The Wrestling Thread Can Wrestle MICHAEL COLE If It Wants To!! - Part 106

[runawayboulder]

On a side note, my username isn't just based on my HHH fandom, those are actually my initials lol.

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Lobo]

Runter Rearst Relmsley?

 

[X Knight]

WWE 2k14 sounds promising, if nothing for the chance to play as Warrior ( who was always my favorite growing up ).

But, I really hope they include a proper Career mode this time. Have your CAW start out as a new trainee in NXT. work your way up to house shows. then to Raw and Smackdown. before headlining PPVs and finally the granddaddy of them all.......WrestleMania.

 

[X Knight]

Velvet Sky, the future Mrs. Nell2ThaIzzay

thanks.

also, there's a blonde backstage interviewer in WWE. a few weeks ago, Sheamus called her cute.

who is she?

 

[Darkness Falls]

sad part is its kind of true

 

[TripleR]

Runter Rearst Relmsley?

I wish. I could make a fortune as a Triple H/Scooby Doo impersonator.

 

[NDX]

Runter Rearst Relmsley?

Ruh roh, Robo!

 

[runawayboulder]

Why is there not a thread for the hot women of wrestling?

I need a dedicated area to satisfy my perverted needs dammit!!!!

 

[TripleR]

Ruh roh, Robo!

My thoughts exactly.

 

[ImWithTeamConan]

Noticing the Triple H debate here recently there's one point that I've made here before that I think deserves repeating.

I totally agree that he should have put Punk over in the end, but I don't agree with the common thought that his inclusion in the angle was just so HHH could latch onto someone's popularity. I really think his inclusion was in a way needed.

At the time they were really pushing Punks pipe bomb promo style and anti-establishment nature. The feud with Cena was too young to completely run into the ground and there were really limited options for who else could go toe to toe with Punk on the mic. Alberto or Miz or almost anyone else would've been completely outclassed by Punk, not to mention not nearly provide him with enough material for kayfabe breaking pipe bomb promos.

Some of my favorite parts of that angle were Punk saying things we've all been thinking, and HHH was the perfect verbal sparring partner for that. I really feel Hunter's involvement kept Punks momentum going because he gave Punk someone to really go after in promos, while being good enough to not be outmatched. Again, I agree and wish that HHH ended up putting him over in the ring in the end, but I still think the whole thing still benefitted Punk because it gave him plenty of ammunition that he used in some great promos to further his character.

I agree, working with HHH helped further the angle and push Punk, but story-line wise they really butchered it after that match.

I think everything worked logically up to this match (Cena/Punk, ADR cashing in, Kevin Nash), after this match it just made no sense (Nash was texted by......himself?), and part of it is I think either WWE Creative had no idea what they were building to OR HHH just wanted a win over Punk and got one in there.

There was absolutely NO payoff to the conspiracy angle. And they had a perfect lead-in to that angle with the Mystery RAW GM. They also had the perfect candidate in Johnny Ace, who was getting major heat. But then it just dissipated and Ace went from feuding with Punk (which made sense) to feuding with Cena (which nobody cared about).

 

[TripleR]

I agree, working with HHH helped further the angle and push Punk, but story-line wise they really butchered it after that match.

I think everything worked logically up to this match (Cena/Punk, ADR cashing in, Kevin Nash), after this match it just made no sense (Nash was texted by......himself?), and part of it is I think either WWE Creative had no idea what they were building to OR HHH just wanted a win over Punk and got one in there.

There was absolutely NO payoff to the conspiracy angle. And they had a perfect lead-in to that angle with the Mystery RAW GM. They also had the perfect candidate in Johnny Ace, who was getting major heat. But then it just dissipated and Ace went from feuding with Punk (which made sense) to feuding with Cena (which nobody cared about).

Yeah I think (maybe I'm naive to believe it) that there really was some wellness issue with Nash that messed up the original plan, because seriously look at his health*history plus he's an older dude. When that happened they pulled the trigger on the HHH match too soon and it screwed up the plan. Then after Punk won the title they turned him into too much of a clear cut face and they got cold feet about turning HHH heel to go after him again.

As far as the Johnny Ace thing, by that point I think it was just the mentality that if Cena isn't in the title picture they wanted to still keep him as the top act, and there was no better way than to have him take on the authority figure. It was bs but fits in with the mentality of the time that if Cena isn't champ he still has to be the focal point of the show above the championship, which unfortunately seemed to be their view during the first half of Punk's title reign.

 

[sweetre15]

Yeah I think (maybe I'm naive to believe it) that there really was some wellness issue with Nash that messed up the original plan, because seriously look at his health*history plus he's an older dude. When that happened they pulled the trigger on the HHH match too soon and it screwed up the plan. Then after Punk won the title they turned him into too much of a clear cut face and they got cold feet about turning HHH heel to go after him again

His quads probably tore again...

 

[TripleR]

His quads probably tore again...

He probably ran to the phone too fast when HHH called to ask him to get involved in the angle.

 

[Warhammer]

Ah I recall the night (not so) fondly that I made that comment.

Oh yeah, I remember now.



I fondly remember that night. Alot of us here in the thread were dying of laughter.

 

[Warhammer]

Runter Rearst Relmsley?

Ruh roh, Robo!

