The Squared Circle

[Max J Power]

I'm almost willing to put money towards this if they were cheaper.

When my friends and I order PPVs, we get webcasts for $20 rather than the $40 TV broadcasts.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Well, personally I'm liking RAW's WrestleMania 24 Main Event better then SmackDown's because SmackDown's consists of either Edge vs. Batista or Edge vs. The Undertaker(and we all know how that's going to turn out).

Edge vs. Taker would be much more fresh and interesting than Trips vs. Cena or Trips vs. Cena vs. Orton.

 

[Lobo]

If Edge beats Taker at Mania I will celebrate.

 

[bullets]

I think it is time for Undertaker to lose the streak .

 

[thejon93]

Edge vs. Taker would be much more fresh and interesting than Trips vs. Cena or Trips vs. Cena vs. Orton.

Yeah, I guess your right it's just that I'm starting to get sick of SmackDown's Championship contenders, I think that SmackDown needs to get a couple of middle-event superstars like: Finlay, Matt Hardy, etc. to heat up the championship competition a bit.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Eh, good point. It would be bad for either show if HBK, HHH, and Cena had no one to wrestle. Truthfully I can't see any future star doing anything with HHH still using his politics to stay on top. As you already stated before, we know Cena has to have some political power, seeing as he's their top star who draws a ****load of money, sells merchandise, and so forth. So maybe he should politic to keep HHH out of the main event?

Remember when Edge used his power to be moved to Smackdown? H tried burying him as well and wanted to feud with him, in which Edge declined the storyline and got himself moved to Smackdown. I realize H hasn't had the title for the last three years, however, it's still obvious that it was a front because he knew fans were just waiting for it to happen. And let's be honest here Hunter, we all know it's going to happen again, so they should just stop beating around the bush and give him the title already.

I wish Cena would be so far he has kept put of that thing and i guess like The Rock has never felt the need to as no political moves have effected him.

Edge did well for himself but he only got the move b/c Kennedy got hurt and HHH could no longer make a case for Edge staying, if you recall HHH made sure Edge jobbed clean on his last RAW appearance.

Inevitable ? You're probably right but for a bit i had thought things were changing.

Triple 2002-2003 was a snorefest in my opinion. But other than that I agree with your post.

I disagree. HHH has run his course a heel for the time being, and as a face he's not really setting the world on fire. He's not even the top star on RAW--Cena and Orton demonstrated that on Monday when the crowd interrupted during their segment.

In fairness to HHH he had some sucky opponents in that period.

Agreed, Cena/Orton was molten on RAW and clearly the match fans are primed for, HHH right now should do what Shawn does and work the upper mid card.

Edge vs. Taker would be much more fresh and interesting than Trips vs. Cena or Trips vs. Cena vs. Orton.

It should be a great match, i only worry about the ending being the same old same old.

 

[The Professor]

Agreed, Cena/Orton was molten on RAW and clearly the match fans are primed for, HHH right now should do what Shawn does and work the upper mid card.

Except we know who will go over...

Remember HHH/Umaga? Although I don't really care much for Umaga, I think that feud hurt a lot of his character's credibility. It seemed to do little for Trips, too.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah but that was after Umaga was on the steroids list. He's lucky to still have a job and prolific role with the company he does.

And he had two solid title runs in 2007 and got to be a big part of WM. I think what hurt Umaga was losing Armando, who was a great mouthpiece for the charcter.

 

[BlackLantern]

if Matt Stryker stays in his managerial role and gets some more guys behind him I feel he can become a Heenan level manager

 

[Sarge 2.0]

I wish Cena would be so far he has kept put of that thing and i guess like The Rock has never felt the need to as no political moves have effected him.

Edge did well for himself but he only got the move b/c Kennedy got hurt and HHH could no longer make a case for Edge staying, if you recall HHH made sure Edge jobbed clean on his last RAW appearance.

Inevitable ? You're probably right but for a bit i had thought things were changing.



In fairness to HHH he had some sucky opponents in that period.

Agreed, Cena/Orton was molten on RAW and clearly the match fans are primed for, HHH right now should do what Shawn does and work the upper mid card.



It should be a great match, i only worry about the ending being the same old same old.

For some reason, I'm not really worried about that to be honest. I can't say way, it's just a feeling I have. I think it's the right time, and Taker knows it.

 

[cabel]

Warrior 'Warrior' Warrior has a video blog up

http://www.ultimatewarrior.com/Pages/testvideo.html

 

[Hunter Rider]

Except we know who will go over...

Remember HHH/Umaga? Although I don't really care much for Umaga, I think that feud hurt a lot of his character's credibility. It seemed to do little for Trips, too.

Well having HHH going over in mid card is preferable to having him go over in the ME IMO, at last he wont be champion, small mercies i guess.

