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[Project862006]

^thats nothing new hell look at today's american actors to the american actors from like 70's

we got baby faced actors like gosling,tatum,JGL,gyllenhaal,shia,chris pine,armie hammer,ryan reynolds,etc.

then compare them to the actors of the 1960-1970's like Chris Reeve,Clint Eastwood,Marlon Brando,Sean Connery,Steve McQueen,Gregory Peck,Charlton Heston,Kirk Douglas they in comparison to alot of the boyish actors today they had a more mature girtty look to them

 

[Wheels]

FCW 7/15/12 featuring Ambrose vs Regal II:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcDlIZBbhUM&feature=g-all-u

 

[Slushy]

would've preferred Del Rio winning by DQ and Rhodes winning SD MITB, but other than that, I'm pleased with tonight's show overall.
　

Damn, please please WB do not choose Rock for this role. I cannot stand the guy's acting

It's better than The Rock playing Shazam.

 

[Pink Ranger]

That PW article sounds like a lot of hypocritical IWC know-it-all-ism.

Today he complains that the WWE roster is too young: last year he'd be complaining that the young talents keep getting buried.

Today he complains that they're not enough WWE wrestlers who genuinely look like they could beat you up: probably last week he'd be one of the ones complaining about the WWE' big man preference.

Honestly, if the IWC critics ran the WWE, it would be just as bad, if not worse, than it is now.

 

[Superark]

That PW article sounds like a lot of hypocritical IWC know-it-all-ism.

Today he complains that the WWE roster is too young: last year he'd be complaining that the young talents keep getting buried.

Today he complains that they're not enough WWE wrestlers who genuinely look like they could beat you up: probably last week he'd be one of the ones complaining about the WWE' big man preference.

Honestly, if the IWC critics ran the WWE, it would be just as bad, if not worse, than it is now.

It's not that black and white as you are making it seem.

As someone who has followed Mike Johnson for over 10 years I can tell you he is the last person who complains just to complain, nor is he hypocritical. Often times he is probably too forgiving of the wrestling product.

He is writing about something that is quite valid about today's wrestling and is something I've heard from casual fans who use to watch wrestling and no longer do.

I've watched wrestling for over 20 years now and grizzled men who look like badasses is sorely missing from today's wrestling. I think part of the reason is because WWE has become such a marketing machine that they focus on certain clean looks. Another reason is because since WWE bought WCW and the death of the territories and many other independent scenes, along with Japan, the wrestlers are not being brought up the tough way and paying their dues. Many of these guys are put on the stage of WWE very young and do not have the grittiness that comes from working the road for several years.

And another thing, this is not a complaint that is limited to some "IWC" writer. I've heard this same complaint come guys like Kevin Nash, Hacksaw, etc. I've complained about it here on the Hype more than once.

There is a lot of truth in Johnson's article and nowhere is he saying the WWE shouldn't be pushing the young talent they have. He is merely pointing out an aspect that WWE is missing in their product and roster.

 

[TX85]

The Rock is perfect to play someone like Lobo,Anyway..I vote for the next thread title to either be"The Wrestling Thread..Aw Hell Nah"OR"The Wrestling Thread has been Bambozzeled"

Punk comments on not being in the ME..
"Guys.EVERYBODY is mad that I wasn't in the main event. Especially those who have to follow me. Because they can't.Nobody follows the killer."

"Deal with it. I'll work first. I'll work hurt. I'll (out) work anybody. Best. In. The. World."

 

[Metallo]

Damn, please please WB do not choose Rock for this role. I cannot stand the guy's acting

credit www.PWINsider.com

-Rock confirmed via his twitter that he is indeed in the running to play DC Comics' Lobo

-former WWE Diva Sunny has entered into rehab

The Rock is wrong for it...especially if WB is going for a family friendly film like they claim. The only thing The Rock has in common with Lobo is he's big.

Andrew Bryniarski was great in the independently made Paramilitary Special so its a shame he'd never get the role again because he's not a big star.

If they are going for a wrestler Kevin Nash would be a better Lobo. He's got the looks, the size, the attitude, the charisma, the sense of humor, etc. Even Hogan (in his prime anyway) has the looks and the voice for it more than the Rock...which is funny since Brad Garrett (who voiced Hogan on the Rock'n'Wrestling cartoon) voiced Lobo on Superman TAS!

If Rock wants to be a DC character he should be pushing for Black Adam like he was before. He'd be good for that. I was afraid this would be something even worse...like The Rock as Sgt. Rock. Not quite as dumb as when Joel Silver was pushing Schwarzenegger as Sgt. Rock but it would still be lame.

That PW article sounds like a lot of hypocritical IWC know-it-all-ism.

Today he complains that the WWE roster is too young: last year he'd be complaining that the young talents keep getting buried.

Today he complains that they're not enough WWE wrestlers who genuinely look like they could beat you up: probably last week he'd be one of the ones complaining about the WWE' big man preference.

