The Squared Circle

[Colossal Spoons]

I have always liked Taker but part of me wants him to cut the hair again and go back to the evil biker gimmick

Ew no

 

[Colossal Spoons]

How is HHH getting blamed for so much around here? You'd think some of you were at the meetings where future angles were planned

Yes, he is Steph's husband and has a lot of say in what goes on politically but he is also a wrestler. Cena/Orton/HHH sounds like a great match to me as they're 3 huge names. Since when is 3 wrestlers not better than 2?

 

[Fading]

How is HHH getting blamed for so much around here? You'd think some of you were at the meetings where future angles were planned

I'm not sure about the others, but I use the magic 8 ball method, and everytime I ask it "Is HHH responsible for X getting buried" it replies "All signs point to yes". You can't argue with results like that.

 

[Fading]

Since when is 3 wrestlers not better than 2?

It depends on the match. In a TLC match a triple threat is always better, the more bodies going thru tables and falling off ladders the better.

A WM ME classic, not so much. One guy always ends up being the odd man out and spends more time lying outside of the ring than inside, and it basically turns into a 2 man alternating match with one guy almost tripping over the others. 2 wrestlers in a ME quality match like that, IMO, will always be far better than a 3 man match.

Edit - Posted this before I read last page. I agree a triple threat with Orton in it would be superior to Cena vs. HHH 2.

 

[bullets]

I don't think WWE cares if the good guy gets cheered or the bad guy gets booed, or else they wouldn't allow HHH/Cena 2 when the crowd will most likely boo Cena and cheer HHH.

If the ambiguity bothered them so much, they would've turned Cena heel by now.

Actually Cena may have a percentage of the audience booing him but the kids and most women like him and that demographic sells Dvds featuring cena , buyrates , and merchandising . Cena is making alot of money for the company , Otherwise they would of turned him heel , face , heel ,tweener by now .

Triple H has been the sucessor to the title and Cena 's position after he was injured , Im sure Cena 's return has bothered Triple H and now the tables have turned . Honestly it should of been Triple H vs Orton or Cena vs. Orton .

 

[The Sage]

How is HHH getting blamed for so much around here? You'd think some of you were at the meetings where future angles were planned

Yes, he is Steph's husband and has a lot of say in what goes on politically but he is also a wrestler. Cena/Orton/HHH sounds like a great match to me as they're 3 huge names. Since when is 3 wrestlers not better than 2?

I think when he's obviously being forced into the Wrestlemania main-event that it's a sign of politicking. Cena/Orton could do well on its own.

 

[Mr. Socko]

I have always liked Taker but part of me wants him to cut the hair again and go back to the evil biker gimmick

Big Evil is just as awesome as he was a decade ago, talk about a guy who's only gotten better after all these years.

The Biker gimmick was cool, and can you believe it only lasted about 3-4 years out of his entire career? I miss the Biker 'Taker sometimes but I like the Dead Man too much. If there's one thing I really miss, it's Bearer by his side.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I think when he's obviously being forced into the Wrestlemania main-event that it's a sign of politicking. Cena/Orton could do well on its own.

Cuz it's totally impossible that Vince or some other higher-up wanted HHH in the main event? I just don't get the "blame HHH for everything" fad lately.

I hope he wins the belt and holds it for 5 years, just to give you guys something factual and concrete to complain about

 

[Hunter Rider]

For some reason I feel that this is an indirect result of Jericho's return.

It did seem that the rumblings of him getting very political again started around then.

It seems like his prominence died down for a while, but sometimes you can just feel the cockiness and power he has. I don't know how to feel about HHH sometimes.

I know, perhaps some of it is b/c we know his power and it comes off that way even if it isn't what is happening.

Let's be honest here and I said this a million times. HHH hasn't changed one bit as he can't allow himself to stay away from the championship for good long while. Granted I've always said I wish HHH would bury Cena, but in the end, as much as I don't like Cena, I don't want to see him get buried in any fashion after seeing how hard he's worked.

HHH hasn't been champion for 3 years unless you count that 2 hours last October.

I say move Jeff Hardy, Kennedy, Jericho, and Orton to Smackdown seeing as they'll never be on top with HHH, Cena, and HBK on the show. But that's just my opinion.

But there'd be no one for HBK, HHH and Cena to wrestle if they moved all those guys, unless they moved MVP and Edge the other way.