 

[Lobo]

 

[sweetre15]

Oh yeah, I remember now.



I fondly remember that night. Alot of us here in the thread were dying of laughter.

I need to go on a Superhero Hype Nostalgia Hunt and find that lol.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Duh.

Almost sounds like you're saying that as a bad thing.

This is real life bro. Real life.

The worst part is, Nell's costume is the same as Velvet's because A) it is also bottomless, and B) pictures of it are also widely available online.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Don't forget that Raw had a great divas division with Molly Holly, Trish, Lita, Jazz, Victoria, and Mickie James.

The only consistent flaw of Smackdown at the time was that they had divas like Torrie Wilson and Dawn Marie participating in boneheaded bisexual angles thanks to Stephanie McMahon lol.

Otherwise Smackdown was the A-show in terms of quality for quite a while until the later half of 2005 when the angles got a bit more Bone headed.

The Women's divsion was very good at that point, but you had to sit through a lot of crap for their ten minutes lol.

Actually that angle with Dawn and Torrie was ALL Heyman.

And this comes around to our fundamental disagreement about wrestling, as I don't think that taking the pin or not for someone is going to effect things one way or another.

Orton, Sheamus, and Punk all did well for themselves without ever getting over on Triple H, and at one point or another, every single one of these guys was the #2 guy behind only Cena -after- their work with Triple H, and Punk currently is the #2 guy and has been for the better part of 2 years now.

And the only reason why Orton isn't higher status now has nothing to do with Triple H and everything to do with his own problems that he's been causing for himself.

To me, this is just another perfect example of "getting the pin doesn't make the guy, the guy makes the guy". Triple H didn't do the job for any of these guys, and yet, they have all gone on to great success in the company since working with Triple H.

Now I do agree on one thing - if I was in charge of booking, CM Punk would have continued / restarted his feud against Triple H going into WrestleMania that year, and CM Punk would have gone over on Triple H that year at WrestleMania, but on the whole, I just can't hold the same grudge towards Triple H that everyone else does.

We agree on the Punk aspect so I'll skip that.

Orton was being built as the killer heel in 2009, long after his beahviourhal issues. Vince, Triple H and Shane then make him their ***** before Triple H beats him and then uses a tag match to pass the title to Randy. Triple H knows in order to be a badass heel you need to kick some ass, check how many times he did so in 2000, he didn't give Randy the same help that Foley, Rock, Austin, Y2J, Benoit and Angle all gave him, there's no defense for that Nell, you don't build a killer by making him a soft loser.

Sheamus was being labeled the new destroyer, he and Triple H shared wins even if HHH as usual had the match booked to protect his ego. However when Triple H comes back he doesn't even have a match with Sheamus who put him on the shelf, instead he walks out, pedigrees him through a table and walks away, end of feud, no match just Sheamus treat like a complete and utter nobody, tell me, is that how you'd build a destroyer?

Jeff Hardy, the most over babyface WWE had managed to develop since Austin, he has a storyline that was described as his journey to beat Triple H and prove he deserved to be a WWE champion....What happened? Triple H beat him 3 straight times and the instead of giving the story it's logical ending of losing to Jeff, he instead is booked in a triple threat where Edge takes the pin and thus voids the whole point of a 4 month angle.

Noticing the Triple H debate here recently there's one point that I've made here before that I think deserves repeating.

I totally agree that he should have put Punk over in the end, but I don't agree with the common thought that his inclusion in the angle was just so HHH could latch onto someone's popularity. I really think his inclusion was in a way needed.

At the time they were really pushing Punks pipe bomb promo style and anti-establishment nature. The feud with Cena was too young to completely run into the ground and there were really limited options for who else could go toe to toe with Punk on the mic. Alberto or Miz or almost anyone else would've been completely outclassed by Punk, not to mention not nearly provide him with enough material for kayfabe breaking pipe bomb promos.

Some of my favorite parts of that angle were Punk saying things we've all been thinking, and HHH was the perfect verbal sparring partner for that. I really feel Hunter's involvement kept Punks momentum going because he gave Punk someone to really go after in promos, while being good enough to not be outmatched. Again, I agree and wish that HHH ended up putting him over in the ring in the end, but I still think the whole thing still benefitted Punk because it gave him plenty of ammunition that he used in some great promos to further his character.

I didn't have any problem with the initial angle, in fact I was one who said it was the right call for Triple H to win their match at Night of Champions. However logically your red hot face turns out to be right about Triple H's corruption and it results in a big rematch.......only that didn't happen, instead your newly minted face apologizes to Triple H and proceeds top step aside while the angle with Nash moves to Triple H and his CEO storyline......the dude is a leech.

Oh yeah, I remember now.



I fondly remember that night. Alot of us here in the thread were dying of laughter.

I have my monents!

 

[LOBO3315a]

Everyone Ready for Mr Monday Night?

 

[LOBO3315a]

Sabertooth Vs Wolverine Recap!

 

[TX85]

Show time!

 

[DarkSentinel]

Paging Les. Les DoDis.

 

[Van Petrol]

Everyone Ready for Mr Monday Night?

As established by Jerry 'The King' Lawler..

 

[DarkSentinel]

You know what, that Daniel Bryan "Yes!" moment gives me goosebumps. Cannot wait for SummerSlam.