Justice League The Thanos Problem

[shauner111]

Have you seen marvel movies? Too much comedy. I hate to come off like a fanboy, but I want things to betaken serious, with serious issues at stake. MOS you felt like the world was rreally at stake. Avengers felt like guys in costumes having a good time. Darkseid has a chance to humiliate Thanos, by being intimidating, menacing and monstrous.

I agree. And it will go down this way.

There are some similarities between Darkseid, Apocalypse and Thanos. Mainly with their look. But Darkseid should be done in a way where you feel frightened and fascinated. Thanos just feels like another bad guy alien who is big in size, but he's closed off, he wants to destroy things, he cracks smiles. Thanos almost looks like he's having a good time. Honestly, Spader's voice for Ultron makes that character feel far more intimidating than Brolin's character.

I hope Darkseid wipes the floor with him. Fans get two back-to-back movies with Thanos with the second part released at the same time as Justice League's Part 2. Which features Darkseid, probably for the only time. This is not a situation where he will appear in a comedy space opera (Guardians) or in a post-credit scene practically twirling his mustache in a comedic team-up (Avengers). It will be built upon through references, but the big reveal happens in this one Justice League movie in 2019. Darkseid NEEDS to feel like Satan himself as a dictator, with his followers, and whether he comes to Earth or the League goes to him, he has to feel evil/serious as all hell. No fooling around. He's not isolated. Pure business.

 

[Naked Shia]

the hunger dogs beeing totally frightened of Darkseid should show how much of a tyran he is.

 

[Zionite1]

Dont use Darkseid for JL1 and JL2.Its quite simple really.
Believe it or not there are other villains the JusticeLeague can use.
Wait till Avengers is done with Thanos,then learn from what they did,improve it and bring Darkseid Later down the Line,

I think the Justice League shouldnt go cosmic right now-If They are Smart they will go Chronal.Thats right Timetravel.Beat Marvel to the Punch before they go Chronal with Kang the Conqueror.


JL1 will have a Villain from the Future send enemies to the Present.
JL2 will have the Justice League going to Future to defeat this Futuristic Villain.

My Villain Choice are Braniac 13 or Imperiex.

 

[Naked Shia]

that could be interesting indeed.

 

[Zionite1]

that could be interesting indeed.

Yep.It makes the Justice League stories very,VERY distinct from the Avenger stories

 

[titansupes]

^ I like it. Well played.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

a new gods movie instead of a suicide squad film makes more sense but we're likely past that. i don't think that it matters all that much really, and anyone who thinks that darksied is a thanos ripoff will come off as someone who doesn't know what they're talking about.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

Dont use Darkseid for JL1 and JL2.Its quite simple really.
Believe it or not there are other villains the JusticeLeague can use.
Wait till Avengers is done with Thanos,then learn from what they did,improve it and bring Darkseid Later down the Line,

I think the Justice League shouldnt go cosmic right now-If They are Smart they will go Chronal.Thats right Timetravel.Beat Marvel to the Punch before they go Chronal with Kang the Conqueror.


JL1 will have a Villain from the Future send enemies to the Present.
JL2 will have the Justice League going to Future to defeat this Futuristic Villain.

My Villain Choice are Braniac 13 or Imperiex.

oh, i like this. hopefully someone's got the same idea over at wb.

 

[WBwins]

Dont use Darkseid for JL1 and JL2.Its quite simple really.
Believe it or not there are other villains the JusticeLeague can use.
Wait till Avengers is done with Thanos,then learn from what they did,improve it and bring Darkseid Later down the Line,

I think the Justice League shouldnt go cosmic right now-If They are Smart they will go Chronal.Thats right Timetravel.Beat Marvel to the Punch before they go Chronal with Kang the Conqueror.


JL1 will have a Villain from the Future send enemies to the Present.
JL2 will have the Justice League going to Future to defeat this Futuristic Villain.

My Villain Choice are Braniac 13 or Imperiex.

This makes so much sense

 

[shauner111]

Thing is, you have to do Darkseid for part 2 because my belief is that we either won't get a Part 3 or a third will be done by a different director, different cast, different set of characters. No Affleck. No Batman, Superman, etc. No Barry, Hal.

It would have to be Martian Manhunter, Flash (Wally), Green Lantern (John), Hawkgirl, Hawkman. Maybe Aquaman or Cyborg could remain on the team..