Honestly, if the IWC critics ran the WWE, it would be just as bad, if not worse, than it is now.

He has a point. Plus those guys have some experience in the business so they aren't exactly the IWC. Its not so much just youth but look and diversity. So many of the guys now look like babyfaced GQ cover models.

Its the growing influence of Stephanie, Ace, and Kevin Dunn. All three have pushed for more aesthetically attractive talent signings male AND female. Even when Ace was working behind the scenes in WCW we saw it.

 

[TX85]

Lobo is going to be a family friendly film?..WTF!?!?!?

 

[Wheels]

Brad Garrett has played Hulk Hogan, Lobo, Herman Munster, and Robert Barone I swear that man is a legend.

 

[Metallo]

I didn't watch much wrestling back in the early 90's, but was Hogan's booking and dominance ever as bad and ridiculous as Cena's is?

By the early 90's Hogan was winding down but at his peak he dominated the WWf title more than Cena EVER will.

Cena has to win the title back at some point, because he's the top guy. I'm just glad they kept away from him this long.

The only problem I have with it is Cena was never realy out of the spotlight even without the belt. Otherwise its no different than any top guy. Some people won't be happy until Cena never holds the belt again and thats just being unrealistic and unreasonable.

Cena doesn't need to win the ****ing Belt I am so sick of this

He was gonna get it back at some point. Some people have unrealistic expectations about how WWE has always worked. Its like saying Sammartino, Backlund, Hogan, or Austin didn't need to win the belt. Cenas the top guy and like all top guys he's eventually going to get the title back.

 

[Dr. Evil]

In today's overly sensitive and over litigious world, we won't ever see a major heel like what Mike Johnson says that the WWE should have. TMZ (a bunch of leeches they are) would be all over it in an instant.

 

[Johnny Drama]

I find the whole Kofi/Truth/AW/PTP angle kinda racist. Take all the black guys that Creative has nothing for and throw them in one angle, have them all spout as many sterotypical slang words they an muster and voila, WWE is appealing to the "urban crowd". Truth and Kofi don't even mesh well as a tag team. And PTP holding AW bak was absolutely stupid. He is just the manager, why is he putting himself over rather than his team? And for the love of god that talking over matches thing got old 2 sentences into it. Horrible.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Recent NXT:

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[Dr. Evil]

I find the whole Kofi/Truth/AW/PTP angle kinda racist. Take all the black guys that Creative has nothing for and throw them in one angle, have them all spout as many sterotypical slang words they an muster and voila, WWE is appealing to the "urban crowd". Truth and Kofi don't even mesh well as a tag team. And PTP holding AW bak was absolutely stupid. He is just the manager, why is he putting himself over rather than his team? And for the love of god that talking over matches thing got old 2 sentences into it. Horrible.

Plus, Darren Young is nothing more than the Black John Cena.

 

[bullets]

To move away from Cena winning...was anyone else surprised of how much of a face reaction Miz received?

Could we be getting an aMIZing face turn?

I was taken aback. I think if he gets the same response elsewhere they should capitalize on it.

I much rather see Bryan feud Jericho than go back to Sheamus.

Punk is in an interesting situation. He clearly is making more money and treated more as a star both on TV and backstage, but he still hasn't truly been given the ball and allowed to have the spotlight on the shows. He plays second fiddle to Cena, despite being champion. I cannot ever remember a WWE Champion only main eventing 1 PPV 7 months into the year.

Now WWE is doing what they always do and taking something that is getting over and ramming it down our throats in AJ. Don't get me wrong, I love her and she is awesome in her role, but the attention has been more and more on her rather than the WWE TITLE and Punk and Bryan.

It's the reason I hated the Punk vs. Bryan match tonight. The story was about her, not Punk and Bryan or the title. That bugs me to no end and it looks like it is not ending anytime soon.

AJ is great, but Punk and Bryan should not be taking a backseat to her.

I get this. Unfortunately both will go in different directions from here but I'd love to see them feud again in the future. Punk and Bryan could wrestle a five star classic without the AJ drama. I don't think she overshadowed them last night but she was just as much the focus. I think these three made it really entertaining so I'm not bothered by it. The only thing that stood out was not having them close the show. Also Bryan looked like a beast. I thought he had a good chance of winning last night.

 

[Metallo]

I find the whole Kofi/Truth/AW/PTP angle kinda racist. Take all the black guys that Creative has nothing for and throw them in one angle, have them all spout as many sterotypical slang words they an muster and voila, WWE is appealing to the "urban crowd". Truth and Kofi don't even mesh well as a tag team. And PTP holding AW back was absolutely stupid. He is just the manager, why is he putting himself over rather than his team? And for the love of god that talking over matches thing got old 2 sentences into it. Horrible.

