Rise of the Silver Surfer THING/Michael Chiklis DISCUSSION

[Willie Lumpkin]

Remember when this was published in USA Today, and we got our first glimpse of the Thing?

Did that look like the Thing to any of you? It was interesting, and sort of cool int it's own way but it just wasn't the Thing.

Now if we had seen this, instead, most of us would have said: "Now that's the Thing."

And I think the audience could have accepted it just as easily as they accepted the version we got.

 

[freemind1969]

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Yeah, baby!

Th^t is Thing.

btw, I remember very well when I bought the USA Today (first time ever) and the first thing I thought was "Kellog's Corn Pops Man ?........ X 1,000"

 

[freemind1969]

I thought the movie Thing resembled issue #30's partial transformation back into Ben Grimm from Diablo's potions.

 

[Orko Is King]

I think this would be more bingo with those sadly human proportions..

Make it less shiny and we've got a winner.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I thought the movie Thing resembled issue #30's partial transformation back into Ben Grimm from Diablo's potions.

Ha, totally.

Key words:"Human proportions"

Please note, Tim, that th^t looks nothing like "The Thing" as he has come to be known.

I honestly would've even preferred something like:

, Just so he looked more like the inhuman-looking monster that he's supposed to resemble.

 

[Malus]

Ha, totally.

Key words:"Human proportions"

Please note, Tim, that th^t looks nothing like "The Thing" as he has come to be known.

I honestly would've even preferred something like:

, Just so he looked more like the inhuman-looking monster that he's supposed to resemble.

For me it was the equivalent of first seeing the Hulk on tv back in the 70's being played by Lou Ferrigno.
There's a lot to be said for the performances (particularly Michael Chiklis) but that wasn't the Hulk we knew on CBS back in '78, and that wasn't the Thing last summer in FF1.
Not by a long shot.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

For me it was the equivalent of first seeing the Hulk on tv back in the 70's being played by Lou Ferrigno.
There's a lot to be said for the performances (particularly Michael Chiklis) but that wasn't the Hulk we knew on CBS back in '78, and that wasn't the Thing last summer in FF1.
Not by a long shot.

Good point! I also think this touches on why some of us older guys may have a little different perspective than some of the younger guys.

We grew up with VERY weak depictions of our heros. We older guys remember when Spider-Man was wearing white wrist-bands and fighting street thugs.

I want my favortie comic (FF) to be portrayed faithfully, but I recognize that I'm lucky to get anything even this close. I'm not going to boycott the film or go pout in a corner just because it's not nearly as good as it could be. I'm going to enjoy it for what it is and hope the sequels get better.

 

[Malus]

Good point! I also think this touches on why some of us older guys may have a little different perspective than some of the younger guys.

We grew up with VERY weak depictions of our heros. We older guys remember when Spider-Man was wearing white wrist-bands and fighting street thugs.

I want my favortie comic (FF) to be portrayed faithfully, but I recognize that I'm lucky to get anything even this close. I'm not going to boycott the film or go pout in a corner just because it's not nearly as good as it could be. I'm going to enjoy it for what it is and hope the sequels get better.

Hey, watch it with the intelligence and rational attitude there, Willie. You're gonna get us thrown out of this joint.

 

[Obi-Ron]

We older guys remember when Spider-Man was wearing white wrist-bands and fighting street thugs.

And we loved it, by cracky!

 

[Agent 194]

This has nothing to do with anything on this forum or site but Maynard Ferguson (jazz trumpeter-hero of mine) is dead. He was 78. I'm sad.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

This has nothing to do with anything on this forum or site but Maynard Ferguson (jazz trumpeter-hero of mine) is dead. He was 78. I'm sad.

My father was a trumpet player and fan of his. He took me to see him when I was too young, and all I remember was that I thought it was loud and boring and I wanted to go home. I wish I'd have had the chance to try it when I was older.

