The Villain of Tomorrow Thread

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Everything points to Brainiac but you never know with Gunn.

 

[FrankenCastle]

Also have Metallica appearing in the beginning would be cool

Actual superheroes.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Everything points to Brainiac but you never know with Gunn.

More like you never know with WB lol.

I was watching this video this morning by M Enterprises (can’t repost because of language) and they talked about the “Brainiac Curse” and went through all the times he almost appeared in a movie and then WB pulled the plug. And while most of those movies probably would have sucked at least it might have given Brainy more name recognition outside of comic book and animation fans.

Hopefully it finally happens but I have to admit, when Man of Tomorrow was announced, I was a little disheartened to see that the movie would feature Lex again in a prominent role. I love Lex but I feel like WB views him as Superman’s only marketable villain, aside from Zod (and goddamnit Zod had better not be in this movie; I would rather Toyman be the villain).

Now, Superman and Lex teaming up to defeat a larger threat is interesting and hopefully it IS Brainiac but you could also do that story with Superman and Kara as your co-leads (or just Superman) and have Lex cameo at most. But we’ll see.

 

[FrankenCastle]

the “Brainiac Curse”

I hope they'll keep Jon Peter's Skull Ship, even if it's similar to Knowhere.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

More like you never know with WB lol.

I was watching this video this morning by M Enterprises (can’t repost because of language) and they talked about the “Brainiac Curse” and went through all the times he almost appeared in a movie and then WB pulled the plug. And while most of those movies probably would have sucked at least it might have given Brainy more name recognition outside of comic book and animation fans.

Hopefully it finally happens but I have to admit, when Man of Tomorrow was announced, I was a little disheartened to see that the movie would feature Lex again in a prominent role. I love Lex but I feel like WB views him as Superman’s only marketable villain, aside from Zod (and goddamnit Zod had better not be in this movie; I would rather Toyman be the villain).

Now, Superman and Lex teaming up to defeat a larger threat is interesting and hopefully it IS Brainiac but you could also do that story with Superman and Kara as your co-leads (or just Superman) and have Lex cameo at most. But we’ll see.

I think if Gunn wants to use Brainiac he will. Gunn likes to use more obscure characters though and putting his own spin on them. Hopefully we find out soon.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I think if Gunn wants to use Brainiac he will. Gunn likes to use more obscure characters though and putting his own spin on them. Hopefully we find out soon.

Yeah I was really just joking; if he wants to use him this time, it will happen. It’s just frustrating knowing how close we came to getting Brainiac so many times.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

I guess I've never viewed Lex as just a Superman villain. He's part of his supporting cast. Even before MOT was announced, I always said Lex's story should play out over the course of several movies. Having Clark forced to team up with Lex in the sequel, after what he went through in the last film, is a clever twist.

 

[Deck Rickard]

I guess I've never viewed Lex as just a Superman villain. He's part of his supporting cast. Even before MOT was announced, I always said Lex's story should play out over the course of several movies. Having Clark forced to team up with Lex in the sequel, after what he went through in the last film, is a clever twist.

That is a good point. Lex is unique in that he’s both Superman’s arch enemy and a part of his supporting cast. That said, I wouldn’t be opposed to a Superman movie where he doesn’t appear at all or just has a cameo.

 

[Lily Adler]

My hope, is that it's Brainiac .

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That last bit of art is horrible. Kara is too busy trying to pretend to be a model while Clark is protecting Kandor from Brainiac.

 

[Lily Adler]

Everything points to Brainiac but you never know with Gunn.

Gunn: we hear you. So we're doing the Injustice Gang and Alexander Luthor.

 

[DCDAVE]

That is a good point. Lex is unique in that he’s both Superman’s arch enemy and a part of his supporting cast. That said, I wouldn’t be opposed to a Superman movie where he doesn’t appear at all or just has a cameo.

I am more looking forward to seeing Lex meeting Bruce Wayne in the DCU then Superman meeting Batman.

 

[Silvermoth]

I hope they'll keep Jon Peter's Skull Ship, even if it's similar to Knowhere.

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Yessss!!!! Love this!

 

[donuts]

I don't know about the Lex Luthor complaints. If I had to reboot or make a Superman movie, I wouldn't leave Lex out. He's part of Metropolis , and of the supporting cast. Even when he's not the main villain, I'd keep him around somehow and somewhere.

 

[Silvermoth]

Nicholas was definitely a secret weapon during the promo era of the first film so 100% they’re not wasting him

 

[SupermansPal]

I`m honestly not sure about Brainiac, he feels more like a grand finale villain to me, but I also can't think any other threat that would put Superman and Lex on the same side.

 

[Lily Adler]

I`m honestly not sure about Brainiac, he feels more like a grand finale villain to me, but I also can't think any other threat that would put Superman and Lex on the same side.

Mongul?

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Brainiac is a far more logical choice than Mongul, especially his possible ties to Supergirl and Krypton.

Brainiac is not Darkseid or Thanos. He is still primarily a Superman villain. There are stories where he can work as a Justice League villain, but that is not something he has to be saved for.

 

[Deck Rickard]

Yeah, IMO, Mongul feels more like a finale villain if you’re doing War World. That feels so huge and crazy that you save it for your finale movie. And Luthor probably wouldn’t have a big role.

On the other hand. War World could probably be its own trilogy and a third movie for this saga could involve Lex using Brainiac’s tech to build Metallo and some other threats.

 

[J.Drangal]

With Luthor's pocket dimensions, Peacemaker's interdimensional portal, and statements about the series being directly connected to the next chapter of this “Super Saga,” I'm going to place my bet on... Mr. Mxyzptlk.
There's a real challenge in making this rather ridiculous character threatening, and that's something I can imagine inspiring Gunn. It would certainly stand out from the usual antagonists in this genre.

 

[Deck Rickard]

It would. But (take this however you want) but Gunn said on the Stern show that he’s not a big fan of Mxy and prefers Batmite.

 

[J.Drangal]

It would. But (take this however you want) but Gunn said on the Stern show that he’s not a big fan of Mxy and prefers Batmite.

... Can I withdraw my bet?

 

[Deck Rickard]

... Can I withdraw my bet?

Haha well I think he also said that Mxy was a villain he considered for the first Superman movie so you might be right.

 

[DCDAVE]

I`m honestly not sure about Brainiac, he feels more like a grand finale villain to me, but I also can't think any other threat that would put Superman and Lex on the same side.

Darksied Just finished watching the Father’s episode from the animated series.

 

[NotToday]

Nicholas was definitely a secret weapon during the promo era of the first film so 100% they’re not wasting him

Or that Corenswet/Hoult chemistry! We'll see if that translates to success.

The last time an antagonist had to team up with the hero in a sequel was Aquaman 2, right?

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

If we don’t get Brainiac here, I’ll genuinely be sad. I’ve wanted to see him for so long. And every time we get a new Superman movie I hope he’s in it.

Going clear back to Superman Lives!

Gunn has my support in whatever he does though after Superman.