Transformers The User Review Thread [SPOILERS IN ABUNDANCE!]

[megatron01]

For me the only real problem I had was the underwhelming and anti-climatic Prime Vs Megatron battle.
But I do have some little irks:
How come Frenzy managed to be fully restored from just his head by only touching the Cube, but BumbleBee couldn't even get his legs back?
And seeing as the Cube was the reason for all Transformer life, why did it only create Decepticons on Earth?

Well, I think an epic battle between Op and Megs should be reserved later.
From the Q & A forum with the writer, The cube didn't repair BB cords but the laser that Ratchet pointed at him eventualy did.

The raw energy generated by All Spark creates life that are raw and not refind so it is vicious. That's why BB didn't want to get infected by it bec it might corrupt him. It didn't affect Frency because he is already corrupted anyway.

 

[Boiiinng]

From Prime's bio "the only weakness he could be accused of having is being too compassionate and concerned about the safety of others. He would be a more effective military commander if he were more ruthless, but then he wouldn't be Optimus Prime."

Optimus Prime always finds another way. He wouldn't kill Megatron if he could sacrifice himself for the same ends. He just doesn't do that. It would be totally out of character for Prime to request that he or his Autobots willfully kill Megatron to destroy the cube.

He sure didn't think twice about killing Bonecrusher.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

He sure didn't think twice about killing Bonecrusher.

Well actually severing the head of a Transformer doesn't really kill them but....it's a little different when your enemy tackles you and is trying to kill you. Coming up with a plan to destroy the Allspark is one thing. Being jump tackled by a powerful adversary is another. That was done in a flight of passion, fights don't give you much time to sit and think about your next move.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Ah, you see, I never thought Optimus Prime that ***** and stupid.

Ummm well sacrificing oneself doesn't really fall under being a ***** . But if you need an example from the cartoon you can look at how he didn't risk Hot Rod's safety to fire upon Megatron. Or how he was unwilling to use the Matrix to create living war machines in the comics. Or even how he voluntarily deactivated himself for cheating in a match against Megatron (In the game he harmed others in the process of defeating Megatron -- something he vowed never to do in reality).

In this movie we have two things at play. One he would be destroying Megatron's life when he didn't HAVE to. Two he would be risking his Autobots safety and or Sam's safety by asking them to shove it in any chest but his own. All steming from Optimus' compassion.

Even in Transformers The Movie (1986) we see he doesn't have a problem firing upon his enemy when he himself is fired upon, or even initiating a fight (as he did in this film). But when it comes to killing for any purpose but his own personal safety at that moment, he has a problem with it.

Optimus may be tough, but he royally sucks as a military leader. In the cartoon, for the twenty years we know of, he lost control of Cybertron to the Decepticons, brought a War to another planet, was forced to exile his Autobots twice, and even allowed for the events of Ultimate Doom to come to pass. And in the comics he chose voluntary deactivation in PLACE ot Megatron having to commit suicide. He even surrendered to the Decepticons on Earth. Optimus is consistently unable to make cold, rational decisions...and turns out to be a much better diplomat.

I myself wonder if it weren't for Jazz, Prowl, Ironhide and later Kup and Magnus as military advisors whether the Autobots would have lasted a year on Earth. Prime may be a hero, and may be smart, but when it comes to winning a war he needs help.

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

Ummm well sacrificing oneself doesn't really fall under being a ***** . But if you need an example from the cartoon you can look at how he didn't risk Hot Rod's safety to fire upon Megatron. Or how he was unwilling to use the Matrix to create living war machines in the comics. Or even how he voluntarily deactivated himself for cheating in a match against Megatron (In the game he harmed others in the process of defeating Megatron -- something he vowed never to do in reality).

In this movie we have two things at play. One he would be destroying Megatron's life when he didn't HAVE to. Two he would be risking his Autobots safety and or Sam's safety by asking them to shove it in any chest but his own. All steming from Optimus' compassion.