That doesn't sound appealing to a general audience. This wouldn't be an unknown property coming to life like Guardians or Suicide Squad. This would be a third Justice League, coming off two big films that featured the likes of Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman (the selling point). Then you suddenly take those big characters away from people? Replace them with C-List characters? It's not going to make any money. I would call it off.

That's why they should do Darkseid for Part 2. Go out with a bang. Continue a handful of solo films but what would be the next team-up? Justice League: Dark. They can just call it Dark Universe.

Kang? I dont know anything about that stuff so ill pass for now.

 

[Zionite1]

Thing is, you have to do Darkseid for part 2 because my belief is that we either won't get a Part 3 or a third will be done by a different director, different cast, different set of characters. No Affleck. No Batman, Superman, etc. No Barry, Hal.

It would have to be Martian Manhunter, Flash (Wally), Green Lantern (John), Hawkgirl, Hawkman. Maybe Aquaman or Cyborg could remain on the team..

That doesn't sound appealing to a general audience. This wouldn't be an unknown property coming to life like Guardians or Suicide Squad. This would be a third Justice League, coming off two big films that featured the likes of Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman (the selling point). Then you suddenly take those big characters away from people? Replace them with C-List characters? It's not going to make any money. I would call it off.

That's why they should do Darkseid for Part 2. Go out with a bang. Continue a handful of solo films but what would be the next team-up? Justice League: Dark. They can just call it Dark Universe.

Kang? I dont know anything about that stuff so ill pass for now.

After Justice League part 1 and 2 ends the non Batman/Supes Solos would just be starting out.Flash2,GL2,WW2, etc all just starting franchises.

Gl and Flash if done well can headline the war against Darkseid in Supes/Bats absence.
Or if they want they can just recast Supes and Bats no Biggie and tell the Darkseid story.

Theres no reason why the Darkseid story has to be now and very strong reasons why it should be moved.

 

[Zionite1]

that could be interesting indeed.

^ I like it. Well played.

This makes so much sense

oh, i like this. hopefully someone's got the same idea over at wb.

Thanks Guys

 

[shauner111]

After Justice League part 1 and 2 ends the non Batman/Supes Solos would just be starting out.Flash2,GL2,WW2, etc all just starting franchises.

Gl and Flash if done well can headline the war against Darkseid in Supes/Bats absence.
Or if they want they can just recast Supes and Bats no Biggie and tell the Darkseid story.

Theres no reason why the Darkseid story has to be now and very strong reasons why it should be moved.

Sequels for the Flash, Wonder Woman and Aquaman are not guaranteed.

I dont see Affleck doing more than 4 films in total. Batman is their money-maker. Without Batman and possibly Superman, Justice League will most likely fail. And i certainly have no interest in seeing a Justice League movie without those two.

I doubt they'll recast batman. Affleck has a large say in this version and they'll have to recast with a late 40s actor. Don't see that happening. Ill bet that they either reboot Batman after Affleck in a self-contained universe again, or they'll do prequels. Either way, that's a younger Bruce Wayne strictly in Gotham, which has nothing to do with the Justice League.

Now?? 2019 is not "now". That's five years away. It's a long ways off.

You dont have Flash and Green Lantern headline a war against Darkseid. You NEED Superman and Batman there.

 

[Juke Box Hero]

I think when it's all said and done, they'll look and be portrayed so differently that it won't matter who came first on the big screen.

 

[Mightmitenot]

One of the better aspects of Darkseid is he has a royal court of villains. If WB fears accusations of stealing Thanos, you have Desaad, Granny, Tanto and Bedlam to take the lead.

 

[Mightmitenot]

This makes so much sense

Brainiac is known but could come across as an Ultron knock off to the uninitiated abd Imperiex is not exactly famous.

Go mystic. Demons Three, Blaze and Neron and attempt to make the universe demonic by going back in time and powering up the three earliest demons with infighting betweeb Neron and Blaze giving the league a chance of stopping it.

Possible easter eggs: Nabu, Valem (Shazam the old wizard), Modru, Starheart.

 

[Mightmitenot]

Speaking of Brainiac, he would come off as we expect Ultron to be shown if we follow Superman Unbound or the JLU versions, but Milton Fine/Vril Dox plotting to upload his intelligence into not exactly War World might work.

