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I've always wondered which comic book Peter Parker does Tobey remind me of. Personally, his facial features and expressions seem very Steve Ditko to me, but his body structure is very Romita. What do you guys think?
 
I've always wondered which comic book Peter Parker does Tobey remind me of. Personally, his facial features and expressions seem very Steve Ditko to me, but his body structure is very Romita. What do you guys think?

Aloha,
First, Raimi is without a doubt into the Ditko era of Spider-Man. Since we are dealing with Hollywood then the nerd aspect of Peter Parker is what TM is portraying. Honestly, Peter was never as much of a nerd as TM plays him sometimes. When Romita came on board, Peter was more good looking,much more confident in himself and rode a motor cycle not a litttle scooter like in the movies.So I'd have to say early Ditko.
Spidey rules
 
Toby Maguire= Steve Ditko Peter Parker.

I’ve had enough now, we need John Romita era PP next ie= Jake Gyllenhaal
 
Toby Maguire= Steve Ditko Peter Parker.

I’ve had enough now, we need John Romita era PP next ie= Jake Gyllenhaal

Aloha,
It would be a logical progression. Jake our someone who is considered Handsome Leading man type. No offence to Tobey.He is considered more of a character actor and he's proved himself beyond compare.My concern is whoever directs Spider-Man, must read the comics as thoroughly as Raimi.Any director or actors of a comic book movie who think that they can ignore the source material is greatly mistaken.
Spidey rules in comics first and foremost
 
Maybe they should back things way up in the movies...like they're gonna in the comics...the movies have too much progression now.

They could hire that little kid from Star Wars Episode One, (making Pete much younger), and put him in the 70's. With no supporting cast and especailly no girlfriends/wives/etc.

Young is hip right now and so are the 70's.

Make it kinda like Smallville, but aim younger.

Pete's nickname could be "Manhatten" even!

The movie could start out and progress slowly, showing how Pete first realized he could shoot webbing out his wrists in 2nd grade. The twist could eventually be that he hadn't even been bitten by a spider yet!!

OR better yet, do away with the spider bite thing entirely ...and truly go alternative and retro.

A movie that put more emphasis on totem poles could in fact be quite interesting. It could work! :cwink:
 
Tobey Maguire reminds me of the Steve Ditko Peter Parker. no doubt about it.
 
Aloha,
It would be a logical progression. Jake our someone who is considered Handsome Leading man type. No offence to Tobey.He is considered more of a character actor and he's proved himself beyond compare.My concern is whoever directs Spider-Man, must read the comics as thoroughly as Raimi.Any director or actors of a comic book movie who think that they can ignore the source material is greatly mistaken.
Spidey rules in comics first and foremost

Don- I respect your opinion but you gotta admit SM3 did drop the ball somewhat compared to the previous films. The script was a cluttered mess , I reckon this was because Avi forced the issue of Venom's inclusion and as a result it screwed up the balance of the film. There was too much going on.
I also disliked the way Venom was portrayed, they got him completely wrong- no matter what any fan of SM3 says, they might like it,- but it was NOT Venom.

I don’t think Venom should have been in any of the films because he would obviously suck as he did in SM3. Anyway, I’m getting a bit off topic, Jake G would be the logical next choice for PP/SM. Good looking, I actually think he looks quite like McFarlane PP more than Romita’s.
I just think it’s time for Spider-MAN, instead of the wimpy Toby Maguire.
I also want a new director as I hated SM3.

Exactly what of Raimi’s vision was exactly so faithful to the source anyway? Organics, Altered origin, Power ranger Goblin suits, MJ living next door, Harry going to midtown etc etc…???

I just want a Spidey film where the side characters are - MJ, Gwen, Harry, FLASH! , you know the Coffee Bean crew. I want to see Spidey telling crap jokes in battle and then later meeting up w/ the Fantastic Four. The SM films just don’t feel like Spider-man to me.
 
He reminds me of the version that doesn't exist. That's not a slight against Tobey. I'm not fanatical about the movies, but 1 and 3 are okay for what they are and I really enjoyed the 2nd one.