Even in Transformers The Movie (1986) we see he doesn't have a problem firing upon his enemy when he himself is fired upon, or even initiating a fight (as he did in this film). But when it comes to killing for any purpose but his own personal safety at that moment, he has a problem with it.

Optimus may be tough, but he royally sucks as a military leader. In the cartoon, for the twenty years we know of, he lost control of Cybertron to the Decepticons, brought a War to another planet, was forced to exile his Autobots twice, and even allowed for the events of Ultimate Doom to come to pass. And in the comics he chose voluntary deactivation in PLACE ot Megatron having to commit suicide. He even surrendered to the Decepticons on Earth. Optimus is consistently unable to make cold, rational decisions...and turns out to be a much better diplomat.

I myself wonder if it weren't for Jazz, Prowl, Ironhide and later Kup and Magnus as military advisors whether the Autobots would have lasted a year on Earth. Prime may be a hero, and may be smart, but when it comes to winning a war he needs help.

****ing A. Well said!

 

[Starscreamer]

Ummm well sacrificing oneself doesn't really fall under being a ***** . But if you need an example from the cartoon you can look at how he didn't risk Hot Rod's safety to fire upon Megatron. Or how he was unwilling to use the Matrix to create living war machines in the comics. Or even how he voluntarily deactivated himself for cheating in a match against Megatron (In the game he harmed others in the process of defeating Megatron -- something he vowed never to do in reality).

In this movie we have two things at play. One he would be destroying Megatron's life when he didn't HAVE to. Two he would be risking his Autobots safety and or Sam's safety by asking them to shove it in any chest but his own. All steming from Optimus' compassion.

Even in Transformers The Movie (1986) we see he doesn't have a problem firing upon his enemy when he himself is fired upon, or even initiating a fight (as he did in this film). But when it comes to killing for any purpose but his own personal safety at that moment, he has a problem with it.

Optimus may be tough, but he royally sucks as a military leader. In the cartoon, for the twenty years we know of, he lost control of Cybertron to the Decepticons, brought a War to another planet, was forced to exile his Autobots twice, and even allowed for the events of Ultimate Doom to come to pass. And in the comics he chose voluntary deactivation in PLACE ot Megatron having to commit suicide. He even surrendered to the Decepticons on Earth. Optimus is consistently unable to make cold, rational decisions...and turns out to be a much better diplomat.

I myself wonder if it weren't for Jazz, Prowl, Ironhide and later Kup and Magnus as military advisors whether the Autobots would have lasted a year on Earth. Prime may be a hero, and may be smart, but when it comes to winning a war he needs help.

I thought Optimus was pretty hard core in the animated movie! "Dinobots DESTROY Devastator!" -OP First time I ever heard Optimus Prime order a Decepticon destroyed. And Optimus went Megatron hunting with a single purpose to stop him once and for all. In this film it almost seemed like Prime was holding back with Megatron because he OWNED Bonecrusher with ease of course Megatron owned Jazz with ease.

 

[DOG LIPS]

Was anyone else bugged by Frenzy's eyes being blue?

 

[Spade]

I found it really odd, like they had forgotten for a moment what alignment he was during the rendering. Someone should ask the concept artist why he gave Frenzy blue eyes instead of red ones.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I thought Optimus was pretty hard core in the animated movie! "Dinobots DESTROY Devastator!" -OP First time I ever heard Optimus Prime order a Decepticon destroyed.

Not to claim Optimus is 100% consistent but Devestator is not an autonomous robot. Destroying Devestator simply involves breaking him into his respective parts...not necessarily killing him.

However he does have other troops, and for something like Devestator...who is a little more heavy duty than others, sending the Dinobots after him may simply be out of necessity at this point.

Also remember Megatron had killed like 10 of Prime's closest friends at that point - he was pissed.

 

[Marvin]

For me the only real problem I had was the underwhelming and anti-climatic Prime Vs Megatron battle.

superman returns

But I do have some little irks:

How come Frenzy managed to be fully restored from just his head by only touching the Cube, but BumbleBee couldn't even get his legs back?


