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[Kaleb]

spoilers regarding Batista on smackdown

Spoiler

Batista started out the show with mixed boos and cheers. Batista started off by saying "I love this business and company." He said he did not come back to be liked. A huge C.M. Punk chant broke out. He said you don't have to support him, but you gotta deal with it. He said it's a fact he can destroy anyone they put in front of him. A small Daniel Bryan chant started and died quickly.

Batista asked what the hell happened to this business, the real men, the attitude. A huge Yes! chant broke out. He said if the fans honestly think their heroes are as good as him they need to get out of their fantasy world and to get out of his. He said he would destroy each of our heroes on his way to WrestleMania where he will become the WWE World Heavyweight Champion.

Out came Dolph Ziggler. A "Let's Go Ziggler" chant broke out. Ziggler started out by saying, "You don't tell these people who to cheer for" and that they cheer for who they want. He said Batista is a dinosaur and sooner or later they become extinct. Ziggler said he wants a match with Batista tonight. Batista said he wanted it he would get it. Ziggler dropkicked him and walked away...

(source: PWInsider.com)

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Oh Dave....

 

[Wheels]

Ironically, he's getting more heat than even Cena, lol.

When Batista wins the Undisputed Championship, have him cut a scathing promo the following night while wearing sunglasses, condemning the fans for turning their back on him and that from here on out, he truly does walk alone.

*cue the spotlight

All will be good again.

Except for Batista being champion and WWE not pulling the trigger on Bryan, but hey it's cool. I guarantee Batista vs Orton will be top 5 in the worst WrestleMania main events of all time list.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Except, for Batista being champion and WWE not pulling the trigger on Bryan, but hey it's cool. I guarantee Batista vs Orton will be top 5 in the worst WrestleMania main events of all time list.

It would, nay, it WILL make Sid/Taker look like Austin/Rock II.

 

[Hunter Rider]

It's funny but I think we all owe Triple H an apology, THIS is the reason Bryan is not going to get his moment at WrestleMania.

 

[The Sage]

spoilers regarding Batista on smackdown

Spoiler

Of course he'd get booked in a match with Dolph. Gotta give Batista a good match. At least it sounds like they're going with the full heel turn.

 

[TX85]

Did the Rock ruin his own legacy with his last run?,During Hogan's Raw promo he mentioned people we can watch on the network like Shawn Michaels and Stone Cold in which their names got big pops But when Hogan mentioned the Rock his name barely got a reaction and it was boos.

Rock was getting huge pops in his return..Until he beat Punk for the title and barely showed up on Raw until WM,He got mixed reactions then on the next night he got lots of"Bull Sh**"chants and noose when he said he was leaving due to injury.


Are marks AND casuals completely over him as a wrestler?

 

[Wheels]

Spoiler

How in the blue hell is WWE going to pull of heel vs heel in the main event of WrestleMania? It's not even a question that Batista is a heel now.

 

[The Sage]

- With hometown hero CM Punk likely not appearing, WWE is pulling out all the stops for next Monday’s RAW from Chicago. It was announced at tonight’s WWE SmackDown tapings in Milwaukee that The Shield and The Wyatt Family will go at it. Also, The Undertaker and Brock Lesnar will be there. Here’s the line-up for RAW in Chicago this coming Monday:

* Brock Lesnar confronts The Undertaker

* The Shield vs. The Wyatt Family

* Actor Aaron Paul as the guest host

WWE’s website is not currently advertising The Undertaker for RAW but they are advertising Brock Lesnar.

http://dailywrestlingnews.com/spoiler-huge-angle-chamber-rematch-set-raw-chicago/

Well look at this, they're putting Wyatts vs Shield on free tv.

Wait, it's all free now.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Holy **** isn't PG!!!!

Did the Rock ruin his own legacy with his last run?,During Hogan's Raw promo he mentioned people we can watch on the network like Shawn Michaels and Stone Cold in which their names got big pops But when Hogan mentioned the Rock his name barely got a reaction and it was boos.

Rock was getting huge pops in his return..Until he beat Punk for the title and barely showed up on Raw until WM,He got mixed reactions then on the next night he got lots of"Bull Sh**"chants and noose when he said he was leaving due to injury.


Are marks AND casuals completely over him as a wrestler?

Wrestler no


Champion yes

 

[Hunter Rider]

Did the Rock ruin his own legacy with his last run?,During Hogan's Raw promo he mentioned people we can watch on the network like Shawn Michaels and Stone Cold in which their names got big pops But when Hogan mentioned the Rock his name barely got a reaction and it was boos.