That's beside the point though. We each have in our heads our own idea of how Peter acts, talks, his mannerisms and I'm sure my idea of who Peter is, may differ from the next reader. But Tobey does not resemble the Peter Parker from the comics in my head. Sure, he's a geek and he did a good job, but in my mind I had pictured Peter Parker differently. Just like Daredevil doesn't remind me of Ben Affleck and Jessica Alba doesn't make me think Invisible Woman. I would say the closest the Marvel movies have come to replicating the characters as in how I percieve them in my mind would be the X-Men movies... Patrick Stewart is a dead-ringer for Professor X. James Masden does look the part of Cyclops (and acts just as dull too... not a Cyclops fan). Hugh Jackman has the feral personality of Wolverine down, but should have been six inches shorter. Kelsey Grammer's Beast is perfect. Chris Bale's Batman is another example of the character on the screen matching the one in my head (as opposed to Douglas, Kilmer and Clooney who were so off the mark it wasn't funny). And while 'Punisher' wasn't a good movie, I thought Thomas Jane represented Frank Castle pretty well (despite the fact they felt the need to screw with his origin).

Like I said nothing against Tobey... I really can't think of any actor who reminds me of the Peter Parker I conjure in my imagination. So he's definitely played the part best he could.
 
Don- I respect your opinion but you gotta admit SM3 did drop the ball somewhat compared to the previous films. The script was a cluttered mess , I reckon this was because Avi forced the issue of Venom's inclusion and as a result it screwed up the balance of the film. There was too much going on.
I also disliked the way Venom was portrayed, they got him completely wrong- no matter what any fan of SM3 says, they might like it,- but it was NOT Venom.

I don’t think Venom should have been in any of the films because he would obviously suck as he did in SM3. Anyway, I’m getting a bit off topic, Jake G would be the logical next choice for PP/SM. Good looking, I actually think he looks quite like McFarlane PP more than Romita’s.
I just think it’s time for Spider-MAN, instead of the wimpy Toby Maguire.
I also want a new director as I hated SM3.

Exactly what of Raimi’s vision was exactly so faithful to the source anyway? Organics, Altered origin, Power ranger Goblin suits, MJ living next door, Harry going to midtown etc etc…???

I just want a Spidey film where the side characters are - MJ, Gwen, Harry, FLASH! , you know the Coffee Bean crew. I want to see Spidey telling crap jokes in battle and then later meeting up w/ the Fantastic Four. The SM films just don’t feel like Spider-man to me.

Aloha,
I completely agree with you as far as all of the amalgamations of Amazing continuity that went on in ALL of the Spidey movies. But in comparison to the rest of the comic book movies, at least Raimi did his homework and actually read the comics. Hollywood NEVER sticks to the book that the movie is based upon and thats something that I have been saying since I came on these boards 5 years ago. If you are looking for Hollywood to stick closely to the book you are almost always going to be disappointed. Venom is not part of the Ditko era. But for those millions of people who are not comic book fans ( like you and I) they could care less and have no clue.To this day for me -ORGANICS SUCKS and I still have that on my web site. The problem as we all know is that MONEY TALKS. The multi billion dollar success of the Spider-Man franchise has made some of the comic book fans criticisms MOOT. For me, I still want a state of the art animated feature that sticks to the comic books like glue.We can dream can't we?:yay:
Spidey rules
 
Personally, I always thought the Romita years on Amazing were the best. His work from issue 38 of ASM onward really changed the character of Spider-Man, as he was a more confident figure compared to Ditko's.

With that having been said, I see the movie Peter as a mix of Ditko's/Romita's Spidey. Tobey is very geeky/nerdy in most cases, yet in some flashes he has great confidence, as in certain scenes with MJ/Gwen to some of his battles with the villians.
 
^I'd actually agree on reviewing it, while Ditko plays a major factor the tone of the out of costume hijinx and drama and Peter's struggles are very Romita-esque. He is a mixture and Maguire's interpretation. It captures the essence of the early on character. Sure after Conway got there he dropped all geekiness and was just a regular looking charmer but I see RAimi pulling between the golden age (Lee/Romita/early Conway) and the Ditko era. He just progresses slowly into a more confidant fellow and it is not an overnight thing which while comic readers don't mind, would seem out of character for such a transition between SM1 and SM2. But looking at SM3 he is certainly more confidant and outgoing (pre-symbiote too) than he was in SM1 and by the end he is a mature adult as he gets MJ back without words and finally understands what a relationship means.