And seeing as the Cube was the reason for all Transformer life, why did it only create Decepticons on Earth?

the cubes nrg is random it's not like said person touches said button and it heals...

the cube doesn't make only decepticons...it gives life to mechanical objects
so when it brings something to life...said object is acting on it natural primal(savage) instincts...shoot everything in sight(note we didn't see any bow to megatron or anything)

if anything it says a little something about good and evil...

 

[Jick]

my review is simple.
this is just the best movie I ever saw. and I'm not even a Transformers fan. but I loved. all the Transformers were awesome...specially Optimus, Ironhide, Bumblebee and Megatron (his voice was the best). the action, the story and the sound were just perfect. Just hope the second will be even better.

 

[Marvin]

So, I saw it again. ALL SORTS OF SPOILERS PEOPLE!!!

Watched a very good quality copy downloaded of the magic of the interweb round at my bredrins house on his 42inch LCD badboy...

legal or no...that sounds like fun...

...Special effects still blew me away, but boy oh boy did I notice how...awful the story/writing is. Some of the scenes, taken out of context, are still entertaining, but as a whole the film really dissapoints me in so many ways.

guess u got what u paid for..

I felt no bond between BB and Sam. At all.

i did

The relationship between Megs and Starscream - they shared, what, 4 lines between each other? "You failed me again Starscream!"!!! I fail to understand how some fans can be satisfied with that.

fans are happy that they atleast got that....imagine if u will
Starscream and megatron have say...
soundwave/Megatron like relationship?

it was there and it was right...
just like in the show...it'll get "worse" as it goes along

Most of the Autobots dialouge was cringeworthy.

same could be said of the show

The BB vs Barracaide fight...let down of the summer movie season, for me.

hmm wondering if u saw the Megatron/Optimus fight..

The 'hiding at the house' part. Are these autobots that dumb? Just park on the friggin road, ******s, you bangin about the back garden's not gonna help is it?!

believe it or not that scene got so many laughs and cheers...
just as many as if the bot just parked and sam got his ****...
...it's called entertaining the patrons

my reasoning...getting the glasses was mega important...the only reason they shouldn't have torn the house open is because that may have damaged the glasses...
if u watch the scene closely, the bots are actually looking in and around the house themselves....hence..."autobots, Recon"

one of the many reasons u can watch this film twice...unlike say...SR

John Voight. ****e.

always is

The capture of BB. Where the **** did the rest of the Autobots **** off too when this was happening? Let Ironhide pop a few warning shots off with his cannons, or, just blow the **** outta S7 - no sacrifice, no victory, nahmean?

BB capture was vital to the plot(bad story telling?)

if ur problem is with the autobots letting him go?
BB wasn't the reason Prime and the others are here...they have **** to do...and the soldiers under primes command know this...

plus that would have directly resulted in human casualty...prime explained this...

that being said...if a vital decepticon was captured...what do u think the decepticons would have done?

these are autobots...let them act like it

The glasses. Do not get me started on them.

go on

Megs vs Prime. The greatest fight that any TF fan should have ever seen. What a dissapointment.

I liked it. sure i wanted more but unlike neo vs smith in the Matrix part one...there was tons of other story telling going on all over the place..

megs is bigger stronger...he owned prime, end of story

prime should stick to the 30foot and down bots...
bring on Prime vs Starscream

maybe next time...no thanks to u...the money made from this film will warrant a budget big enough to house all of your wonderful ideas and or needs

Brawl/Devestator. Dude had like 8 cannons, man. He sould have blown all them soldiers away in like 8 seconds. Must've been a bad shot or something.

he did the first time around(blackout at least)...difference between that time and this time?