Rock was getting huge pops in his return..Until he beat Punk for the title and barely showed up on Raw until WM,He got mixed reactions then on the next night he got lots of"Bull Sh**"chants and noose when he said he was leaving due to injury.


Are marks AND casuals completely over him as a wrestler?

I think the fans in the arenas have come to appreciate the guys busting their ass weekly for them, and I think they are vocally agreeing with the wrestlers on the roster who feel it's unfair that they get shoved aside when a big name from the past comes in once a year for mega money and hardly does any work.

People can blather on about buyrates and all that but if you want your current roster who work the other 11 PPV's a year to be seen as stars in the eyes of fans you have to present them as such, the last 3 Mania's have sent the complete opposite message out.

Would the Mania buyrates have took a hit? Quite possibly, but long term you establish your future.

 

[The Sage]

Batista should've been training in DDP Yoga instead of Gracie Jujitsu. Not saying Gracie isn't good, I'm sure it's great. But Jericho came back in good cardiovascular condition after his last absence.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Spoiler

How in the blue hell is WWE going to pull of heel vs heel in the main event of WrestleMania? It's not even a question that Batista is a heel now.

No matter which scenario they go with, good luck to WWE.

 

[Hunter Rider]

- With hometown hero CM Punk likely not appearing, WWE is pulling out all the stops for next Monday’s RAW from Chicago. It was announced at tonight’s WWE SmackDown tapings in Milwaukee that The Shield and The Wyatt Family will go at it. Also, The Undertaker and Brock Lesnar will be there. Here’s the line-up for RAW in Chicago this coming Monday:

* Brock Lesnar confronts The Undertaker

* The Shield vs. The Wyatt Family

* Actor Aaron Paul as the guest host

WWE’s website is not currently advertising The Undertaker for RAW but they are advertising Brock Lesnar.

http://dailywrestlingnews.com/spoiler-huge-angle-chamber-rematch-set-raw-chicago/

Well look at this, they're putting Wyatts vs Shield on free tv.

Wait, it's all free now.

I honestly think the news sites have just made this up, these two things will have been planned from the get go, WWE know it wont stop the Chicago crowd chanting Punk's name through lots of other segments especially during whatever Triple H, Orton and Batista are doing.

 

[TX85]

Shield vs Wyatt's II next week!?,So Cena vs Bray at Mania is still on!?,Guessing Shield split after the match and they have a 3 way

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I honestly think the news sites have just made this up, these two things will have been planned from the get go, WWE know it wont stop the Chicago crowd chanting Punk's name through lots of other segments especially during whatever Triple H, Orton and Batista are doing.

Yup. This was planned for a while it seems like.

 

[Kaleb]

Smackdown Spoilers

Spoiler

Smackdown opened with a memorial for Nelson Frazier, Jr. (a/k/a Mabel, Viscera, Big Daddy V)... The Uso's and Daniel Bryan vs. The New Age Outlaws and Kane was hyped, plus an A.J. Lee vs. Cameron rematch.

Batista started out the show with mixed boos and cheers. Batista started off by saying "I love this business and company." He said he did not come back to be liked. A huge C.M. Punk chant broke out. He said you don't have to support him, but you gotta deal with it. He said it's a fact he can destroy anyone they put in front of him. A small Daniel Bryan chant started and died quickly.

Batista asked what the hell happened to this business, the real men, the attitude. A huge Yes! chant broke out. He said if the fans honestly think their heroes are as good as him they need to get out of their fantasy world and to get out of his. He said he would destroy each of our heroes on his way to WrestleMania where he will become the WWE World Heavyweight Champion.

Out came Dolph Ziggler. A "Let's Go Ziggler" chant broke out. Ziggler started out by saying, "You don't tell these people who to cheer for" and that they cheer for who they want. He said Batista is a dinosaur and sooner or later they become extinct. Ziggler said he wants a match with Batista tonight. Batista said he wanted it he would get it. Ziggler dropkicked him and walked away...

1. The Real Americans beat Big E and Mark Henry. Swagger and E started the match. Cesaro supplexed E when Cesaro was on the top rope and E was outside of the ropes. Cesaro went for the pin and Swagger came in. Cesaro was angry. Henry went for the World's Strongest Slam on Swagger, but Cesaro kicked Henry. Swagger went for the Ankle Lock on Henry, and Cesaro tagged himself in. Cesaro hits The Neutralizer on Henry (drawing gasps from the crowd) for the win...

