Rise of the Silver Surfer THING/Michael Chiklis DISCUSSION

[Willie Lumpkin]

Watching Superman Returns and Hulk as well as the Spidey movies, The thing really needs to up his game in terms of strength feats. Now i know he is not as strong as Hulk or Supes, but surely he should able to embarrass Spidey in terms of strength. So far it is the opposite.

He did perform some feats that seem to be more than Spidey has done (smashing through a couple thick walls, crumpling up Johnny's Porsche, throwing the car at Doom, etc.), but I'm not sure that he projects the sort of power on screen that he should. I'm not sure if that's a matter of making him bigger (Superman works as a normal sized man) or just directing in a more creative way that gives the viewer a sense of his power, but I think that needs to be improved in the next film.

 

[Kelly]

He did perform some feats that seem to be more than Spidey has done (smashing through a couple thick walls, crumpling up Johnny's Porsche, throwing the car at Doom, etc.), but I'm not sure that he projects the sort of power on screen that he should. I'm not sure if that's a matter of making him bigger (Superman works as a normal sized man) or just directing in a more creative way that gives the viewer a sense of his power, but I think that needs to be improved in the next film.

Agreed....

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

He did perform some feats that seem to be more than Spidey has done (smashing through a couple thick walls, crumpling up Johnny's Porsche, throwing the car at Doom, etc.), but I'm not sure that he projects the sort of power on screen that he should. I'm not sure if that's a matter of making him bigger (Superman works as a normal sized man) or just directing in a more creative way that gives the viewer a sense of his power, but I think that needs to be improved in the next film.

Definately, Spidey has him beat a the moment IMO with holding the tram and stopping the train, so they need to raise the game in FF2

 

[Norm3]

The is not as strong as the Hulk, but he's alway been #2 as far as hero's in the Marvel universe.

 

[Kelly]

The is not as strong as the Hulk, but he's alway been #2 as far as hero's in the Marvel universe.

Strength is not always what wins.....in the end.

 

[Franklin Richards]

It's heart.

 

[WTFwuzThT]

Anything but that silly looking atrocity they had in the frist movie. That was just awful as was the movie.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Beat it newb. I've got bigger fish to fry than you.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Despite my quarrels with it, they have to keep the basic look of him now for continuities sake. Just make him stronger.

 

[Malus]

Despite my quarrels with it, they have to keep the basic look of him now for continuities sake. Just make him stronger.

No, for continuity's sake, he should evolve further, as he did in the comics.
They're not "stuck" with anything.

 

[WTFwuzThT]

Beat it newb. I've got bigger fish to fry than you.

HAHAHA, rrriiiggghhhtttt.

 

[knoxf4i]

THIS is what I was hoping for !!!!

 

[WTFwuzThT]

Now that would be an awesome look for the movie. It's too bad Fox and Story lack whatever it would take to actually realize this.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

"Now that would be an awesome look for the movie. It's too bad Fox and Story lack brains, talent and proper respect for the source material."

I fixed your post.

 

[Darthphere]

"Now that would be an awesome look for the movie. It's too bad Fox and Story lack brains, talent and proper respect for the source material."

I fixed your post.

Damn yo, Wilhelm caught feelings.

 

[Malus]

PERFECTION

Very close.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

They need to up the ante on the Things strength though as well as improve his look, he is sorely lagging behind even Hellboy at the moment.

 

[Clobberin' Time]

Bingo!

 

[Malus]

They need to up the ante on the Things strength though as well as improve his look, he is sorely lagging behind even Hellboy at the moment.

Agreed. He kicked Ben's butt way too easily in the last movie.
Now that Ben's had some time to adjust to the new body, he should be more adept at utilizing his strength, which is waaaay greater than what FF1 seemed to indicate at points.
That one whack with the lampost should not have put him in such a prostrate position.
I know it was done for dramatic effect, so each member of the FF could stop Doom from skewering him with the sheared off lamp post, but it should have been the Torch or Reed lying there helpless, NOT the Thing.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Agreed. He kicked Ben's butt way too easily in the last movie.
Now that Ben's had some time to adjust to the new body, he should be more adept at utilizing his strength, which is waaaay greater than what FF1 seemed to indicate at points.
That one whack with the lampost should not have put him in such a prostrate position.
I know it was done for dramatic effect, so each member of the FF could stop Doom from skewering him with the sheared off lamp post, but it should have been the Torch or Reed lying there helpless, NOT the Thing.

Agreed, hopefully they make the Thing stronger in the sequel, just as he got stronger at the beginning of the comics.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Bingo!

I think this would be more bingo with those sadly human proportions..

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

I think this would be more bingo with those sadly human proportions..

That looks pretty good to me. Hopefully, based on TS's comments, we'll get something at least that good.

 

[Agent 194]

Ok, third post of the same post. . .I'm not sure if I'm in the right crowd sometimes.

I believe that I trust Story and his assertion that the larger Thing brow is not as cinematically practical as we would like for it to be (I know they say it's going to be larger) still, - much like the fact that I would have loved to have seen footage of Mel Blanc in the day, doing Bugs, Foghorn, Daffy,...etc., I would love to at least see this larger brow that they say won't work. I think we at least deserve to see the proof for ourselves.

As for Mel Blanc (and I know this is completely off subject) but despite all the cool extras that have come out on the Looney Tunes collections, - am I the only one who thinks it was extrememely poor foresight, on someones part, to not have taped this man doing his thing back then?!

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Ok, third post of the same post. . .I'm not sure if I'm in the right crowd sometimes.

I believe that I trust Story and his assertion that the larger Thing brow is not as cinematically practical as we would like for it to be (I know they say it's going to be larger) still, - much like the fact that I would have loved to have seen footage of Mel Blanc in the day, doing Bugs, Foghorn, Daffy,...etc., I would love to at least see this larger brow that they say won't work. I think we at least deserve to see the proof for ourselves.

As for Mel Blanc (and I know this is completely off subject) but despite all the cool extras that have come out on the Looney Tunes collections, - am I the only one who thinks it was extrememely poor foresight, on someones part, to not have taped this man doing his thing back then?!

That's interesting. I didn't realize there wasn't any footage of Mel Blanc. I can see why they wouldn't, at the time, want to distribute such footage, because it might have distracted from the characters, but it seems like it would be very interesting to see it from an historical perspective (they probably never imagined their cartoons would have such staying power).

As for the Thing, I was hoping we'd see them looking at some maquettes on the DVD so we could see for ourselves. I trust that Tim Story believes that a larger brow won't look right, but I don't know that I agree with him on that point. I might believe that a perfect recreation of Kirby's blocky brow might not look right in the flesh, but the photoshop WS posted above looks MUCH better than what we saw in the first film, and I don't see how anyone could see anything wrong with it.

Hopefully the new version will be that good or better. Does anyone know how to post that over on Tim's myspace? I'd like to see if he has any comments. Based on what he has said, I'm guessing that might be close to what we get, and that would be a BIG improvement.