Ironhide doing backflips...
Jazz twisting his cannon around...
etc

Josh Dumalalaals or what ever he's called taking out Blackout...naaah!!!

last time he didn't have the right ammo

Jazz. But watching him get tore in two made me happy.

me too

The hacker plotline. What a wast of time.

yes...next time the gov't gets hacked like that...they should not, get techy/hackers involved to figure out what happened and how to fix it

And the whole..."If it comes to it, put the cube in my chest" bollocks. I know, why did'nt Prime, or any one else, think it could've been easier to put it one of the Decepticons chests to destroy it, or better, Megs - Two birds one stone, right? Oh, Sam figured that one out, but Prime and the other 'bots...no, they couldn't think that smart. WORST. ENDING. EVER.

simple

Just because Prime and co didn't want Megatron to have the cube....doesn't mean they didn't want it..
Prime says at the end...that now that the cubes gone, so are there chances of saving Cybertron!

Retrieving the cube was always the mission...Stopping Megs from getting it first was a parameter...

ergo...last resort

 

[Marvin]

my review is simple.
this is just the best movie I ever saw. and I'm not even a Transformers fan. but I loved. all the Transformers were awesome...specially Optimus, Ironhide, Bumblebee and Megatron (his voice was the best). the action, the story and the sound were just perfect. Just hope the second will be even better.

makes sense....
non fans don't have their childhood ruined by not having Megs and StarScream...***** at each other a little longer..
or BB be a beatle

 

[Jick]

makes sense....
non fans don't have their childhood ruined by not having Megs and StarScream...***** at each other a little longer..
or BB be a beatle

yeah but I know then only from Beast Wars and Beast Machines. their personalities looked fine to me.
don't you liked the movie?

 

[XXTBWCXX]

For me the only real problem I had was the underwhelming and anti-climatic Prime Vs Megatron battle.

But I do have some little irks:

How come Frenzy managed to be fully restored from just his head by only touching the Cube, but BumbleBee couldn't even get his legs back?

And seeing as the Cube was the reason for all Transformer life, why did it only create Decepticons on Earth?

I for one didn't think the Optimus Prime/Megatron fight was underwhelming or anti-climatic, just because of that fact that it was a great fight and showed all of their moves (even though it would've been excellent if Optimus used his sword/axe on Megatron), and even though the ending of the battle could've been better, the way it ended was fine for me, because it's the first movie, leave the chances of bigger, more epic battles for sequels to come. It could've showed the whole battle, yes, but it showed enough and also showed enough of Bumblebee, Brawl/Devastator, Ironhide, Starscream and even Ratchet. Plus had to show the soldiers interact during the battle against Brawl/Devastator and Blackout.

And the Cube regenerated Frenzy's whole body because Frenzy is small, and gave out enough energy to do so, and with Bumblebee, I believe that it gave energy out to heal his voice, and I'm assuming it can only work on one thing at once, plus Bumblebee is way more bigger than Frenzy, it would have to give out a lot of energy to regenerate Bumblebee's legs real quick.

And when Sam accidentally dropped the Cube, it made robots out of certain things, but I wouldn't say they were Decepticons. Here, on Earth, robots wouldn't know what to do with humans (Autobots were friendly at first to find the All Spark, then said they owe Sam their lives after HE saved them all from Megatron), so, the new TF's were just scared when they were "created": the Nokia cell phone was freaked out inside that box so it attacked; the X-Box, Escalade steering wheel and the Mountain Dew vending machine were also "afraid" of the humans, so they attacked...they came out with no minds, no labels (Decepticons, Autobots), just did what robots would do if they encountered a different species: shoot at people, lol.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I for one didn't think the Optimus Prime/Megatron fight was underwhelming or anti-climatic,

I did find the fight somewhat underwhelming, however I didn't find it anti-climatic. It was climatic for the movie. I think the next film will be able to showcase the characters a little more fully.

