The Tobey Maguire/Peter Parker Thread

Yeah, I sense that is a problem as well. Or at least what I'm worried about. The past two movies have been completely building up to this. It's going to be hard to come up with a movie as exciting as the past two, and more specifically this third movie. I mean, they no longer have villains that are capable of carrying a movie by themselves. They'll be digging into the B - level villains from here on out. I don't get why they can't just make a great trilogy, and leave it at that. Keep it fresh, and don't O.D. on it and kill the franchise. Kind of like what happened to Batman and Superman for awhile. Keep it quality, as opposed to quantity. I mean, I really don't want another great set of movie's image and mystique tarnished by a bad movie or two. It has killed alot of the great concepts and movies.

I dont think "OD'ing" had anything to do with the demise of the supes and bats franchise. What killed them was the blatant stupidity of the films themselves. Prior to BB all batman movies sucked aprt from the 2 keaton movies as for supes, 3, 4 and SR sucked harder than a lung wound. SR goes to show that Od'ing has nothing to do with it because supes had been out of action for 19 years, came back and still sucked.
Its all about the quality of the films, if its good, keep pimpin'. :word:
 
Why is it that some people think that Tmags's portrayal is so awesome? Seriously, he didn't do anything spectacular, anybody could have done what Maguire did and its one of the reasons that cracks me up when some people put foward the stupid idea that once Tmags leaves, they should stop making spidey movies :whatever:
The way Tobey talks and acts in the movie doesn't remind me of any other actor. His delivery and body languish to me does perfectly embody what I envision as Peter Parker. Of course other actors could pull Spider-Man off, but to me when their just Peter is the real test. Though if you thought it look like anyone could do it maybe thats because Peter Parker is an every-man. Just looked at the previous page I'll just take your statement as you hated his portrayal. So who would you like to see since you've been waiting for this?
 
Well, I hoped to God Topher would take over but that was shot to hell the moment news was released he was cast to play Brock. I guess Jake G would be good enough but we'll see...
 
Jake gyllenhall would of made a good spider-man before he became such a household name, I would like to see a lesser known actor take on the role.

I think a decent choice, would be Emile Hirsch

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That fool was in Alpha Dog with JT. He's a crappy actor.
 
Yeah Jake G would have been a good choice but he's too famous now.
 
and how ended Batman?

Batman Forever was a success because of Batman Returns. In this kind of movies we see the consecuences in the next film of the franchise. So, If sony doesn't want to kill Spider-man like Warner did with Batman, they shouldn't do it.

Actually, Warner's was very disappointed in the morose Batman Returns. Audiences didn't embrace it either. Whatever anyone may say about Batman Forever (which I liked), it was a big hit and resuscitated the franchise. Not until the abysmal B&R did the franchise sputter. Recasting Spiderman could work just fine. I hope they do and keep the ball rolling.
 
Actually, Warner's was very disappointed in the morose Batman Returns. Audiences didn't embrace it either. Whatever anyone may say about Batman Forever (which I liked), it was a big hit and resuscitated the franchise. Not until the abysmal B&R did the franchise sputter. Recasting Spiderman could work just fine. I hope they do and keep the ball rolling.


Ok, you clearly prefer more money over more quality. Not me. I prefer quality all the way. Batman Returns was a masterpiece (for a superhero movie, obviously). All the people who saw it, returned to the theaters to see Batman Forever and that's why it was a success (not to mention all the publicity)



The decadence of the franchise started with Batman Forever, Batman and Robin killed it.
 
Well you're assuming the next director is going to despise the source material as much as Joel Schumacher did.
 
Poor Script/Cast/Direction killed the batman franchise, Schumacher Batmans were horrendous pieces of film
 
Why is it that some people think that Tmags's portrayal is so awesome?
Where did I say it was 'so awesome'? I never said this. However, I did say it was a good performance. He did everything neccessary to make the character pop, and work. Very few complain about Tobey Macguire as Peter Parker / Spider-Man. You may not be a fan, but you are definetely in the minority. He did a damn fine job making the character real, with emotional depth behind him.

Seriously, he didn't do anything spectacular
No one said he did anything Oscar worthy, we just said he nailed the character. And he has up until this point. He certainly hasn't done merely a bad or average job. But to be frank there is nothing else to compare him to, in terms of an on screen Hollywood Blockbuster Peter Parker, so Tobey is the standard for it and that is one of the reasons people have such an attatchment to him. He brought the character to them first, and did it well.

anybody could have done what Maguire did
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That's a bold statement, especially considering you can't actually prove it ... because Maguire DID do it, and no one else did.


and its one of the reasons that cracks me up when some people put foward the stupid idea that once Tmags leaves, they should stop making spidey movies :whatever:
I hope you are reffering to others in this section, because no where did I say they should stop making Spider-man movies. They won't for the simple fact that they make so much money.
 
