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I got a question.

Lets say season 8 is a good year. We get want we want from character develops, to action scenes, to suspense/drama, to guest appearances. Halfway through the season, the ratings are much better than the previous seasons and the CW is looking at this. They give Smallville a thumbs up for season 9. So seasons 8 finale ends of a typical Smallville cliffhanger with everyone in danger.

Roll around the Summer and the CW folds. What happens to Smallville? They end if with season 8 by canceling the show and no one get an ending they want?

it's possible another network may want Smallville. The same thing happened to Scrubs. It used to be on NBC but now it will be airing on ABC. Same with Buffy I believe. It used to be on WB but then UPN picked it up. I'm sure another network will pick Smallville up if CW does in fact fold. I don't know about the other shows, though.

I really dont think CW is going to fold, but if it did I would assume another Network would likely pick up Smallville, Supernatural, and a few of the other shows. Could be a cable net like Sci Fi, or one of the big Networks might use it as a midseason replacement. It's tough to say though, since it's current ratings wouldnt fly on a Big Network, although the argument could be made that if it was on a bigger Network and in more homes, it would have better ratings. Regardless, I'm sure WB would do something to let the Series have a proper finish. There's too much money to be made by them from it.
 
I really dont think CW is going to fold, but if it did I would assume another Network would likely pick up Smallville, Supernatural, and a few of the other shows. Could be a cable net like Sci Fi, or one of the big Networks might use it as a midseason replacement. It's tough to say though, since it's current ratings wouldnt fly on a Big Network, although the argument could be made that if it was on a bigger Network and in more homes, it would have better ratings. Regardless, I'm sure WB would do something to let the Series have a proper finish. There's too much money to be made by them from it.

Good point.

If The CW folds before Smallville ends, Warner Bros TV unit would probably do anything they can to get it onto another network (whether cable or broadcast) because of all the revenue they get for the DVD sets and stuff like that...

Although, I really, really hope it doesn't go 9 seasons. As big a cash cow Smallville is (low ratings notwithstanding), they need to know how to end it gracefully.
 
Good point.

If The CW folds before Smallville ends, Warner Bros TV unit would probably do anything they can to get it onto another network (whether cable or broadcast) because of all the revenue they get for the DVD sets and stuff like that...

Although, I really, really hope it doesn't go 9 seasons. As big a cash cow Smallville is (low ratings notwithstanding), they need to know how to end it gracefully.


It would be awesome if like HBO (also a TW company I believe) picked it up as a miniseries of like 5 or 6 one hour episodes to close it out. Then we could hear Lex drop the F bomb and have Erica do full frontal! :eek: :D ;)
 
It would be awesome if like HBO (also a TW company I believe) picked it up as a miniseries of like 5 or 6 one hour episodes to close it out. Then we could hear Lex drop the F bomb and have Erica do full frontal! :eek: :D ;)

That would be AMAZING.
Except the Lois full-frontal part. *shakes finger at Hulk* :mad: ;)
 
Well, unless it was Tom..







Wait... did I say that out loud?

*cough*

;) :D

LOL!

Okay.. I guess we could make that exception. After all, it IS HBO, and I'm sure it would be important to the storyline. *cough*

:D :up:
 
It would be awesome if like HBO (also a TW company I believe) picked it up as a miniseries of like 5 or 6 one hour episodes to close it out. Then we could hear Lex drop the F bomb and have Erica do full frontal! :eek: :D ;)

I approve this post. :up:
 
I got a question.

Lets say season 8 is a good year. We get want we want from character develops, to action scenes, to suspense/drama, to guest appearances. Halfway through the season, the ratings are much better than the previous seasons and the CW is looking at this. They give Smallville a thumbs up for season 9. So seasons 8 finale ends of a typical Smallville cliffhanger with everyone in danger.

Roll around the Summer and the CW folds. What happens to Smallville? They end if with season 8 by canceling the show and no one get an ending they want?

Hmm...

Maybe if that scenario plays out, perhaps WB could resolve the cliffhanger in a special 2-hour theatrical presentation they could release on 4,000+ screens in the summer of 2010? :grin: :cwink:
 
I would like a reboot Superman that has nothing to do with the Reeve movies, Singer movie, or Smallville. Start from scratch. An origin movie set present day. Make it as epic, nay, more epic than the Nolan Batman movies.
 
LOL!

Okay.. I guess we could make that exception. After all, it IS HBO, and I'm sure it would be important to the storyline. *cough*

:D :up:

Of course it would be important...

LOL!

:D

I would like a reboot Superman that has nothing to do with the Reeve movies, Singer movie, or Smallville. Start from scratch. An origin movie set present day. Make it as epic, nay, more epic than the Nolan Batman movies.