For some reason, I'm not really worried about that to be honest. I can't say way, it's just a feeling I have. I think it's the right time, and Taker knows it.

I am not sure.....maybe, and i do think Taker would not object but who knows who else may, which leaves open how to close the show...Edge over Taker cannot close a Mania and Taker over Edge is to formulaic to close, then any result from the Triple threat is a pretty lackluster finish.....Hopefully Flair/HBK will go on last and they wont make the error they did when they didn't put Hogan/Rock on last and the crowd was dead for HHH/Jericho.

 

[thejon93]

If Randy Orton loses the title at No Way Out then I'd like to see him take on a returning Matt Hardy at WrestleMania 24 and maybe have Orton jump back to SmackDown to reform Team Rated R.K.O. with Edge to get the WWE Tag Titles back to SmackDown from Miz and Morrison.

 

[Hunter Rider]

So i just caught up on a bit of ECW, saw both of Kofi Kingston's matches. I like him, he seems a great athlete and has a lot of ring charisma.

The first match was a bit bleh but he was in there with a choad who was slow as hell in his reactions, second match was a slight step up but still, they need to get him in with top pro jobbers like Nunzio and Stevie so that he can really shine with that interesting offense, he needs a new finisher as well, that kick looks weaker than Punk's basic front kicks.

 

[punishermax]

Cena Nuff?
01/29/2008 by Scott Hudson

John Cena is over. There - I said it. I said it without regurgitating, bazooka barfing or driving the proverbial porcelain Trailways. The reaction he received at the 2008 Royal Rumble was, with all apologies to Ludvig, deafening. No matter your opinion of John Cena (mine is so low is has to be measured with a septic tank depth finder), one has to admire his guts in returning at least two months early from what was said to be a severe injury as well as his “it-factor.” That intangible that makes people pop when they see his chiseled visage even though they later boo him like Osama at the VFW cookout.

There are those in the wrestling community (from the densest marks to the highest floors of WWE Towers) who are making comparisons between John Cena and The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin and (gasp!) Hulk Hogan. These are people who do not know the difference between a ring rope and a ringworm.

Cena is certainly over but his popularity is tempered by relativity. In short, John Cena is the most popular talent in the WWE which is two-thirds as popular as it was in 2004. That’s akin the being the greatest hockey player in the history of Trinidad and Tobago. I’ll grant that over the last few months, the WWE’s business has been trending upward but there can be no question that the precipitous path the WWE was taking from 2004 through 2007 was trending downward. I have no idea what saved it but, it appeared to hit bottom and bounce late last year.

And therein lies the rub.

The WWE is stuck in a pickle wrapped in a conundrum. Do they keep building around Cena who moves merch and gets decent buy rates and ratings or do they take a chance on pushing someone else who may take the company to an extreme in either direction? Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t, right? But lets leave Kevin Sullivan out of this.

What do Randy Orton and John Cena have in common? They look alike. Not twins-alike but both are ripped (not monstruous) white guys with buzz cuts. Jesus, why does this look always equate to decreased business? As much as I liked the guys, the Natural Born Thrillas did not draw money in WCW. Bald is one thing, but a buzz cut and ripped abs really only works when you are the only one who looks like that. Let the guys develop personalities and looks that separate them from the rest of the pack. At least Edge has long hair.

If I may, lets take an unfiltered look at the options the WWE has if John Cena has reached critical mass and a new StoneHulkColdRockAustinHogan needs to be groomed.

Mr Kennedy: Many pluses, especially his promo ability. Confidence at the mic is 90% of a great promo and this guy oozes it. His ring work, however, is only average. But then again, no one ever accused The Rock of working like Jushin Liger.

Randy Orton: His upside is he is above average on promos and above average in the ring. His downside is that he is an Ultimate Warrior-style headcase waiting to happen. Orton has had almost as many suspensions as Test has had dressing room girlfriends. Do you want to trust the very tip-top spot in the company to a guy like that?

Edge: Horrible promos. Great work. A walking dichotomy. Maybe if he had a manager. Say, whatever happened to Lita? Oh, and great hair.

Jeff Hardy: See Randy Orton. Stir in a quarter cup of “personal demons” and bake.

Santino Marella: No-a super-a-star-a will-a ever-a get-a over-a and-a draw-a house-a if-a the-a close-a caption-a-ing-a guy-a gets-a carpel-a tunnel-a syn-a-drome-a during-a two- a minute-a promo-a.. The Ultimate Warrior may be the exception to this rule, however. (Note to Vince McMahon, if a guy needs subtitles for his interviews, don’t build around him.) But, the guy is cutting the best promos in the WWE right now and his work (what we have seen of it) is fine.