No one said he did anything Oscar worthy, we just said he nailed the character. And he has up until this point. He certainly hasn't done merely a bad or average job. But to be frank there is nothing else to compare him to, in terms of an on screen Hollywood Blockbuster Peter Parker, so Tobey is the standard for it and that is one of the reasons people have such an attatchment to him. He brought the character to them first, and did it well.

He nailed the character? He acted nothing like Peter Parker or Spider-man. Maguire just phoned it in and played the same guy he played he Pleasantville and Cider House. The same exact character!!! A lethargic dork. That's not Peter Parker. Never was, never will be.
 
He nailed the character? He acted nothing like Peter Parker or Spider-man. Maguire just phoned it in and played the same guy he played he Pleasantville and Cider House. The same exact character!!! A lethargic dork. That's not Peter Parker. Never was, never will be.

So true
 
He nailed the character? He acted nothing like Peter Parker or Spider-man. Maguire just phoned it in and played the same guy he played he Pleasantville and Cider House. The same exact character!!! A lethargic dork. That's not Peter Parker. Never was, never will be.
Comics are only still frames with word balloons. Thus it up to the reader to envision the motions and dialog in their head. We each will see and hear something different. You obviously saw and heard Peter talking and moving differently in your head. To me though Tobey did an excellent job, but that's what I envisioned Peter to be and act like. This is all opinion and no one could ever be proven right or wrong. It's all up to personal interpretation of what we see and hear in our own minds. What I'd like to say though is Peter Parker did start of as a dork with not a lot of self-confidence who was a little clumsy. So he could be identifiable to lots of people. As he was Spider-man through the years he became more confident. In the 1st movie he's just getting his powers & uncle Ben dies and in 2nd he's depressed and losses his powers. So we haven't really gotten a chance to see a super confident Peter/Spider-man. The comics get to show him every month for decades. So there we get to see the light hearted wise-cracking super-confident side of him. The movies however can only focus on a short time frame of his life. So they choose to show the periods in his life when everything seems to be going against him. Instead of the time when Peter/Spider-man is on top of the world. I feel this makes for a much better and more interesting movie. Which is why the Spider-man movies are my favoite comic book films. But to each his own.
 
Well, I hoped to God Topher would take over but that was shot to hell the moment news was released he was cast to play Brock. I guess Jake G would be good enough but we'll see...
Yeah Tropher would have been a great replacement. Hell even he hinted at San Diego that's what he thought they were calling him in for. Befor he found out it was for Brock. I remember when people were mentioning Jake Gyllenhaal when Tobey got hirt on Seabiscuit I was like, "No not Bubble Boy!" But who knows I thought we'd never see a better Batman film then what Burton and Keaton gave us, but Nolan and Bale proved my doubts wrong (yes I relies some of you hated it though lol) Speaking of Batman Begins anyone else call it Batman Beginnings. I don't know why but my friends and I keep calling it that lol.
 
See after seeing Keatons batman, I thought he was great in it, but like Maguire I never thought he was the definitive Batman, I always believed there was someone more suited out there for the role. I was right, and I believe I'm right about Maguire and Spider-man
 
Where did I say it was 'so awesome'? I never said this. However, I did say it was a good performance. He did everything neccessary to make the character pop, and work. Very few complain about Tobey Macguire as Peter Parker / Spider-Man. You may not be a fan, but you are definetely in the minority. He did a damn fine job making the character real, with emotional depth behind him.


No one said he did anything Oscar worthy, we just said he nailed the character. And he has up until this point. He certainly hasn't done merely a bad or average job. But to be frank there is nothing else to compare him to, in terms of an on screen Hollywood Blockbuster Peter Parker, so Tobey is the standard for it and that is one of the reasons people have such an attatchment to him. He brought the character to them first, and did it well.


:dry:

That's a bold statement, especially considering you can't actually prove it ... because Maguire DID do it, and no one else did.



I hope you are reffering to others in this section, because no where did I say they should stop making Spider-man movies. They won't for the simple fact that they make so much money.

Relax, my post wasn't to actually single you out, I was speaking in general terms.
 
See after seeing Keatons batman, I thought he was great in it, but like Maguire I never thought he was the definitive Batman, I always believed there was someone more suited out there for the role. I was right, and I believe I'm right about Maguire and Spider-man

Keaton = THE Batman
Bale = THE Bruce Wayne
 
I can see where your coming from. I think the reason for that is Bale didn't have that much to do as batman in this film, merely because 3/4 of the film you saw him as bruce wayne, whereas Keaton was Batman from the opening scene. Wait till TDK when he will have some good quality time as Batman and see how he handles him
 

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