The Wrestling Thread was, is, and always will be a Hunter Rider Guy! - - Part 181

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You know you're a wrestling fan when you hear the name Steve Austin and think of a foul mouthed redneck instead of Lee Majors in a track suit.
 
4 changes for Ziggler that can raise his presentation to that of a main eventer to naysayers and higher ups:

1. Remove the butt shaking or "swivel" etc out of his entrance.

For all we know, that aspect of his entrance gives Vince enough justification to write Ziggler off as a modern day Billy Gunn or Jeff Jarrett

2. Make the Superkick his primary finisher

He's got the look, working style, mannerisms of someone akin to Ric Flair, Curt Hennig and most importantly Shawn Michaels and honestly the Superkick is his best looking move besides his drop kick and FameAsser alongside the fact that it just works better as a primary than the Zig Zag does. Having this move would really help him become more "complete".

3. Add Ric Flair as a manager.

Flair sees money in Dolph Ziggler and has wanted to work with him for a while now, and though Ziggler is a solid talker, having Flair would be a great boost to his presentation. Nevermind the fact that they look similar to each other and they'd compliment each in the way that Heenan did Heenig years ago.

4. Add some of his old moves to his repertoire again

As I've said before, having a million moves isn't a must but if he adds even 5 or 6 of his older moves such as the Scoop powerslam, Single leg crab, Fireman's carry takedown, German suplex, Rolling neck snap, and the Northern lights suplex for instance, it would not only obliterate the belief by Ziggler's haters that all he knows how to do is bump but it would give him moves that could help him avoid ever getting concussed again or having his body mutilated because he'd be free to bump a little less. Which is not only a copout hypocritical excuse that Vince can fall back on when he wants To undercut him but a concern of producers and agents like Arn Anderson who do however see him having a future as a top guy.

Not to mention he doesn't even have to use all these moves just mix a few of them with his current signatures in a way that'll tell a good story and fit the duration of the match.
 
He needs new gear as well in my opinion. Maybe special entrance attire.
 
He needs new gear as well in my opinion. Maybe special entrance attire.

Flair can always give him one of these:

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Flair can always give him one of these:

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Yeah my thing is guys like Ambrose, Rollins, Tyler Breeze, and Reigns have a specific attire. I know Dolph is going for the Billy Gunn look because he's a fan, but I don't know if it's the best idea.
 
Yeah my thing is guys like Ambrose, Rollins, Tyler Breeze, and Reigns have a specific attire. I know Dolph is going for the Billy Gunn look because he's a fan, but I don't know if it's the best idea.

Yeah, that's why I think he can keep the trunks but wear the robe on his way to the ring because at this point if Ziggler changed his look too much, would the crowds be ready to embrace it?
 
Yeah, that's why I think he can keep the trunks but wear the robe on his way to the ring because at this point if Ziggler changed his look too much, would the crowds be ready to embrace it?

I'm not sure if fans would embrace it. I don't know I just wish he had something more to his presentation. We know Vince is all about aesthetics.
 
I'm not sure if fans would embrace it. I don't know I just wish he had something more to his presentation. We know Vince is all about aesthetics.

Yeah I think they'd be willing to accept the suggestions I posted above since they would be changes indeed that would help him along the way without changing too much. They'd probably even accept his adding the robe to his look if they did a segment where Flair "passed it down to him" to explain it.
 
You know you're a wrestling fan when you scream out "OOOOH YEAH" during a graduation.

You know you're a wrestling fan when you see a table and wonder what it would be like to put someone through it.

You know you're a wrestling fan when you see F5 on the keyboard and you think of Brock Lesnar's finisher.

You know you're a wrestling fan when you're dressed up in a suit, wearing shades and throw up 4 fingers like a Horseman.
 
You know you're a wrestling fan when you think of Hogan, Hall, and Nash any times someone talks about a New World Order
 
You know you're a wrestling fan when you hink of Jim Cornette when you see an old tennis racket in the case.
 
You know you're a wrestling fan when think of Hawk and Animal instead of Lex Luthor and Solomon Grundy when someone talks about the Legion of Doom
 
You know you're a wrestling fan when you go to a wedding and expect a run-in.

You know you're a wrestling fan when the light's go out in your home and you expect a gong sound.
 
You know you're a wrestling fan when you go to a wedding and expect a run-in.

You know you're a wrestling fan when the light's go out in your home and you expect a gong sound.
Haha yes!
 
I kid of want Ziggler to lead his own stable of him, Ryder, and Rose with Emma. I think they'd make for a good crew. Ryder will probably be unmasked as the bunny sooner or later, and could be a tag team with Rose. Emma would just fit with that crew IMO
 
It also helps that Emma is another Lance Storm trainee like Ziggler too
 
You know you're a wrestling fan when you're still angry at Good Humor for not bringing back WWE Ice Cream Bars.

You know you're a wrestling fan when you've actually seen Ready to Rumble.

You know you're a wrestling fan when you use the terms "Heel" "Mark" and "Botch" in everyday life.

You know you're a wrestling fan when you see a 9. 99 price tag and think of WWE Network.

You know you're a wrestling fan when you drink vintage wine and think of Micheal Cole.
 
You know you're a wrestling fan when you hear the word herpes and think of Tammy Sytch.
 
I do however wonder how some can pretend Dolph Ziggler isnt a good ring worker when he's had a plethora of good matches in just this year alone...even when he was still in dark match hell:

Dolph Ziggler vs Wade Barrett for the IC title:

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Dolph Ziggler vs Seth Rollins on Smackdown:

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Dolph Ziggler vs Miz on Raw for an IC title shot:

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Then there was his Street Fight with Batista on Smackdown back in May, his WWE Main Event match with Rollins and his matches with Alberto Del Rio. Those matches had good storytelling, back and forth, and was NOT just a lot of bumping.
 
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To condense it, he'll now be on Team Blue with the rest of us because he's not quite fond of the new requirements for Team Red.
 
To condense it, he'll now be on Team Blue with the rest of us because he's not quite fond of the new requirements for Team Red.


This is a Wrestling Thread, not a Double Dare thread! Speaking of which,:

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