Vickie Guerrero and Alberto Del Rio were shown talking backstage. Del Rio said he's going to take the night off. In came Sheamus, who said he loves a good fight. Hs said how about he and Del Rio fight, setting up the next match...

2. Sheamus beat Alberto Del Rio by DQ. Sheamus has black athletic tape on his ribs. It was basically the same match between the two. Out came Christian in a suit. He went to the announcers' Table. It was a back and forth match but nothing special. Sheamus had Del Rio in a half crab then Christian came in and hit Sheamus for the DQ. Sheamus threw Christian out of the ring, then Brogue kicked Del Rio, and got Killswitched by Christian...

The Shield argued backstage. Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose yelled at each other like children. Enter Seth Rollins for the save. He said let's show Bray Wyatt when you provoke the hounds you get the teeth...

3. Batista beat Dolph Ziggler. Dolph with fast offense to start. Batista got in the face of a fan wearing the clown wig. A boring chant started, then a C.M. Punk chant (which I started, ha). This is a slow match. There were a couple spine busters in a row from Batista, who was generating serious heat by taunting the WWE Universe. Batista performed the Batista Bomb for the win.

Bray Wyatt and the family come out. Wyatt preached about how we buy fancy clothing to impress women. He said women don't even realize your wearing the mask that society tells you to wear. Everything is a bag of lies. Bray is so so amazing live. Bray said he says and does everything the society is afraid to do. He said he will slay this mighty dragon (in reference to John Cena).

Out came The Shield. There was a stare down in the ring. Out came Triple H, who said this is enough and has too much money and time involved in them. This Monday night on Raw, the Wyatt's will take on The shield. He said that for the time being, The Shield should stand down.

Reigns and The Shield stepped into the ring and only Bray stepped in. Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins jumped onto Luke Harper and Erick Rowan, then quickly got back into the ring. Bray left and Seth was pumped. Bray backed the family up

4. AJ Lee beat Cameron to retain the Divas Championship. AJ started fast on offense. Cameron went on the offensive and was destroying AJ. Tamina moved AJ out of the corner and Cameron missed her and rammed into the corner. Tamina got thrown out, but AJ won with the Black Widow...

A recap of the undertaker and Brock Lesnar confrontation from Raw was shown, then the pre-show commentary team spoke about Taker's Streak

5. Daniel Bryan and The Uso Brothers beat Kane and The New Age Outlaws. There were huge Yes! chants. Out came corporate Kane. The Outlaws didn't do their whole saying. The Uso's and Bryan work very well together. Kane looks so stupid in a wife beater and slacks and dress shoes. A "you sold out" chant began. Kane and the Outlaws huddled outside and talked strategy. I'm so impressed with the Uso's. I can see gold on them soon. A straight forward match early on. Nothing special. Bryan tagged in and sent a knee to Kane on the ropes. Kane got back into the match and stopped the Bryan comeback. The Uso's double kicked Kane and sent him out of the ring. Bryan hit the running knee on Billy Gunn for the win.

 

[Wheels]

No matter which scenario they go with, good luck to WWE.

It's insane. They must have another plan because there isn't a chance it can work at all. Have Austin return and stun both of them a la WrestleMania 20 lol.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Spoiler

Batista asked what the hell happened to this business, the real men, the attitude. He said if the fans honestly think their heroes are as good as him they need to get out of their fantasy world and to get out of his. He said he would destroy each of our heroes.

Fixed to what he would say about the actors playing the Avengers.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Smackdown Spoilers

Spoiler

Smackdown opened with a memorial for Nelson Frazier, Jr. (a/k/a Mabel, Viscera, Big Daddy V)... The Uso's and Daniel Bryan vs. The New Age Outlaws and Kane was hyped, plus an A.J. Lee vs. Cameron rematch.

Batista started out the show with mixed boos and cheers. Batista started off by saying "I love this business and company." He said he did not come back to be liked. A huge C.M. Punk chant broke out. He said you don't have to support him, but you gotta deal with it. He said it's a fact he can destroy anyone they put in front of him. A small Daniel Bryan chant started and died quickly.

Batista asked what the hell happened to this business, the real men, the attitude. A huge Yes! chant broke out. He said if the fans honestly think their heroes are as good as him they need to get out of their fantasy world and to get out of his. He said he would destroy each of our heroes on his way to WrestleMania where he will become the WWE World Heavyweight Champion.

