The Superhero Cinematic Civil War of Tomorrow Thread - Part 62

[Lily Adler]

 

[MarvelFan]

Stopping the story dead to tell uninterrupted, repetitive backstory for a character who takes ages to die.

What makes it worse, is that do it two other times in the movie, far more elegantly. Even still, it's always hilarious that they will have someone run into a room be a like, "that person killed my family member" in their head. And then show a flashback of the incident. Then have them say it to the person to killed said family member then show us the incident again. And then when one of them eventually dies, have to show it again.

I love anime. But I also hate how all the really cool stuff has large sections where it's clearly written like the audience are dumb children. You don't need to adapt the manga panel for panel!

Yeah the only minus thing about the movie that I've frequently hear is the flashback sequence, haha. (I am not bothered much by it, though...but if you're talking about Akaza's backstory, that went way too long, indeed lol)

But overall, just curious, ... what would you rank this movie, out of 10?

 

[MarvelFan]

And I still can't help but side eye the Attack on Titan mangaka. The ending did not exactly ease my discomfort of some of the **** he did in that series.

I know AoT had a very divisive ending, but if I may asking (just curious), which part you didn't like, Sithborg?
I thought the ending was quite okay, all things considered, since I thought the series has peaked during the Marley invasion arc.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah the only minus thing about the movie that I've frequently hear is the flashback sequence, haha. (I am not bothered much by it, though...but if you're talking about Akaza's backstory, that went way too long, indeed lol)

But overall, just curious, ... what would you rank this movie, out of 10?

It is Akaza's backstory. The rest are a bit repetitive but much shorter and I'd say well weaved into the action and film overall. And just to be clear, I did like the backstory. But how they deliver it, especially the repetitive, elongated natural, is my issue. Somehow worse then when they did it with Daki and Gyutaro. Leave a bit of the mystery. Would go a long way to strengthen the impact of the story being told.

Out of 10? 7.5 maybe 7. It would be an easy 8 if not for my issue. Feels like it tacks on 20 mins to an already long film, that slows down a film that has much better pacing then the show usually had.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I know AoT had a very divisive ending, but if I may asking (just curious), which part you didn't like, Sithborg?
I thought the ending was quite okay, all things considered, since I thought the series has peaked during the Marley invasion arc.

Probably how pro-fascist it turned out to be.

 

[DKDetective]

Physical media Drizzy?! What's that?

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[Shinobi Shaw]

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Ha! Now you know I was being facetious sir.

I have a whole Criterion Collection in my library.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Only gothic Batman I need is Morrison's Gothic.

A criminally underrated 10/10 masterpiece.

 

[Lily Adler]

Also Jason Blood or at least Etrigan.

 

[Sithborg]

I know AoT had a very divisive ending, but if I may asking (just curious), which part you didn't like, Sithborg?
I thought the ending was quite okay, all things considered, since I thought the series has peaked during the Marley invasion arc.

Paradise is not so subtly Japan. Which okay, fine, plenty you can go about WW2 Japan and the aftermath. But having the king who remains mind control the population to enforce peace and non-aggression with the other world powers is...not great. And then, take your super special not-japanese people, and place them in the outside world with pretty explicit jewish ghettos? Whatever point you are eventually going to try and make, is lost on my extremely negative view of your story at that point.

That they even attempted a justification of Eren's actions does not sit well with me.

And nowadays, a story that is so pro military coup and military rule is not something I am that interested in.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Sunday Morning Funnies:

 

[chamber-music]

Kids going to have a lot of dead girlfriends

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

He had one job.

 

[Babillygunn]

Sunday Morning Funnies:

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When my youngest was in first grade he had this conversation with his teacher in front of the whole class:

Teacher (calling on my son): “And what would you like to be when you grow up.”
My son: “I want to be Batman when I grow up.”
Teacher: “But Batman isn’t real. He doesn’t actually exist.”
My son: “Not yet.”

 

[Babillygunn]

Have they got a time machine?

 

[Sithborg]

He had one job.

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Eh trying to weave her story into Batman 2 seems like it would be a disservice to what his main story will be, as well to Sofia's. She wasn't exactly left in a spot to easily have her show up.

 

[flickchick85]

He had one job.

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[Lily Adler]

He had one job.

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[Lily Adler]

Eh trying to weave her story into Batman 2 seems like it would be a disservice to what his main story will be, as well to Sofia's. She wasn't exactly left in a spot to easily have her show up.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

When my youngest was in first grade he had this conversation with his teacher in front of the whole class:

Teacher (calling on my son): “And what would you like to be when you grow up.”
My son: “I want to be Batman when I grow up.”
Teacher: “But Batman isn’t real. He doesn’t actually exist.”
My son: “Not yet.”

"But don't your parents have to die first?"

 

[Lily Adler]

When my youngest was in first grade he had this conversation with his teacher in front of the whole class:

Teacher (calling on my son): “And what would you like to be when you grow up.”
My son: “I want to be Batman when I grow up.”
Teacher: “But Batman isn’t real. He doesn’t actually exist.”
My son: “Not yet.”

"But don't your parents have to die first?"

I see a skit with "Make A Wish" making a kid's dreams come true.

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[MarvelFan]

Paradise is not so subtly Japan. Which okay, fine, plenty you can go about WW2 Japan and the aftermath. But having the king who remains mind control the population to enforce peace and non-aggression with the other world powers is...not great. And then, take your super special not-japanese people, and place them in the outside world with pretty explicit jewish ghettos? Whatever point you are eventually going to try and make, is lost on my extremely negative view of your story at that point.

That they even attempted a justification of Eren's actions does not sit well with me.

And nowadays, a story that is so pro military coup and military rule is not something I am that interested in.

Thanks...
that is interesting, and I get your point...I didn't think much about that when I first watched it (as I was sucked more into the story and the massive world building than the real world allegories, though I admit that the Jewish concentration camp's allegory was way too obvious.

like @DarthSkywalker mentioned, the ending that showed the Yaeger extremist took control of Paradise and eventually became a fascist nation was indeed not good. But I let it slide as I'm more inclined to be more focus on how the main characters' arc ended, and overall I am quite satisfied with each of their respective arcs had concluded. The ending with Mikasa, especially... imo was beautiful but sad at the same time.

But thinking it again...not to defend the author but I think Isayama-shi didn't intent to say that he is a pro-military coup or pro-fascist by any means, I think he's just inspired by what was transpired in real history... if Paradise was indeed viewed or subtly depicted as WW2 Japan, as the real history showed that a military coup was indeed happening during the war time (led by General Tojo) that eventually led Japan into a devastating result at the end (same with Paradise's fate). with that said, so I think Isayama-shi had no other intent besides he only wanted to say that that paving a path towards fascist way and wagging war with other nations, always comes with heavy and devastating price in the end.

But I get why you're thinking that way, fair points on all front.
That is why the ending is such divisive.