QFT

:up:

Anything at this point, Tom no Tom, to get superman into theatres would be okay with me.

It sucks Marvel is wiping the floor with DC...

:mad:

Hence the sig.
 
I was watching Undeclared and I got a kick out of this

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old...

well for me at least. Although I completely didnt realize he was ever on the show...

Well, I hadn't heard about it before, but it's not like I keep track of star kid's romantic entanglements....

I don't remember Alberti looking at all cute in the episode, but he looks handsome in the pictures I've seen of him at the premiere of Rumer's film so good for her.

And he was on the show about 4 years ago (2004).
 
I was watching Undeclared and I got a kick out of this



heh that was part of the answer to my trivia question I posed to the guys on the Starkville House of EL Podcast.

Who is the only actor to appear in TV shows/movies with both Tom Welling and Brandon Routh?


Seth Rogen - Undeclared with Welling and Zack and Miri Make a Porno with Routh
 
heh that was part of the answer to my trivia question I posed to the guys on the Starkville House of EL Podcast.

Who is the only actor to appear in TV shows/movies with both Tom Welling and Brandon Routh?


Seth Rogen - Undeclared with Welling and Zack and Miri Make a Porno with Routh


If you count voice-overs, then you could add Allison Mack to the list. :)
 
Warner Bets on Fewer, Bigger Movies
By LAUREN A.E. SCHUKER
August 22, 2008; Page B1

Emboldened by this summer's success with "The Dark Knight," Warner Bros.' movie studio is setting a new strategy.

The Time Warner Inc. unit, like some other Hollywood studios, is planning to release fewer films into the crowded marketplace. But the studio, known for making more big, expensive movies than most rivals, plans to make even more of those -- some centered on properties from its DC Comics unit, such as Batman.

Warner Bros. Pictures Group President Jeff Robinov wants the studio to release as many as eight such movies a year by 2011. "The long-term goal of the studio is to take advantage of what has become a very global market by focusing on bigger films that require a bigger commitment," he says. Warner Bros. films released last year grossed $2 billion internationally, about 42% more than their $1.4 billion domestic take.

Mining the comic-book franchise is central to the success of Warner Bros.' strategy. Its lineup of "tent poles" -- Hollywood-speak for big movies that are the foundation of a studio's slate -- has thinned. Warner Bros. has been slow to capitalize on DC, and it now faces a rival in Marvel Entertainment Inc.'s Marvel Studios, the company behind box-office gusher "Iron Man."

Superhero films based on comic-book legends, like "The Dark Knight," have emerged as some of the strongest players in the global market, in part because they're natural candidates for tie-ups with consumer products and games that can also be marketed globally.

"Superheroes are more global than ever in today's commercial world, existing in 30 languages and in more than 60 countries," says Paul Levitz, president and publisher of DC Comics. The characters are "a world-wide export," he says.

"Films with our DC properties have the opportunity to support other divisions in the company in a way that our other movies don't," Mr. Robinov says, for example, with products such as a Superman game or toys. By 2011, Mr. Robinov plans for DC Comics to supply the material for up to two of the six to eight tent-pole films he hopes Warner Bros. will have in the pipeline by then.

While big ambitions can result in a huge payoff, they can also end in huge losses. Warner's car adventure "Speed Racer" bombed at the box office in May. The film, said to have cost as much as $150 million, has taken in only $43.9 million in the U.S. Some other big-budget Warner films, such as spy comedy "Get Smart," also have failed to meet expectations.

Earlier this year, Warner Bros. shut its two art-house labels, Picturehouse and Warner Independent Pictures. The studio currently releases 25 to 26 films a year. By 2010, Mr. Robinov plans to pare production to 20 to 22 movies a year.

A movie referred to internally as "Justice League of America," originally said to be for next summer, was planned as one of the studio's major releases. With that film, starring a superhero team, Warner hoped to spark interest in DC characters like Green Lantern who haven't yet attained the level of popularity of Batman. But script problems, among other things, have delayed the movie.

The studio said last week that "Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince," originally slated for November release, would come out next July -- on the same weekend that "The Dark Knight" opened this year. The Batman sequel made more than $150 million in the U.S. that weekend. "We just needed a July movie," said Alan Horn, president of the studio, at the time.

Warner Bros. also put on hold plans for another movie starring multiple superheroes -- known as "Batman vs. Superman" -- after the $215 million "Superman Returns," which had disappointing box-office returns, didn't please executives. "'Superman' didn't quite work as a film in the way that we wanted it to," says Mr. Robinov. "It didn't position the character the way he needed to be positioned." "Had 'Superman' worked in 2006, we would have had a movie for Christmas of this year or 2009," he adds. "But now the plan is just to reintroduce Superman without regard to a Batman and Superman movie at all."

