounds about right.

 

[Carp Man]

It's plain to see from the ghastly costume that the 7' 6" Jorge Gonzales was a complete and utter joke! (I mean what's with the painted on muscles?). The story of Gonzales' wrestling career began in the early 90's with WCW. These were the days when bigger meant better and WCW felt they could mold Gonzales (a basketball player by trade) into an instant star. He originally debuted as "El Gigante" and every attempt was made by the front office boys to promote Gonzales as a legitimate big man. It took WCW three long years to realize that their ongoing efforts to push Gonzales were to no avail, he simply possessed no wrestling ability, and was not improving. With this realization came Gonzales' release, which seemed to be the end of a lackluster career.

But wait! Someone didn't tell Vince McMahon of Gonzales' inferior worth. Like a trooper, McMahon decided to ignore impending doom and sign Gonzales to a contract early in 1993. He was billed as "Giant Gonzales" and made a triumphant debut in the Royal Rumble, where he eliminated the immensely popular Undertaker. With this win, Gonzales was to meet The Dead-Man at the gala of sports entertainment, Wrestlemania.

But it was not to be, Gonzales let his awful ability shine through, even the talented Undertaker could not make the incapable Giant look legit. The match was just plain bad, ending in a count out loss for Gonzales. At this point McMahon could not deny that Gonzales' heart really wasn't in wrestling (can't blame him really, I mean being treated as a freak attraction can't be good for the ol' self-esteem). By September "Giant's" brief WWF stint was over, along with his contract. After some less than brilliant stops in Japan Gonzales' wrestling career was finished for good, but not before making a name for himself as one of the worst wrestlers of all time in the hearts of wrestling fans everywhere!

Good old Vince.