How is HHH getting blamed for so much around here? You'd think some of you were at the meetings where future angles were planned

Yes, he is Steph's husband and has a lot of say in what goes on politically but he is also a wrestler. Cena/Orton/HHH sounds like a great match to me as they're 3 huge names. Since when is 3 wrestlers not better than 2?

Savage vs Hogan, Warrior vs Hogan, Bret vs Shawn, Shawn vs Austin, Austin vs Rock, HHH vs Cena, Cena vs HBK.....see the pattern ? only one time has a triple threat happened and that was at WM20 b/c Vince didn't think Benoit was a big enough star so he added HBK. Cena vs Orton would be a far superior match than any triple threat, triple threats are just spot fests, bell to bell "you do a move i'll do a move" matches, fine for a regular PPV and great for a #1 contenders match or IC title match but not for the really huge PPV's as the ME.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Cuz it's totally impossible that Vince or some other higher-up wanted HHH in the main event? I just don't get the "blame HHH for everything" fad lately.

Since when did i ever blame him ? Come on Spoons, it's kinda obvious what has happened here.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

Cuz it's totally impossible that Vince or some other higher-up wanted HHH in the main event? I just don't get the "blame HHH for everything" fad lately.

I hope he wins the belt and holds it for 5 years, just to give you guys something factual and concrete to complain about

But seriously, I 2nd this motion.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Seriously, HHH is a more entertaining champ then Orton and Cena. Rather see him kick both their asses. Whether or not he is 'politicking' he is better then both of them and as of now deserves the title. The only one that deserves it more is Hardy, and it looks like that isn't happening.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[LastSunrise1981]

It did seem that the rumblings of him getting very political again started around then.



I know, perhaps some of it is b/c we know his power and it comes off that way even if it isn't what is happening.



HHH hasn't been champion for 3 years unless you count that 2 hours last October.




But there'd be no one for HBK, HHH and Cena to wrestle if they moved all those guys, unless they moved MVP and Edge the other way.

Savage vs Hogan, Warrior vs Hogan, Bret vs Shawn, Shawn vs Austin, Austin vs Rock, HHH vs Cena, Cena vs HBK.....see the pattern ? only one time has a triple threat happened and that was at WM20 b/c Vince didn't think Benoit was a big enough star so he added HBK. Cena vs Orton would be a far superior match than any triple threat, triple threats are just spot fests, bell to bell "you do a move i'll do a move" matches, fine for a regular PPV and great for a #1 contenders match or IC title match but not for the really huge PPV's as the ME.

Eh, good point. It would be bad for either show if HBK, HHH, and Cena had no one to wrestle. Truthfully I can't see any future star doing anything with HHH still using his politics to stay on top. As you already stated before, we know Cena has to have some political power, seeing as he's their top star who draws a ****load of money, sells merchandise, and so forth. So maybe he should politic to keep HHH out of the main event?

Remember when Edge used his power to be moved to Smackdown? H tried burying him as well and wanted to feud with him, in which Edge declined the storyline and got himself moved to Smackdown. I realize H hasn't had the title for the last three years, however, it's still obvious that it was a front because he knew fans were just waiting for it to happen. And let's be honest here Hunter, we all know it's going to happen again, so they should just stop beating around the bush and give him the title already.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Seriously, HHH is a more entertaining champ then Orton and Cena. Rather see him kick both their asses. Whether or not he is 'politicking' he is better then both of them and as of now deserves the title. The only one that deserves it more is Hardy, and it looks like that isn't happening.

Triple H in 2000-2003 would be better than Cena or Orton. But right now he's not as red hot as Cena and Orton are. The problem is we've already seen every H character that there is to see. He's stale as a face and his heel character is stale as well, hence why he should continue to elevate talent and not be so egotistical.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Well then we can give the title to Cena who has been out and comes back as the 30th spot in the Rumble and justs wins it. How him come out every week and say how glad he is he's getting booed and cheered, pound his chest after every 5 punches he throws, and then yell out 'want some come get some'. Yeah, I rather see him as champ for another year.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Well then we can give the title to Cena who has been out and comes back as the 30th spot in the Rumble and justs wins it. How him come out every week and say how glad he is he's getting booed and cheered, pound his chest after every 5 punches he throws, and then yell out 'want some come get some'. Yeah, I rather see him as champ for another year.

I honestly don't want to see Cena as champion. I was enjoying the Hardy/Orton feud as it made me interested in wrestling again, and even Hunter will tell you, I was more pissed off to see Cena win the Rumble and get title shot after being out of action.