Sounds like something they'd do in the attitude era but it stands out in a not so good way even more today. Cryme Tyme was pretty stereotypically offensive but Prime Time Players look like clowns. Jesters. Theres a word for that when they used to have black people act like that decades ago but I can't think of it. Michael Hayes is probably amusing himself with all this.

If anything Kofi used to stand out to me because he was one of the few black guys who didn't have an urban/thug/rap gimmick


Washington talking during matches like that is ridiculous.

 

[Van Petrol]

Probably Punk more than Bryan. If Cena vs Punk is next, I'm really interested in how the promos will go. Both like to shoot when they're serious and there's a lot of stuff they could mention.

I'm curious to where Bryan goes from here. I wish he could go back to feuding with Sheamus and win the world title. A feud with Jericho is more likely.

I reckon their starting/building up a Sheamus-Ziggler feud now though.

I don't really want to see Bryan go back after the WHC, personally. I'd much rather see him in the WWE title hunt/picture. The WHC has basically just become the IC title nowadays, probably lower when you consider being John Cena is the WWE Championship.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Hayes is from the South. Of course he would be amused by all of that.

 

[bullets]

By the early 90's Hogan was winding down but at his peak he dominated the WWf title more than Cena EVER will.

This is true. Cena seems more willing to job than most of the other people that have been in his position. The kids love him though and he's not going anywhere ( not even a vacation). I fully expected him to be back in the title scene with Punk at some point but they picked a strange way to go about it.

I find the whole Kofi/Truth/AW/PTP angle kinda racist. Take all the black guys that Creative has nothing for and throw them in one angle, have them all spout as many sterotypical slang words they an muster and voila, WWE is appealing to the "urban crowd". Truth and Kofi don't even mesh well as a tag team. And PTP holding AW bak was absolutely stupid. He is just the manager, why is he putting himself over rather than his team? And for the love of god that talking over matches thing got old 2 sentences into it. Horrible.

I just don't get the seabiscuit reference.

 

[Wheels]

Hayes is from the South. Of course he would be amused by all of that.

Yes because all southern people are racist, right?

 

[Metallo]

This is true. Cena seems more willing to job than most of the other people that have been in his position. The kids love him though and he's not going anywhere ( not even a vacation). I fully expected him to be back in the title scene with Punk at some point but they picked a strange way to go about it.






I just don't get the seabiscuit reference.

I don't think Cena needed to win MITB (its kind of unneeded for his type of character) but knowing him he will probably announce ahead of time whenever he uses it. Unless he cashes in on someone he really doesn't like. But even then I have hard time seeing Cena do that.

It would be funny if HE of all people was the first person to cash in and lose though.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Punk vs Bryan was awesome and the crowd was red hot for the whole match, it should closed the show despite what the troll posted in here earlier. I'd rank it in my top 5 for MOTY and it was certainly the most physical I've seen for either US company this year.

The two MITB matches were ok but nothing really exciting happened in either of them, they were pretty safe I guess you could say. I like how Ziggler won his and the Cena finish would have been ok if Show had been up another rung, he was too low and Cena couldn't catch him properly with the case.

The filler stuff was ok, I thought the Divas "Maximised their minutes" as JR likes to say, going for for putting their personalities into the match as opposed to doing spots.

Dolph having the SD case is like having the keys to a kingdom nobody wants, honestly this is the lowest ebb I can ever recall the WHC being at, the match last night between Sheamus and Del Rio was fundamentally solid but bland with a cookie cutter finish.

They really need to give Sheamus something to raise his value, he's nowhere close to over enough and you know you have a problem when your supposed 3rd top face is getting beaten down and the crowd are chanting "We want Ziggler" in the hopes of seeing him lose the title..

I hope Bob Barker finds you and karate chops your ass.

No one outside the US cares about that codger.

I didn't watch much wrestling back in the early 90's, but was Hogan's booking and dominance ever as bad and ridiculous as Cena's is?

It's hard to judge as there wasn't close to as many PPV's but even at his prime in 1990 Hogan went second last behind the Warriors title defense at Summerslam.

 

[Hunter Rider]

That PW article sounds like a lot of hypocritical IWC know-it-all-ism.

Today he complains that the WWE roster is too young: last year he'd be complaining that the young talents keep getting buried.

Today he complains that they're not enough WWE wrestlers who genuinely look like they could beat you up: probably last week he'd be one of the ones complaining about the WWE' big man preference.

Honestly, if the IWC critics ran the WWE, it would be just as bad, if not worse, than it is now.

I wasn't a fan of that article either, to me it lacked a bit of logic in key areas.

 

[Calavera]

the iwc reeks of idiocy. and it will never go away

i dont even want to go into it because i will end up pissing people off. but ive been a member of it for 13 years and the sheer stupidity that has come from it...

 

[Karelia]

Rock as Lobo is a pretty awesome pick. Was skeptical at first, but I think he can pull it off as long as the script is good.