The Wrestling Thread Invented Canada! - - - Part 48

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nell you serious lol

cena cut deeper on the rock

rock said nothing that he or someone else has'nt said 1000 times lol it falls on deaf ears when you repeat the same digs at cena over and over again

And what exactly did Cena say that he hasn't been saying for a year straight now?

"Hustle, Loyalty, Respect", "Dwayne", and focused on "Kung Pao chicken" and turned it into yet another "I'm here every week" response.

"Keep trending" and the promo notes lines were nice, but that was it.

Cena didn't cut anything.

Meanwhile, underneath the surface of "kung pao *****", "fruity pebbles", and "lady parts", Rock owned Cena by 1.) proving that even as a part timer, the audience loves Rock more than they will ever love Cena, and 2.) speaking the mind of the audience by talking about how stale Cena's character is, and how he hasn't done anything innovative in years.
 
Here's a question....could the CROWD be a reason Rock started to ramble off the tracks?

Possibly. At least in the sense that maybe The Rock gets off on hearing the crowd chant **** he says and he got carried away.
 
As a Rock fan, even I can acknowledge Rock lost his way, especially once Cena mentioned the words on his wrist, although I would've been fine if Rock acknowledged that himself seeing as how he supposedly only has just a few words on his wrist. Indeed, it's good entertainment, but I would love to see a RAW where we get the best out of both guys, but maybe that'll happen the RAW before WrestleMania.

The interesting thing is everyone is focusing on Cena's comment about the notes and linking it to how Rock lost his way at the end, however I think it might have been the comment about The Rock not caring if WWE closed it's doors tomorrow that really stung Rock. I don't believe that is true at all and I can imagine Rock being knocked out of his stride with a comment like that, below the belt.

Yah, the ending of Rock really showed emotion coming out of him and I think it should be touched upon, at least next week and that could be a trigger to make Dwayne becoming more serious.

I would like Rock to stop it with the trending word crap and Cena stop making it seem like Dwayne and Rock are two separate entities.

They could certainly use it as a jump off point for Rock next time out, they probably wont mention him stuttering and messing up lines, but they just need to point to the emotion in Rock's eyes and the way the jabs changed his demeanour.

Yes, the trending and chant along crap needs to be 86'd.
 
And what exactly did Cena say that he hasn't been saying for a year straight now?

"Hustle, Loyalty, Respect", "Dwayne", and focused on "Kung Pao chicken" and turned it into yet another "I'm here every week" response.

"Keep trending" and the promo notes lines were nice, but that was it.

Cena didn't cut anything.

He did say that he thought Dwayne was a egotistical self centered b*tch. Well that, along with the whole notes on his hand comment.

And what did the Rock say that was so new that entitles him the rank of having owned Cena? The rock's inability to respond back to Cena and keep his cool definitely showed on who got the better half tonight.
 
Cena doing his little thing and then leaving really bothered me. It felt a little random, but more importantly it just isn't something The Rock would let someone do. People said things to him and he always responded immediately and to that person's face. I still think Cena's being protected here, because there's no way it should go like that. He should have at least been at the top of the stage while Rock gave in his final words. It was just weird.
 
And what exactly did Cena say that he hasn't been saying for a year straight now?

"Hustle, Loyalty, Respect", "Dwayne", and focused on "Kung Pao chicken" and turned it into yet another "I'm here every week" response.

"Keep trending" and the promo notes lines were nice, but that was it.

Cena didn't cut anything.

Meanwhile, underneath the surface of "kung pao *****", "fruity pebbles", and "lady parts", Rock owned Cena by 1.) proving that even as a part timer, the audience loves Rock more than they will ever love Cena, and 2.) speaking the mind of the audience by talking about how stale Cena's character is, and how he hasn't done anything innovative in years.

So if it didn't cut then why was he so flustered and flubbed his lines?

The 2 points are erroneous, nostalgia creates point 1, just look at Hogan in 2002, he stood for close to ten minutes just getting cheered in several arenas, absence makes the heart grow fonder.

Point 2 arrogantly suggests your and Rock speak for the majority, revenue says you are both wrong.
 
The interesting thing is everyone is focusing on Cena's comment about the notes and linking it to how Rock lost his way at the end, however I think it might have been the comment about The Rock not caring if WWE closed it's doors tomorrow that really stung Rock. I don't believe that is true at all and I can imagine Rock being knocked out of his stride with a comment like that, below the belt.




Yes, the trending and chant along crap needs to be 86'd.


I don't know , Rock did change his demeanor a lot after the wrist comment but it could of been the combination of both things.


Also I agree , this twitter thing is obnoxious but the crowd eats it up so we'll probably be stuck with it .
 
Cena doing his little thing and then leaving really bothered me. It felt a little random, but more importantly it just isn't something The Rock would let someone do. People said things to him and he always responded immediately and to that person's face. I still think Cena's being protected here, because there's no way it should go like that. He should have at least been at the top of the stage while Rock gave in his final words. It was just weird.

Well like others said, I think Cena also delivered a line here and there that was more shoot than worked in their exchange.

That and the Rock really wasted a lot of the air time with his twitter comments and Kung Pao nonsense that I'd assume like others have that Cena was sent out there in order to bring the focus back to their match.
 
Cena doing his little thing and then leaving really bothered me. It felt a little random, but more importantly it just isn't something The Rock would let someone do. People said things to him and he always responded immediately and to that person's face. I still think Cena's being protected here, because there's no way it should go like that. He should have at least been at the top of the stage while Rock gave in his final words. It was just weird.