But whether we like it or not, Cena is the future of the WWE and he's not going anywhere for a long time. I think what will help Cena is if the WWE turned him into an annoying smartass heel, as he has that look and showcased it after he beat Triple H at Wrestlemania. Personally I'd rather see Orton, Hardy, Kennedy, and possibly Punk feud over the championship before Cena or H.

 

[The Sage]

Cuz it's totally impossible that Vince or some other higher-up wanted HHH in the main event? I just don't get the "blame HHH for everything" fad lately.

I hope he wins the belt and holds it for 5 years, just to give you guys something factual and concrete to complain about

Dawg, just look at how the events have played out, starting with HHH's forced entry into the Rumble match the pulling back of Orton/Cena to No Way Out.

I hope Batista starts sucking again so you can look a clown supporting him.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Is there any news on when Bret is going to release his book in the US? I always go to Waldens Bookstore hoping to see it.

 

[The Apocalypse]

I honestly don't want to see Cena as champion. I was enjoying the Hardy/Orton feud as it made me interested in wrestling again, and even Hunter will tell you, I was more pissed off to see Cena win the Rumble and get title shot after being out of action.

But whether we like it or not, Cena is the future of the WWE and he's not going anywhere for a long time. I think what will help Cena is if the WWE turned him into an annoying smartass heel, as he has that look and showcased it after he beat Triple H at Wrestlemania. Personally I'd rather see Orton, Hardy, Kennedy, and possibly Punk feud over the championship before Cena or H.

1. Same here to be honest.

2. Yeah sadly he isn't going anywhere for a long time, but he needs to prove himself to a lot of people because WWE is pushing him to be this GIANT babyface when people still hate him. Having him win the title is going to get him more heat, and keeping it on him for a long long time is going to give him more heat from that. They need to find him something to do that would get people more interested in him or something that will gain him more respect. That's just my opinion and I know a lot of people think he doesn't need to prove himself anymore.

 

[The Sage]

Triple H in 2000-2003 would be better than Cena or Orton. But right now he's not as red hot as Cena and Orton are. The problem is we've already seen every H character that there is to see. He's stale as a face and his heel character is stale as well, hence why he should continue to elevate talent and not be so egotistical.

Triple 2002-2003 was a snorefest in my opinion. But other than that I agree with your post.

Seriously, HHH is a more entertaining champ then Orton and Cena. Rather see him kick both their asses. Whether or not he is 'politicking' he is better then both of them and as of now deserves the title. The only one that deserves it more is Hardy, and it looks like that isn't happening.

I disagree. HHH has run his course a heel for the time being, and as a face he's not really setting the world on fire. He's not even the top star on RAW--Cena and Orton demonstrated that on Monday when the crowd interrupted during their segment.

 

[The Sage]

2. Yeah sadly he isn't going anywhere for a long time, but he needs to prove himself to a lot of people because WWE is pushing him to be this GIANT babyface when people still hate him. Having him win the title is going to get him more heat, and keeping it on him for a long long time is going to give him more heat from that. They need to find him something to do that would get people more interested in him or something that will gain him more respect. That's just my opinion and I know a lot of people think he doesn't need to prove himself anymore.

If people weren't interested in Cena, he wouldn't be getting the reactions he's been getting, mixed or not.

 

[Mario_Galaxy]

Cuz it's totally impossible that Vince or some other higher-up wanted HHH in the main event? I just don't get the "blame HHH for everything" fad lately.

I hope he wins the belt and holds it for 5 years, just to give you guys something factual and concrete to complain about

Dude, where the hell have you been? HHHate is nothing new.

 

[Genesis 1.0]

Dude, where the hell have you been? HHHate is nothing new.

He didn't say it was. His exact word was 'lately'.

Anti_Hunter items ebb and flow, they surge and then die down again. We just happen to be in high tide at the moment.

 

[thejon93]

The plan right now is for John Cena to wrestle Triple H for the WWE Championship at WrestleMania, which means Cena is winning the title from Randy Orton at No Way Out, which takes place on February 17 at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas. There have also been talks of doing a three-way match at WrestleMania between Cena, Triple H and Orton. Either way, Triple H and Cena are definitely going to be in the title match.

Well, personally I'm liking RAW's WrestleMania 24 Main Event better then SmackDown's because SmackDown's consists of either Edge vs. Batista or Edge vs. The Undertaker(and we all know how that's going to turn out).