Theory about how it'll all fit together (timelines, plotholes, and previous movies)

So then was Wolverine in the bar in FC future Wolvie or past-wolvie?

 

If they're doing the whole "psychic mind swap" method of time travel...consider: it's not farfetched that the characters we think are Scott and Ororo in FIRST CLASS could have been Xavier seeing them, but seeing them through time via some sort of loop/kink in the astral/psychic plane.

My guess/hope:

Some event in DAYS OF FUTURE PAST in the 70's, an assassination/ongoing acts of terrorism, make things worse than they would otherwise have been had (Xavier) survived, bringing the mutants into the public consciousness as a perceived threat much earlier than the timeline of the original films, which causes humanity to persecute mutants far earlier and more intensely than what we saw in previous films.

This change in interactions between humans and mutants, and the subsequent earlier registration act and related development of the Sentinel program makes William Stryker's "secret" war on the mutants unneccessary, as well as the approach of finding a cure a whole lot less likely, since mutants are widely persecuted and feared on a much more intense level.

As such, the events of Alkali Lake never happen because Stryker never needs to make them happen with most of humanity already hating mutants, and Jean, who does have power manifesting, never becomes Dark Phoenix (at least not right away), because she never has to die at Alkali Lake. So on a positive note, she, Xavier and Cyclops never died in this altered timeline, but they did have to deal with the not so distant future of Sentinels and heavier mutant persecution. They may well have died there, or they might just have been imprisoned, and could then show up at the end of the film after being liberated, ready for new ongoing adventures in a more familiar, more dangerous and mistrusting X-Men world, complete with sentinels and a world that truly hates and fears and persecutes mutants. If they wanted to make a non FIRST CLASS X-movie, or one more with the original cast, it would set up The Mutant Massacre/Sinister and Apocalypse quite nicely, wouldn't it?

As for Xavier being able to walk in X3...either a wizard did it, or at some point, Magneto uses time travel somehow to alter the event he feels responsible for, crippling Charles.

Anyway, it touches on all the key X-Men films, and X-MEN: FIRST CLASS and the original X-Men franchise would be revealed to be films that ultimately take place in two different timelines, with DAYS OF FUTURE PAST setting up a "possible third timeline/future" (possibly even the ideal end to the franchise in many X-Men fans' minds).

So you'd have, when the dust settled:

1st timeline X-MEN, X2, X3, WOLVERINE, THE WOLVERINE

2nd timeline FIRST CLASS, DAYS OF FUTURE PAST, whatever the third film is

3rd timeline Anything moving past the events of the future in DAYS OF FUTURE PAST.

 

I think it would be too complicated to explain Wolverine going back to the 1940s. However it would make sense that his First Class appearance was the time travelling Wolverine. I'd rather it not be, I think it takes the edge off that particular appearance.

 

Wolverine wouldn't need to "go back" to the 1940's. Wolverine wouldn't neccessarily need to go back at all. He was already there.

 

Who says they're going to use future Wolverine?

 

I'd also rather see Logan coming straight off of The Wolverine in some capacity -- the guy who links this entire odyssey together. It makes sense.

 

Interesting ideas here. Reading them makes my brain matter ooze from my ears, but...interesting nonetheless.

 

When it comes to time travel. Just go with the flow

 

here's what i think they should do.

something happens in the past...after the events of "the wolverine"

and basically we have a sentinel future..like in the animated series and we get time shock waves.

go see x-men the animated series "one man's worth"






and we have a reunion of the entire cast from the trilogy. even kelsey grammer, alan cumming, halle berry, daniel cudmore, angel...everybody gets cameos.





even stryker (brian cox) is alive because this is an alternate future.





and in this sentinel future it's something similar to terminator salvation.



and wolverine is one of the leaders in the resistance. but is killed on a mission.

and xavier, magneto and the crew realize now that they need to send back a time traveler "ellen page" to the past using cerebro.

and basically she ends up in the past with the FC group.

and essentially she has to convince the 1972 bone claws wolverine to help out. this is the same wolverine who said "go **** yourself" from first class because they don't have the man power to fight the enemy.

and it's a good way to establish continuity with "the wolveine" since we know there will be a highlander-ish like flashback with bone claws.

he initially doesn't want to get involved. but he decides to join the team.
and wears a cool jump suit and looks like a temporary team member.

and this is when we get introduced to a young william stryker and jason stryker when he is first brought to the school.

so they learn that President Nixon is killed by a mutant which starts the sentinel to being created by trask.

so in the final battle wolverine gets his bone claws crushed damaged and stryker recuits wolverine near the end of the film.

and ellen page returns to the future. i hope its something like that.

this way. "x men orgins" can be forgotten about once in for all.

 

Has anyone considered that the final battle will bring both timelines together, kill off the least popular or most unlikely to resign in future movies, and merge what's left into a team of the characters that are most popular, or played by actors easiest to bring back in the future? I can see it happening.

 

Stryker better not be in this film. He gets way too much credit for tis series.

 

yeah, the less Wolverine origin/Striker on future "Team" sequels the better

 

I don't know, I kind of preferred Liev Schreiber over Tyler Mane.

 

At this point, Stryker, Weapon X and origins of Wolverine should be done now. They already gave focus to it for 2 films. FOX is already stepping into another territory with Days of Future Past and Wolverine with the Japan storyline.