Did you see how long the overrun was? I've already suggested Cena was sent out there to give Rock the opening to wrap it up as he was just going on and on about things he could get trending by the time Cena arrived.
 
Possibly. At least in the sense that maybe The Rock gets off on hearing the crowd chant **** he says and he got carried away.

See, I'm re-watching the segment once more and I feel that Rock gets too carried away with the crowd and plays with the crowd in saying those chants. I feel that Rock needs to become more serious because with the crowd not being so "cooperative" with Cena, it helps John in being more serious at times like these. Rock takes it too lightly when the crowds just does whatever he insists, while he needs to keep staying focus.

The interesting thing is everyone is focusing on Cena's comment about the notes and linking it to how Rock lost his way at the end, however I think it might have been the comment about The Rock not caring if WWE closed it's doors tomorrow that really stung Rock. I don't believe that is true at all and I can imagine Rock being knocked out of his stride with a comment like that, below the belt.

I always think of the writing on his wrists, but you do make a point that the comment of him not caring if the WWE went out of business probably hurt worse simply because it adds another level of when Cena is saying Rock's never here and around. I doubt it's true because I believe Dwayne Johnson is serious about the WWE nowadays and wanting to help the company that "created" him, but still.

They could certainly use it as a jump off point for Rock next time out, they probably wont mention him stuttering and messing up lines, but they just need to point to the emotion in Rock's eyes and the way the jabs changed his demeanour.

If they play this up right, Rock should start the show next week.
 
I don't know , Rock did change his demeanor a lot after the wrist comment but it could of been the combination of both things.


Also I agree , this twitter thing is obnoxious but the crowd eats it up so we'll probably be stuck with it .

The two hits were almost back to back, I think you might be right that the combination of both took him off guard.

Probably but hopefully WWE will see how far that promo strayed from actually being about Cena/Mania, and will tell him to rein it in, in fact I hope there's no more solo promos from either guy.
 
I'm starting to wonder if the reason why they had established Rock vs Cena a year in advanced was because of the fact that they knew that they would not be able to get in the necessary amount of time needed from the Rock in order to build up to a match of this caliber if they had mentioned it like at the start of the year like how some WM are planned out.
 
FINALLLLLY John Cena impressed me with something he said.... about time

great promo as usual from the rock had me it stiches with the camo pants bit

punk jericho was great too and I think I need to watch punk bryan when I get home from work
 
not only the wrist promo dig but the one that i think cut even deeper was

"If This Company went Under tomorrow You Would'nt Give It A Second Look"

his whole face tensed up
 
The Rock really needs to go on about how a lot of people would rather see a guy who left for 7 years than than the guy here every week. "What does that say about you, John? What does that say about you when you make all these personal appearances and bend over backwards, and most of these people will always love me more. I'll tell you what that says about you, John. You can't touch me...and it eats away at you."
 
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Did you see how long the overrun was? I've already suggested Cena was sent out there to give Rock the opening to wrap it up as he was just going on and on about things he could get trending by the time Cena arrived.


I know Rock talked for at least ten before Cena comes out and then it's another five to six minutes. I think 15.


Probably but hopefully WWE will see how far that promo strayed from actually being about Cena/Mania, and will tell him to rein it in, in fact I hope there's no more solo promos from either guy.


I don't know if this promo was designed or not but it certainly got people talking. Any solo promos at this point would be a complete waste. I'm hoping we get a Piper Pit( interesting he was mentioned ) or a JR sit down interview. They could even do a Cutting Edge ( since he's going into the Hall of Fame , it would be appropriate) .
 
The Rock really needs to go on about how a lot of people would rather see a guy who left for 7 years than than the guy here every week. "What does that say about you, John? What does that say about you when you make all these personal appearances and bend over backwards, and most these people will always love me more. I'll tell you what that says about you, John. You can't touch me...and it eats away at you."

I would love to see that, because in the end that's what matters the most right? Entertaining the fans, which you aren't doing, but I am, and you can't stand it!
 
The problem with this feud, aside from the Rock's limited availability, is that we ALL know that Cena is much more better than what he's been presented at many times in recent memory and that it's most likely not his fault for his character being portrayed the way it is due to the child demographics and PG rating that he's restricted in.

Honestly, I'd like to see the Rock respond to John if he was forced to be as limited in what he could do as a on screen character and be booked the way that Cena has.
 
thats a great point ant

also rock could bring up

"you call me mr. Hollywood but look what i have here cena yup the marine dvd i may be a movie star but you are a failed movie star. With your films going straight to DVD ,anything you do i do better you tried to go to hollywood but they did'nt want you just like these fans dont want you john"
 
The problem is that Cena has already called himself out on all those things

" there's not going to be a reunion 2"

" I'll never have the millions"

" my audience is kids and I'm damn proud"
 
The irony in all of this is that most of the criticism that the rock has thrown towards Cena in regards to the popularity and success of his character when compared to his own (the Rock's) is that Cena, as far as I know, was still placed in a restrictive environment and didn't have as free reigns as the Rock had. Cena has only starred mainly in films produced by the WWE itself, and none of their films are good period. If Cena was given the chance to branch out like the Rock has, you never know on what he could have done in Hollywood.

The same can be said for how Bland and One dimensional Cena's character has been forced to be at times due to creative management.
 
The problem is that Cena has already called himself out on all those things

" there's not going to be a reunion 2"

" I'll never have the millions"

" my audience is kids and I'm damn proud"
this is also true

this is why rock has it cut out for him cena is very self deprecating
 
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