Fair enough.
As do I. It's not about blind brand loyalty. It's about the fact that I see flaws/strengths in both the Prequels and the Original Trilogy, but that doesn't not diminish things that I love in either of them.
I get it, but I still don't see how it relates. You think that, in general, kids were not going to identify with a 10 year old Anakin? Do you have kids? Yeah, they pretend to be grown ups. However, they nearly universally gravitate to stories with kids in them.
So says your cousins/good friends? It's hard to tell because there was no internet in 1983. Not everyone had the voice to reach million instantly. How do you gauge negative nerd outcry and compare decades apart?
I'll say this: By the time we got to ROTJ there was a lot of *****ing about all the puppets/muppets that took up the front half of the movie. You know what people said about Jabba's palace and the Ewoks? Toy commercial aimed at kids. Sound familiar?
Acting was Star Wars acting in the OT too. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but there is a reason Mark Hamill's delivery of the "Going to tosche's to pick up power converters" line is ridiculed. Believe it or not, some people even took Hamill's acting to task during THE scene of all scenes after Vader reveals that he is Luke's father. There were folks that though his reaction and facial expressions were WAY overdone.
I am not one of them, but the fact is many critics ragged on the ORIGINAL Star Wars Trilogy as being special effects/spectacle over story/acting/dialogue. Look up some vintage reviews.
Empire and
Jedi got mixed reviews upon release.
Were they? I love em. They are the perfect fairy tale archetype.
Brother, you don't have to convince me. ROTJ is my favorite movie.
I think it's fair to say that "some" like all of them. Me included. Follow this:
I don't equate popularity/box office/rentals/sales with quality. However, if The Prequels didn't appeal to a MASSIVE amount of people, they wouldn't have made the box office that they did. In other words, one cannot paint them out to be
Batman and Robin because that film had a HUGE dropoff in box office aka popularity from the previous films. People stayed away, even though Batman has huge brand appeal and franchise strength.
The Prequels, on the other hand, broke many box office records, and were routinely the highest grossing films of the year.
Again, I don't point out money made to convince you of QUALITY, just that the films obviously appealed to a HUGE segment of the population. Is that brand loyalty alone? Again, I don't think so. Look at Batman. Proof is in the pudding.
Let me ask you this? Are there any PT fans that aren't OT fans? Know what I mean by that?
I would guess that most PT fans like/love Star Wars, in general. Overall, I like my first love, The Original Trilogy. It's the Star Wars I grew up with and know the best. That said, I know people that like Clone Wars the best, Prequels the best, Knights of the Old Republic the best, Lego Star Wars the best, etc. I even know a person that lives and dies by the Zahn Trilogy and loves Admiral Thrawn.
I guess I just don't know many folks who draw lines/pick sides when it comes to Star Wars. Again, only on the internet.
Here is the deal: Even loving Return of the Jedi as much as I do, I could tear it apart from a film critique standpoint. I could do this to Empire and A New Hope as well. I don't , though, because they don't have to be flawless films for me to love them. Believe me, many critiques leveled at the Prequels could be (and for a long time were) aimed at the original Trilogy.
Right. But that's what I am saying. People are chicken **** in public. The internet cultivates cynicism and false bravado that few sane people would display in public. Isn't being a fan about fun.. as you say? Why the hostility when on the keyboards? Go to aintitcool.com to see what I mean.
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I hear you, but if you really think Bayformers and The Prequels are on equal footing in terms of quality it's a tough pill for this Star Wars fan to swallow.
None at all. Thanks for the talk.