Just my 2 cents, though.
 
I see your points. I stil say that the movie's portrayed Peter as a geek, but as you said, each movie kind of progressed. In terms of the comics, Lee/Romita/Conway stories began to show Peter as a more mature adult, who can mingle with any girl, be it Gwen, MJ, or even Betty at the Bugle. I always liked Romita's Spidey because Peter was a young adult, not a teenager. I used the term young adult to illustrate the fact that Peter was more grown up here than in the Ditko stories. He is no longer at a lost for words when hanging around girls and such.

In the movies, Peter is portrayed pure Ditko-ish in SM1. He then progresses some in SM2, but by movie 3, Peter is radiating with confidence, even before he gets the symbiote.
 
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Peter Parker isn't just a dorky white guy with brown hair. There is more to the character than that.
 
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Peter Parker isn't just a dorky white guy with brown hair. There is more to the character than that.

yeah, he's smart too. :whatever:

i don't think anyone's actually oversimplifying the character that much....except perhaps you.
 
yeah, he's smart too. :whatever:

i don't think anyone's actually oversimplifying the character that much....except perhaps you.
How am I oversimplifying the character?

By saying there's more to the character than being a dorky white guy with brown hair? :whatever:

Since no one has done it yet. Please explain in what ways does Tobey Maguire resemble/act like Peter Parker?
 
^

pardon me, you're not oversimplifying the character. you're oversimplifying Tobey and Raimi's characterization of a character with supposed depth that you've failed to explain.

The onus isn't on me to explain the accuracy of Tobey's portrayal of the Peter Parker character but rather, on you to explain how you think Maguire's portrayal deviates from your preconceived notion of who Spider-Man is and how he behaves. But I guess I'll do it anyways....

Tobey's portrayal of Spider-Man uses the Stan Lee/Steve Ditko character as a basis that is built upon in the first film. The first panel of Amazing Fantasy #15 reveals Lee's use of the societal trope of the "nerd" as an important defining characteristic of the character. Flash Thompson claims that, "That bookworm wouldn't know a cha-cha from a waltz!" (Lee, p.1). His inability to impress his peers and connect to the sexual youth subculture only further pushes him into his introverted habits. Case in point, his Aunt and Uncle surprise him in the first issue with a gift. May Parker exclaims, "Peter, you know that Microscope you've always wanted? Your Uncle and I bought it for you this afternoon" (Lee, p.8). A social pariah, Peter thinks to himself, "They're the only ones who've ever been kind to me! I'll see to it that they're always happy, but the rest of the world can go hang for all I care!" (Lee, p.8). Other than a social awkwardness, a introverted devotion to his geriatric caretakers and his studies, and the cockiness of someone weak gaining power overnight, there is little that we, the reader, can gleam from Parker's personality. It is apparent that Amazing Fantasy #15 (initially imagined as a one-shot) was merely meant to tell a tragic fairytale that warns the reader against personal selfishness.
However, as the series is picked up, Lee is forced to divulge more information about the character. His rivalry with Flash Thompson is fleshed out further and in ASM #8 their "boxing match" is reminiscent of Parker's fight with Thompson near the Lockers in the first film. Using his powers to avoid Flash's blows, he ultimately uses his powers to make short work of the bully. Flashes (no pun intended) of cockiness and resentment seep out of both version of Parker as he exclaims, "Here it comes, Flash! Now smile -- I want to remember you as you look right now!" (Lee, p.8). His "me-against-the-world" is apparent in both incarnations of the character. However, the accelerated nature of the films force the character to progress faster than his comic counterpart. In this way, Tobey's interpretation of the character is more along the lines of Conway and Romita's 70's Spider-Man. Although true to his intraverted nature in his dealings with Mary Jane Watson (following a different social trope that isn't in the comics, the "girl next door"), he is able to befriend the popular, wealthy, and handsome Harry Osborn. Blah blah blah