 

[Willi Berg]

Speaking of Brainiac, he would come off as we expect Ultron to be shown if we follow Superman Unbound or the JLU versions, but Milton Fine/Vril Dox plotting to upload his intelligence into not exactly War World might work.

If they use Brainiac, I really hope they make him more interesting than in Unbound and different from the JLU version (though that has good elements.) He could be a very complex and interesting and they could go different ways with him. (Though I do dread the comparison with the Collector in Avengers, however superficial.)

I also dread the comparison of Darkseid with Thanos. I am hearing enough of it already in terms of DC's plans vs Marvel's. But it is mainly the look, and then you'll get Marvel movie fans making snide remarks.

But I agree what's interesting about Darkseid is that there is a different backstory. Imagine if the JL travel to Apokolips and we do see battles with the his henchmen, the Furies, freeing the prisoners there, as well as the whole story with High Father and New Genesis. Not to mention the Anti-Life Equation and its effect on Earth and other planets. There can be a lot of action and drama involved with all that, that could set it apart from Avengers.

 

[WBwins]

Speaking of Brainiac, he would come off as we expect Ultron to be shown if we follow Superman Unbound or the JLU versions, but Milton Fine/Vril Dox plotting to upload his intelligence into not exactly War World might work.

Classic Braniac is a Green Alien with an army of various Alien creatures collected fromall around the worlds and Alien cyborgs.Ultron is Robot with a Robot army.The only

 

[Willi Berg]

Classic Braniac is a Green Alien with an army of various Alien creatures collected fromall around the worlds and Alien cyborgs.Ultron is Robot with a Robot army.The only

Right. There is more to Brainiac than being a robot with a robot army. He is an alien scientist, and his android army was just one method he used to attack Earth. There can be a lot of things done with him, different approaches.

 

[Uroboric Forms]

They should just utilise the multiverse for when recasting or rebooting needs to happen, as well as bringing in other guys who have held the same title as the current heroes.

 

[Zionite1]

Sequels for the Flash, Wonder Woman and Aquaman are not guaranteed.

I dont see Affleck doing more than 4 films in total. Batman is their money-maker. Without Batman and possibly Superman, Justice League will most likely fail. And i certainly have no interest in seeing a Justice League movie without those two.

I doubt they'll recast batman. Affleck has a large say in this version and they'll have to recast with a late 40s actor. Don't see that happening. Ill bet that they either reboot Batman after Affleck in a self-contained universe again, or they'll do prequels. Either way, that's a younger Bruce Wayne strictly in Gotham, which has nothing to do with the Justice League.

Now?? 2019 is not "now". That's five years away. It's a long ways off.

You dont have Flash and Green Lantern headline a war against Darkseid. You NEED Superman and Batman there.

They are going to recast.This is a given.They recast BALE.They can recast Affleck.There are not gonna let Affleck stop them from using their moneymaker.Same with Cavills Superman.Same with Marvels Chris Evans,RDJ,Hemsworth etc.All will be recasted

Saying that future Justice League will fail without Supes and Bat is wrong.If the solos of theother heroes are massive successes they can succeed withoutthem.This has happened in the comics numerous times.

If not they can always recast to keep Supes and Bats on the team.


Howver all of that is neither here nor there.I feel Darkseid is the wrong way to go right now.Go Chronal Dc

 

[Rorschach2012]

Time travel for JL wouldn't be anything new in comic book movies . X Men DOFP was all about the time travel.

If they wanted to be unique they'd showcAse their superior villains. The Legion of Doom would be perfect for a JL film. DC has the best villains it'd really set them apart from Marvel early on

Another unique direction they could go in would be alternate realities... Like a Crisis on Two Earths story.

Both suggestions feature villain teamups, if they can set it up smoothly, a team of villains would be great for JL.

Suicide Squad could set up many of the villains that would make up Lex's Legion of Doom in Justice League

 

[-Arya-]

Fingers crossed for the Crime Syndicate somewhere down the line.

 

[Wildcard]

Audiences aren't stupid, both Thanos & Darkseid are among the most popular comic book villains ever so the great majority know they are very different & who came first and the like. And for those that don't know, a quick Google search will teach them all of the basics they need to know.

I foresee no problem unless they try to set up & use Darkseid in the same way Marvel has used Thanos. Since WB won't do that, they have nothing to worry about. I actually think unveiling Darkseid would garner the exact same amount of interest & anticipation as when Thanos was first shown.