RIP

 

[Malus]

This has nothing to do with anything on this forum or site but Maynard Ferguson (jazz trumpeter-hero of mine) is dead. He was 78. I'm sad.

If I remember correctly, he put out a 45 single of the theme from Rocky when I was about 11, and I bought it thinking I was getting the version from the film. I liked it anyway, and the B side was great. That led to eventually picking up some of his CDs when I was old enough to really appreciate him.
Sad news. Nobody else sounded like him.

 

[batman7289]

i dont know y we have these threads in the SPOILER forum

 

[Mr. Socko]

woohoo, they're going to give him a real brow.

 

[Agent 194]

If I remember correctly, he put out a 45 single of the theme from Rocky when I was about 11, and I bought it thinking I was getting the version from the film. I liked it anyway, and the B side was great. That led to eventually picking up some of his CDs when I was old enough to really appreciate him.
Sad news. Nobody else sounded like him.

Yeah, that Rocky single was going to be used for Rocky 2. Stallone loved it but the execs changed their minds at the last minute. Maynard would have done a good FF soundtrack.

 

[Orko Is King]

I want some goddamn set pics!

 

[Fantastic-Boy]

The Thing of the post #152 is very cool!!!

 

[Vartha]

I can go with that Thing, but, How's Mike's expressions work on this mask, better or worse?
I can see where the bigger mouth may help with getting more air.

 

[Savage]

Couldn't they have just CG'd the eyebrows? Exagerate his expressions. Simple as that. When he raises an eyebrow, make it a big eyebrow. Not that hard. It's practically...photoshopping each frame. I hope that's what is done in the second.

 

[wobbly]

Couldn't they have just CG'd the eyebrows? Exagerate his expressions. Simple as that. When he raises an eyebrow, make it a big eyebrow. Not that hard. It's practically...photoshopping each frame. I hope that's what is done in the second.

POTC Dead mans chest showed what can be done with CGI effects applied over the top of an unmade-up actors face (Davy Jones face and costume was all CGI over the actors performance) so yeah, they could easilly CGI over the top of what they film to improve the effect...however...to do this it would require physical tracking markers on the actors face (and body if required) for the animators to use as guides (assuming they were intending on this approach from the get go and don't decide to go for it in post production as an afterthought).

From what we've seen though it is just gonna be Chiklis in a rubber suit again, no CGI enhancements yet again, and a rather average result once again.

 

[maxwell's demon]

so i can't tell. are his eyebrows bigger or not?

 

[Savage]

POTC Dead mans chest showed what can be done with CGI effects applied over the top of an unmade-up actors face (Davy Jones face and costume was all CGI over the actors performance) so yeah, they could easilly CGI over the top of what they film to improve the effect...however...to do this it would require physical tracking markers on the actors face (and body if required) for the animators to use as guides (assuming they were intending on this approach from the get go and don't decide to go for it in post production as an afterthought).

From what we've seen though it is just gonna be Chiklis in a rubber suit again, no CGI enhancements yet again, and a rather average result once again.

They CGI'd his back in the last one when he was pulling the firetruck. I'm sure they can just do the same to his eyebrows. No markers needed. The problem is Chiklis can't emote too well with it big right? Well give him the average sized ones like before, just enhance it and make it bigger (like they did the back last time). Simple touch-up really...The suit could have used a lot of CG touch-ups by the way. I don't know why they stopped at just one scene.

 

[Edd Extraordinaire]

God this movie is going to blow.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

They CGI'd his back in the last one when he was pulling the firetruck. I'm sure they can just do the same to his eyebrows. No markers needed. The problem is Chiklis can't emote too well with it big right? Well give him the average sized ones like before, just enhance it and make it bigger (like they did the back last time). Simple touch-up really...The suit could have used a lot of CG touch-ups by the way. I don't know why they stopped at just one scene.

Exactly, the first movies suite needed a lot of CGI touch ups that it never got, and it looks like this movie is going the same way. They probably didnt have time due to Fox rushing everything again the ****ing nobheads.