MVP: First, get rid of this stupid, stupid name. The guy has charisma on the mic and in the ring and has proven that he can be carried to a **** match. In just a short time, I think he will be able to carry someone to a **** match. Just get a new name!

Carlito: Who did this guy piss off?

Who is the next StoneHulkColdRockAustinHogan? Could be one of these guys but we will never know as long as “Mr. 3.1" leads the charge. Remember, if you always want what you’ve always had, keep doing what you’ve always done.




This article proves the point that Scott Hudson knows nothing about wrestling.

 

[BlackLantern]

scott hudson is a poor mans' don west....and thats pretty poor from where I sit

 

[thejon93]

So i just caught up on a bit of ECW, saw both of Kofi Kingston's matches. I like him, he seems a great athlete and has a lot of ring charisma.

The first match was a bit bleh but he was in there with a choad who was slow as hell in his reactions, second match was a slight step up but still, they need to get him in with top pro jobbers like Nunzio and Stevie so that he can really shine with that interesting offense, he needs a new finisher as well, that kick looks weaker than Punk's basic front kicks.

Yeah, I hope they don`t make him one of those superstars that start lacking once they reach greater competition because I see potential for this guy but like you said, that kick he does is kinda lame. In his second match it was like some sorta kick to the gut and it looked just so weak, I haven`t seen his first match but this second one really impressed me.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Is this the same Scott Hudson that used to oil Tony Schiavone's balls on Nitro in the death days ?

That article is some of the worst writing on the business Ive ever seen, and before anyone says, no not b/c he dissed Cena, i am sure some will agree with his view on him and some will also point out the "worlds tallest midget" mentality of his comparison with the Rock and the period of business, of course there is a flip argument for that as a i made it for HBK.....but that is for another time.

His stuff on Edge and MVP in particular is moronic, Edge a poor promo ? MVP needs to be carried and a new name ? b/c yeah 3 letter acronym names have never been good for top guys........HBK........Y2J......DDP..........

Orton and Cena are the same and need to find personalities ? Kennedy's work in the ring is average ?....i'd say his matches with HBK prove otherwise, just like Cena did with HBK, Kennedy held his own.

This guy really needs to never write another column.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Yeah, I hope they don`t make him one of those superstars that start lacking once they reach greater competition because I see potential for this guy but like you said, that kick he does is kinda lame. In his second match it was like some sorta kick to the gut and it looked just so weak, I haven`t seen his first match but this second one really impressed me.

Hopefully he can talk, he has charisma and will excite in the ring but if he can't talk he'll have problems, Kennedy is a prime example of getting over while being mostly mouth, since then he has improved drastically and found a finishing move. They need to throw a vet onto ECW for Kofi to work a few shows with.

 

[BlackLantern]

yes it is that Scott Hudson....most of the column seemed like regular IWC garbage but then I read the MVP part and I nearly laughed myself to death

 

[punishermax]

Is this the same Scott Hudson that used to oil Tony Schiavone's balls on Nitro in the death days ?

That article is some of the worst writing on the business Ive ever seen, and before anyone says, no not b/c he dissed Cena, i am sure some will agree with his view on him and some will also point out the "worlds tallest midget" mentality of his comparison with the Rock and the period of business, of course there is a flip argument for that as a i made it for HBK.....but that is for another time.

His stuff on Edge and MVP in particular is moronic, Edge a poor promo ? MVP needs to be carried and a new name ? b/c yeah 3 letter acronym names have never been good for top guys........HBK........Y2J......DDP..........

Orton and Cena are the same and need to find personalities ? Kennedy's work in the ring is average ?....i'd say his matches with HBK prove otherwise, just like Cena did with HBK, Kennedy held his own.

This guy really needs to never write another column.

It is the same moron. The Edge being a terrible promo guy had me wondering what this *****e's idea of a good promo man is.

 

[Hunter Rider]

It is the same moron. The Edge being a terrible promo guy had me wondering what this *****e's idea of a good promo man is.

I guess for him good promos are about catchphrases and smack talk, he must have haded Jake Roberts...This guy had to be the worst commentator this side of Cole when he was in WCW, even the chubby dude Madden was better than him.

 

[BlackLantern]

Madden cracked me up once during a WCW Thunder show.....Bill DeMott (general Rection) went to the top rope for a moonsault and Madden goes "Fly fata$$ fly!!" cheap joke but funny at the time

 

[Hunter Rider]

Madden cracked me up once during a WCW Thunder show.....Bill DeMott (general Rection) went to the top rope for a moonsault and Madden goes "Fly fata$$ fly!!" cheap joke but funny at the time

The only call of his i remember was when Goldberg jackhammered Hogan through a table and he said "Man that was glorious, ahhhhhh i need a cigarette" t:

 

[The Sage]

Anyone think HBK and Undertaker will wrestle their final match against each other? Not anytime soon, but in the future.