 

[megatron01]

I didn't find it anti-climatic either, when I first saw the movie, I thought it was almost over when Sam fell to the roof top (I would've been content with that-there were already so much that went on) BUt, no, the movie wasn't over yet and then I saw Prime climbing down the building And I said "wow, where are they getting the money to do all this-this movie is trying to be really epic) and then the fight between Megs and Prime, with prime being thrown into the building, etc,....I really felt like I got more from what I had paid for...............like one of the critics said after the movie you want to pay the theater more money...........Yeah leave some more excitememnt for the sequel.

 

[Marvin]

I didn't find it anti-climatic either, when I first saw the movie, I thought it was almost over when Sam fell to the roof top (I would've been content with that-there were already so much that went on) BUt, no, the movie wasn't over yet and then I saw Prime climbing down the building And I said "wow, where are they getting the money to do all this-this movie is trying to be really epic) and then the fight between Megs and Prime, with prime being thrown into the building, etc,....I really felt like I got more from what I had paid for...............like one of the critics said after the movie you want to pay the theater more money...........Yeah leave some more excitememnt for the sequel.

well said

i love how we can all be high and mighty now that it's all said and done...
when the truth is
with half the budget of most, this movie just kept giving and giving...and truly was "Epic"

see Superman Returns if u forgot what that means...

where did they get the money?
they didn't, it's just shot like Armageddon...with a powerful lens...

see superman returns if u don't know what that is

 

[Marvin]

yeah but I know then only from Beast Wars and Beast Machines. their personalities looked fine to me.
don't you liked the movie?

it was fantastic...

after all is said and done, i can see alot of what needs to be improved, but that doesn't make me look down on what was achieved...

(for example, if Megs ripped off one of optimus's arms....that would have killed it)

 

[Danger Mouse]

well said

i love how we can all be high and mighty now that it's all said and done...
when the truth is
with half the budget of most, this movie just kept giving and giving...and truly was "Epic"

see Superman Returns if u forgot what that means...

where did they get the money?
they didn't, it's just shot like Armageddon...with a powerful lens...

see superman returns if u don't know what that is

Best comparison ever. Bay should give Singer some lessons.

 

[Hotwire]

well said

i love how we can all be high and mighty now that it's all said and done...
when the truth is
with half the budget of most, this movie just kept giving and giving...and truly was "Epic"

see Superman Returns if u forgot what that means...

where did they get the money?
they didn't, it's just shot like Armageddon...with a powerful lens...

see superman returns if u don't know what that is

Very good compairison. I was working in a store this weekend that had Superman Returns running in and endless loop, and there just wasn't that much action. I understand that directors are trying to give comic book characters depth and such, but that's not what keeps people buying comics. It's the action of them. Hell, Superman started out in "Action Comics!" I feel Bay gave us fans exactly what we needed in a Transformers film, balls to the wall, non-stop, kick your teeth down your throat, action! He kept it coming and never let the film get boring.

 

[incubat]

I know it's kinda late, but I just saw the movie yesterday and I have to say it was better than I expected, so much better...I don't have much time so I'm just going to say what I liked the most and the least:
Most: actually, I'm not sure I can say I liked one thing better, I liked almost everything about the movie.
Least: Jazz getting killed (altough I have to admit I laughed when Megatrons "actually, I want two pieces").
Anyway, can't wait to see it again... I'll try and post more ideas later

 

[CGHulk]

Megan Fox played the typical Michael Bay heroine... A beautiful girl who they say is not just a beauty, but has brains too, but is still depicted within the film as nothing more then eye candy for the male audience who in the end is. Don't you love how she's talking about how intelligent she is while the camera just focuses on her ass? Now, I don't normally complain about depiction of women in movies. But this was pushing it. Simply because they were trying to talk about how she was more than eye candy, and portrayed her as just that!

 

[Marvin]

ur kinda right

still i'm not sure where u've seen bay do this before(say their brainy but just show glam shots...i know he does it with the males)

thing is...the only scene where this really happened is when she was under BB's hood(shots of how hot she is)
and story telling wise(something bay "can't" do)
we were experience that scene through Sam(shia's) eyes!

theres a point to these things

 

[Dark Knight]

Spielberg should direct the sequel!