One of the studio's other big releases planned for 2009, "Watchmen," is the subject of a high-profile copyright lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court for the Central District of California by News Corp.'s Twentieth Century Fox.

Based on the premise that superheroes are real people grappling with their own problems, "Watchmen" is an apocalyptic vision of their world. Fox says it is seeking an injunction to enforce its copyright interest in the film. Last week, a federal judge ruled that it may have rights to the property. News Corp. is the parent of Wall Street Journal publisher Dow Jones & Co.

With "Batman vs. Superman" and "Justice League" stalled, Warner Bros. has quietly adopted Marvel's model of releasing a single film for each character, and then using those movies and their sequels to build up to a multicharacter film. "Along those lines, we have been developing every DC character that we own," Mr. Robinov says.

Like the recent Batman sequel -- which has become the highest-grossing film of the year thus far -- Mr. Robinov wants his next pack of superhero movies to be bathed in the same brooding tone as "The Dark Knight." Creatively, he sees exploring the evil side to characters as the key to unlocking some of Warner Bros.' DC properties. "We're going to try to go dark to the extent that the characters allow it," he says. That goes for the company's Superman franchise as well.

The studio is set to announce its plans for future DC movies in the next month. For now, though, it is focused on releasing four comic-book films in the next three years, including a third Batman film, a new film reintroducing Superman, and two movies focusing on other DC Comics characters. Movies featuring Green Lantern, Flash, Green Arrow, and Wonder Woman are all in active development.

Many of the studio's directors credit Mr. Robinov for taking Warner Bros.' films in a darker and deeper direction. Christopher Nolan, who directed "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight," says Mr. Robinov "really encouraged the logic of the villain" from "Batman Begins." That led to focusing heavily on the Joker in the sequel. "At the script stage, Jeff really wanted us to be very clear on the Joker's lack of purpose," he says.

Source: Wall Street Journal

they want to go dark with Superman? I'm worried they want to go too dark. Superman should be light and happy not dark like Batman. :huh:
 
^^ Please, is not about Superman being dark, is about the story being darker, rougher, even SV is quite dark sometimes.
SR fans can't deny anymore that for WB the movie was a failure, the question is who will be the next Superman, will they offer the role to Tom Welling? Everything is in place now, last season of SV, Clark becoming \S/.... then they can start shooting next summer/fall, if the script is ready by then. They should bring Brainiac or Darkseid as supervillains, that would make the film darker. Lets hope WB gets it right next time.
 
^^ Please, is not about Superman being dark, is about the story being darker, rougher, even SV is quite dark sometimes.
SR fans can't deny anymore that for WB the movie was a failure, the question is who will be the next Superman, will they offer the role to Tom Welling? Everything is in place now, last season of SV, Clark becoming \S/.... then they can start shooting next summer/fall, if the script is ready by then. They should bring Brainiac or Darkseid as supervillains, that would make the film darker. Lets hope WB gets it right next time.

uhhh....no. I really doubt they would turn Smallville into a movie. I think they should just restart the franchise with an origin movie. New director, cast, everything. There shouldn't be any tie in with the Donner universe, Singer universe, or Smallville universe.

And in the article, Robinov said he wants to explore the evil side of characters? If he means the villains, fine, but I don't know how they would do that to heroes like Superman?
 
Once again it looks like the Idiots at WB (h/t Trip) have completely missed the boat. On the one hand I'm glad to hear they're finally taking their stable of DC properties seriously. On the other, they still don't get it. The reason Dark Knight worked is not because it was "dark." It worked precisely because Nolan and co. remained true to the character's essence. The reason Dark Knight was dark was because Batman is dark.

It's like they've learned the completely wrong lesson from the Batman success. They think "let's just make everything dark and gritty" and all will be hunky dory. Meanwhile, some of their properties don't have to be "dark and gritty." A Flash movie should be fun. A Superman movie should be fun. A Shazam movie should be fun. But they want to "explore the evil side of their characters"? Are you serious?! Gah! So frustrating.

Just look at Iron Man (the other hugely popular superhero flick of the year). That also worked because Favs and company got the character. There wasn't anything dark about it and it still grossed eleventy billion dollars!

No, the lesson they should've learned is to get a director and writer who have a real reverence for the character (not just a fetish for one particular 30 year old cinematic interpretation of that character, ahem) and let them go to town. But this mandate to make every comic movie dark and gritty sounds a little too much like the time they wanted to turn Superman into a violent, capeless, black leather clad Burton Batman clone because that's what they thought attributed to the success of B89.
 
^ yeah I agree RakuMon. It seems that WB is missing the point of why TDK was good. I just don't want to see Superman brooding. we had that for the past 7 years on Smallville, and he did that in SR.
 
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