I'm ****ing tired. The movie Spider-Man is full of corny one-liners straight out of Stan Lee pages. Parker's awkward, bumbly, and kinda corny (he drives a Vespa and likes MJ's musicals). The corniness part actually makes sense although different writers tend to flipflop on that aspect of his personality. Post-Reboot (DAMN YOU MACKIE!), Peter loved listening to old acapella tapes of his Uncle Ben (which he seemed to genuinely love beyond the mere sentimental attachment). Up until his joining of the New Avengers, most of the other heroes believed Spider-Man to be weird, not funny, and some even thought he was gay. Reminds me a bit of the quirky, dancing Peter we see in all three movies. He hasn't developed into the motorcycle riding, Gwen Stacy dating, socially savvy Peter Parker we see in the late 70's (it's an edge he seems to lose after marrying MJ in the late 80's, DAMN YOU QUESADA, DON'T KILL MJ!). It's why they introduced Ben Reilly in the first place, to bring back the light-hearted and edgy Peter Parker introduced by Lee and Romita. The Peter Parker of the 90's (and perhaps the present day) is constantly burdened by personal problems that only seem to grow larger as certain EIC's demand it. This Peter is best characterized in the 90's animated series (every other line seemed to be Peter yelling, Maaaaarrrrryyyyy Jaaaaaaanne!!!!). His classic cast of supporting characters are becoming less and less necessary to his daily adventures and the importance is shifting toward the enemy's appearance (see Carnage, Venom). These are all common complaints that can be found on this board. There's a reason that Raimi was against the inclusion of Venom in the third movie. He wanted to build on the personal relationships (such as his saga with Harry). I'm ****ing tired.

So honestly, Tobey Maguire reminds me of the Lee/Ditko Spidey mixed with the "Maaaaaarrrrryyy Jaaaaaaaane!" - ness of the 90's Animated Series.

You can now explain to me why you think Tobey is just pretending to be a "dorky white guy with brown hair".
 
He reminds me of the version that doesn't exist. That's not a slight against Tobey. I'm not fanatical about the movies, but 1 and 3 are okay for what they are and I really enjoyed the 2nd one.

That's beside the point though. We each have in our heads our own idea of how Peter acts, talks, his mannerisms and I'm sure my idea of who Peter is, may differ from the next reader. But Tobey does not resemble the Peter Parker from the comics in my head. Sure, he's a geek and he did a good job, but in my mind I had pictured Peter Parker differently. Just like Daredevil doesn't remind me of Ben Affleck and Jessica Alba doesn't make me think Invisible Woman. I would say the closest the Marvel movies have come to replicating the characters as in how I percieve them in my mind would be the X-Men movies... Patrick Stewart is a dead-ringer for Professor X. James Masden does look the part of Cyclops (and acts just as dull too... not a Cyclops fan). Hugh Jackman has the feral personality of Wolverine down, but should have been six inches shorter. Kelsey Grammer's Beast is perfect. Chris Bale's Batman is another example of the character on the screen matching the one in my head (as opposed to Douglas, Kilmer and Clooney who were so off the mark it wasn't funny). And while 'Punisher' wasn't a good movie, I thought Thomas Jane represented Frank Castle pretty well (despite the fact they felt the need to screw with his origin).

Like I said nothing against Tobey... I really can't think of any actor who reminds me of the Peter Parker I conjure in my imagination. So he's definitely played the part best he could.

Thats Keaton. Michael Keaton. And I think he played a great Batman. But I agree with everything else you have said.
I think the 3 characters they really nailed in the movies (closest match to comic counterpart) would have to be JK Simmons as JJ, Defoe as Osborn, and of course P Stewarts Xavier. I did also enjoy Franco's Harry Osborn.
 
Personally, I always thought the Romita years on Amazing were the best. His work from issue 38 of ASM onward really changed the character of Spider-Man, as he was a more confident figure compared to Ditko's.

With that having been said, I see the movie Peter as a mix of Ditko's/Romita's Spidey. Tobey is very geeky/nerdy in most cases, yet in some flashes he has great confidence, as in certain scenes with MJ/Gwen to some of his battles with the villians.

I agree, I always saw him as an amalgam of Ditko and Romita's Peter Parker, except for that dancing.......I don't know where the hell that came from.:huh:
 
I agree, I always saw him as an amalgam of Ditko and Romita's Peter Parker, except for that dancing.......I don't know where the hell that came from.:huh:

To borrow a song title from Frank Zappa, Peter Parker is a "Dancin' Fool" :whatever:
 

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