The Superhero Cinematic Civil War - Part 60

[DarthSkywalker]

No, the MTV popcorn buckets don't have more cache, but we'll leave that hyperbole aside.

I'm surprised I have to belabor this point, but yes, Denis Villeneuve has an exceptionally high level of success in Hollywood. That is looking at success in the aggregate of commercial, prestige, critical, et cetera, where I evaluate his level of prestige and critical acclaim relative to other blockbuster directors. To the best of my knowledge, Villeneuve and Nolan are the most successful at straddling that divide between blockbusters and prestige.

He's received academy award nominations for best picture, best director, and best adapted screenplay. He's also received nominations from the Golden Globes and from Cannes, which between them are, I think, the three most respected film awards. All the while he is responsible for multiple blockbusters.

He's also held in high regards by executives. I recently found out that he's being allowed to make a film about Rendezvous with Rama. In an era where the industry is focused on explosions and action set pieces, he's actually being permitted to develop a tentpole based on an exceptionally slow and hard science fiction story. It's a story about exploration and ideas. The characters in the book are very surface level and cookie cutter -- because the story is about the ideas, and not the characters. The fact it's being made is remarkable.

Aside: I was in the process of listening to the audio book, about halfway done, when I found out that it was being made into a film.

I love Matt Reeves as a director. I hope that he gets to make more movies. Now that I think about it, I'd be curious to see what he could do with Star Trek or Battlestar Galactica.

Now explain how Matt Reeves, in the aggregate, is of a lower position? Because Reeves is way out in front commercially, has similar credits from the critics (their RT and MC scores are hilariously similar), and is considered a prestige blockbuster filmmaker. Do you think Matt Reeves, hired by two of the major studios to head two of their bigger franchise (and WB's biggest) isn't held in high regard by executives? Of course he is.

You're the one who made the argument of levels here, and now can't pin it down. It's super nebelous. You could've just said you prefer one of them, but instead you who made the statement that associated Matt Reeves with Zack Snyder. And it makes even less sense to compare Denis to Nolan, because commercially, Denis is nowhere near Nolan (my beloved 2049 was a massive bomb). Reeves is much closer in that regard.

And out of all three, I prefer Denis. He's one of my three favorite directors going. But that isn't the argument you made. It was one based around the idea that there is some metrics for success that show Denis is above Reeves. And you couldn't provide anything, outside of awards Denis didn't win. You brought up Cannes, which is notorious for being ****.

 

[Drizzle]

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That scene was sad.

But fun fact: they used a mix of animatronics and little people actors to play those penguins.

I know PETA was plenty angry about the real penguins they used with the rockets strapped to their backs.

 

[Nardz937]

I recall the trained penguins wouldn't cooperate because they were terrified of DeVito's make-up.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I know PETA was plenty angry about the real penguins they used with the rockets strapped to their backs.

Hold up, those were the real penguins they used with the rockets? I'll be damned.

 

[kguillou]

“Agatha All Along” is the latest title change of her D+ show.

I mean, yeah, sure, i guess, why not.

 

[Drizzle]

Hold up, those were the real penguins they used with the rockets? I'll be damned.

Yeah, the smaller guys.

I recall the trained penguins wouldn't cooperate because they were terrified of DeVito's make-up.

DeVito also has a story about the monkey that hands Penguin the note being scared to the point where it bit his crotch area and the only thing that saved him from a trip to the ER was the suit padding.

 

[Kane52630]

More like the saddest. My heart still breaks for these poor babies.

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I will forever love this scene between the giant penguins to the skateboard underneath Danny DeVito that falls into the water.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

“Agatha All Along” is the latest title change of her D+ show.

I mean, yeah, sure, i guess, why not.

Oh come on. "Agatha: Coven of Chaos" really would've sufficed.

 

[Drizzle]

“Agatha All Along” is the latest title change of her D+ show.

I mean, yeah, sure, i guess, why not.

That's what I thought they should have called the show in the first place given how that song blew up.

 

[Filmfreak]

“Agatha All Along” is the latest title change of her D+ show.

I mean, yeah, sure, i guess, why not.

For real? It's like the fourth title they've changed with a logo and everything. They surely know what to do with the show, huh.

 

[Iceman]

“Agatha All Along” is the latest title change of her D+ show.

I mean, yeah, sure, i guess, why not.

Indecisiveness set to Max rating!

Do you remember the other names?

 

[Filmfreak]

Indecisiveness set to Max rating!

Do you remember the other names?

It went from Agatha: House of Harkness to Agatha: Coven of Chaos to Agatha: Darkhold Diaries to now Agatha All Along. At least her name is consistent in the titles.

 

[Iceman]

It went from Agatha: House of Harkness to Agatha: Coven of Chaos to Agatha: Darkhold Diaries to now Agatha All Along. At least her name is consistent in the titles.

Thanks. Pretty funny :smilingeyes: Hopefully whoever has the job of brainstorming a new title every few weeks is getting paid megabucks for all the value they’re adding.

 

[Sithborg]

“Agatha All Along” is the latest title change of her D+ show.

I mean, yeah, sure, i guess, why not.

Sure, just flat out admit the song going viral was why the show was greenlit. I think they are getting desperate.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I read something where the title changes are actually intentional. Don't know if I believe it, but that would be fun.

 

[Drizzle]

Sure, just flat out admit the song going viral was why the show was greenlit. I think they are getting desperate.

They're going to lean on Kathryn Hahn and especially Aubrey Plaza in the marketing anyway.

 

[Lily Adler]

#SelltoNetflix!

 

[BoredGuy]

Still better than the new title for Beverly Hills Cop 4

Changed from "Beverly Hills Cop: Axel Foley" to "Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F"
Like what, is he a kindergartner now?

 

[kguillou]

After Coming 2 America i just dont trust Eddie Murphy anymore tbh.

 

[Filmfreak]

I read something where the title changes are actually intentional. Don't know if I believe it, but that would be fun.

That would be brilliant and creative. Which is why it can't be true.

 

[Iceman]

#SelltoNetflix!

It never ends. Keep feeding unnecessary fuel to the fire.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

That would be brilliant and creative. Which is why it can't be true.

Hey now, they're having a rough year but these are the same creatives that gave us WandaVision. They have their moments!

 

[BoredGuy]

After Coming 2 America i just dont trust Eddie Murphy anymore tbh.

My Name is Dolemite was f***ing great though

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

My Name is Dolemite was f***ing great though

Should've been his Oscar.

 

[Lily Adler]

That would be brilliant and creative. Which is why it can't be true.

Every episode Agatha keeps changing the title of the show cause she's not satisfied with it.