Out came Dolph Ziggler. A "Let's Go Ziggler" chant broke out. Ziggler started out by saying, "You don't tell these people who to cheer for" and that they cheer for who they want. He said Batista is a dinosaur and sooner or later they become extinct. Ziggler said he wants a match with Batista tonight. Batista said he wanted it he would get it. Ziggler dropkicked him and walked away...

1. The Real Americans beat Big E and Mark Henry. Swagger and E started the match. Cesaro supplexed E when Cesaro was on the top rope and E was outside of the ropes. Cesaro went for the pin and Swagger came in. Cesaro was angry. Henry went for the World's Strongest Slam on Swagger, but Cesaro kicked Henry. Swagger went for the Ankle Lock on Henry, and Cesaro tagged himself in. Cesaro hits The Neutralizer on Henry (drawing gasps from the crowd) for the win...

Vickie Guerrero and Alberto Del Rio were shown talking backstage. Del Rio said he's going to take the night off. In came Sheamus, who said he loves a good fight. Hs said how about he and Del Rio fight, setting up the next match...

2. Sheamus beat Alberto Del Rio by DQ. Sheamus has black athletic tape on his ribs. It was basically the same match between the two. Out came Christian in a suit. He went to the announcers' Table. It was a back and forth match but nothing special. Sheamus had Del Rio in a half crab then Christian came in and hit Sheamus for the DQ. Sheamus threw Christian out of the ring, then Brogue kicked Del Rio, and got Killswitched by Christian...

The Shield argued backstage. Roman Reigns and Dean Ambrose yelled at each other like children. Enter Seth Rollins for the save. He said let's show Bray Wyatt when you provoke the hounds you get the teeth...

3. Batista beat Dolph Ziggler. Dolph with fast offense to start. Batista got in the face of a fan wearing the clown wig. A boring chant started, then a C.M. Punk chant (which I started, ha). This is a slow match. There were a couple spine busters in a row from Batista, who was generating serious heat by taunting the WWE Universe. Batista performed the Batista Bomb for the win.

Bray Wyatt and the family come out. Wyatt preached about how we buy fancy clothing to impress women. He said women don't even realize your wearing the mask that society tells you to wear. Everything is a bag of lies. Bray is so so amazing live. Bray said he says and does everything the society is afraid to do. He said he will slay this mighty dragon (in reference to John Cena).

Out came The Shield. There was a stare down in the ring. Out came Triple H, who said this is enough and has too much money and time involved in them. This Monday night on Raw, the Wyatt's will take on The shield. He said that for the time being, The Shield should stand down.

Reigns and The Shield stepped into the ring and only Bray stepped in. Dean Ambrose and Seth Rollins jumped onto Luke Harper and Erick Rowan, then quickly got back into the ring. Bray left and Seth was pumped. Bray backed the family up

4. AJ Lee beat Cameron to retain the Divas Championship. AJ started fast on offense. Cameron went on the offensive and was destroying AJ. Tamina moved AJ out of the corner and Cameron missed her and rammed into the corner. Tamina got thrown out, but AJ won with the Black Widow...

A recap of the undertaker and Brock Lesnar confrontation from Raw was shown, then the pre-show commentary team spoke about Taker's Streak

5. Daniel Bryan and The Uso Brothers beat Kane and The New Age Outlaws. There were huge Yes! chants. Out came corporate Kane. The Outlaws didn't do their whole saying. The Uso's and Bryan work very well together. Kane looks so stupid in a wife beater and slacks and dress shoes. A "you sold out" chant began. Kane and the Outlaws huddled outside and talked strategy. I'm so impressed with the Uso's. I can see gold on them soon. A straight forward match early on. Nothing special. Bryan tagged in and sent a knee to Kane on the ropes. Kane got back into the match and stopped the Bryan comeback. The Uso's double kicked Kane and sent him out of the ring. Bryan hit the running knee on Billy Gunn for the win.

You know Batista SHOULD not be wrestling EVER AGAIN EVER when he [BLACKOUT]slows down Dolph Ziggler.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[TheNextNolan22]

It's insane. They must have another plan because there isn't a chance it can work at all. Have Austin return and stun both of them a la WrestleMania 20 lol.

That would be much better than what we're actually getting LOL.

 

[cabel]

Watching This is NXT. Can't wait for Sami Zayn to be brought up so Cesaro can throw him around some more.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Expecting to see Bo Dallas retain the NXT Championship.

 

[bullets]

Orton could turn face but even that wouldn't fix things.

 

[TX85]

I never had Hulu and was hard to find newer NXT episodes or even all full matches on YouTube,So I'm excited I get to experience it better,Can't wait for the live special on Thursday