The Amazing Spider-Man Things You Want To See In The Amazing Spider-Man 2

[spideyboy_1111]

Oh, I could rant about this all day (trust me), but I'll keep it as brief as possible:

I know that lots of people adore the chemistry between Gwen and Peter in this movie, but I really did not dig it at all. It was painfully awkward to me- not in a "awww, teen romance" kind of thing, either. It was more along the lines of "Ok, they are channeling Kristen Stewart in this scene with the stuttering and twitching, and I'm not buying it."

Also, Peter did some things that raised my eyebrow. Taking pics of Gwen, having pictures of her on his desktop, visiting her home for the first time through her WINDOW? I also found Peter to be a jerk, in the same vain as Edward Cullen. I know people may disagree tremendously, but that's what I saw in the movie. I found myself asking myself throughout most of the movie, "What in the world does Gwen see in this tool?"



First off, SHE just lost all opinion credit for you.

Second, read above, and there's my opinion. I'll be anxiously waiting to see if I've gained credit back from only you. If I don't, it will ruin my day. Ruin it, I say!

I disagree completely. Have you seen the film that got Webb this gig? 500 days of summer? It was very reminiscent of that... kstew is awkward in an emotionless sense. Gwen and peter were just awkward and playful. Big difference

 

[Jexx]

Did you just pull a

"How dare you-"
"No! How dare YOU?"

moment?

 

[Leenie]

I disagree completely. Have you seen the film that got Webb this gig? 500 days of summer? It was very reminiscent of that... kstew is awkward in an emotionless sense. Gwen and peter were just awkward and playful. Big difference

I absolutely adore (500) Days of Summer, and this movie didn't remind me of that at all, sadly.

 

[Leenie]

Did you just pull a

"How dare you-"
"No! How dare YOU?"

moment?

Hahahaha. It was more along the lines of "See, this is how you look when you say stuff like that."

Excuse me, need to break a glass door now.

 

[Jexx]

I don't think Peter broke the glass on purpose..

 

[Majik1387]

In a nutshell, I get that teens are self-centered. Totally get that. Peter was that ten fold though, and he consistently did some crappy things throughout the movie and didn't really act like he was responsible for them.

How was he consistently doing crappy things? And what the hell is he supposed to be, a saint? He acted like your everyday teenage outcast who happened to be book-smart, and did challenge Flash pre-powers for another student not himself.

For instance, the scene with the chocolate milk? He was a *****enozzle throughout that entire scene, which makes me feel he was even more responsible for Uncle Ben's death, yet ... I never once believed that he took the blame for it or felt guilt about it. It was all about seeking revenge against the bad guy.

First, how is questioning the stupid logic being a *****enozzle? Especially considering he gave up rather quick.

Peter was also eager to pick arguments consistently throughout the movie. Dinner at the Stacys? I was hoping that the Captain Stacy was going to slap the snot out of him, personally.

You mean where he flat out was telling Stacy that he was wrong somewhat about Spidey in an innocent manner(as much as he could be without saying he's Spidey). Stacy was stubborn and already had his mind set about Spidey, and not wanting to hear any different doesn't really make Peter the one looking for an argument.

And by the end of the movie, I felt that Peter learned nothing with that damn line: "Broken promises are the most fun." What a schmuck!

Yes, he's the schmuck for keeping the promise to a now dead man. I'm all for dying wishes, but people still gotta live their lives, and asking him to totally ignore Gwen was selfish of Stacy, granted it was his hope to protect her after he's passed, but even if Peter kept the promise, that's not accounting for whatever point in time that Gwen may take the initiative to take part in Peter's life.

And, Finally: Honestly, how can I take YOU seriously for liking this new movie?

Because I'm not and never was blinded by Raimi's movies.

(^See what I did, there? )

Fail?

 

[Leenie]

I don't think Peter broke the glass on purpose..

Um ... Yeah. I know that. lol. I was joking.

I just thought my moment needed to end with a glass door breaking to make it ~*official*~

 

[spideyboy_1111]

In a nutshell, I get that teens are self-centered. Totally get that. Peter was that ten fold though, and he consistently did some crappy things throughout the movie and didn't really act like he was responsible for them.

For instance, the scene with the chocolate milk? He was a *****enozzle throughout that entire scene, which makes me feel he was even more responsible for Uncle Ben's death, yet ... I never once believed that he took the blame for it or felt guilt about it. It was all about seeking revenge against the bad guy.

Peter was also eager to pick arguments consistently throughout the movie. Dinner at the Stacys? I was hoping that the Captain Stacy was going to slap the snot out of him, personally.

And by the end of the movie, I felt that Peter learned nothing with that damn line: "Broken promises are the most fun." What a schmuck!

And, Finally: Honestly, how can I take YOU seriously for liking this new movie?

(^See what I did, there? )

Wow... Have you ever been in a relationship? Just curious... Because uh... Friends, girlfriends, boyfriends.... They tend to lightly tease each other. And that's what he was doing. If you think that's him being an ass? Then WOW I feel sorry, your personality must be
pretty dry.

As for peter being argumentive I found it pretty obvious it was a defense mechanism as to dealing with his abandonment issues. The kids had a rough life and is trying to process it. The way he acted is pretty accurate to a teen going through issues. It's why he loves being spidey, it's a form of escapism to be someone else for a little while.

 

[Jexx]

I would like to point out, I don't think that Peter was being a dick to Aunt May by not comforting her about Uncle Ben.

When my mother died, I never confronted my father about it on a level besides hugging each other. Words didn't need to be said.

 

[Leenie]

Because I'm not and never was blinded by Raimi's movies.

Fail?

And you're blinded by new and shiny things, just for the sake of them being new?

Dude. Chill. I have an opinion, and your snobby banter isn't convincing me to change it. I wanted to get on board with this movie, but I couldn't. Simple as that. And there's nothing I can say that will change your opinion (which is fine, don't get me wrong), but when people ask me for MY opinion, I'll most certainly give it.

Please check out the "things I liked" thread if you have the time and are curious enough. I HAVE given this movie some merits (and I listed some scenes that I actually said I LOVED), but there are things about this movie that bother me greatly and that ultimately prevent me from being a fan.

 

[Leenie]

Wow... Have you ever been in a relationship? Just curious... Because uh... Friends, girlfriends, boyfriends.... They tend to lightly tease each other. And that's what he was doing. If you think that's him being an ass? Then WOW I feel sorry, your personality must be
pretty dry.

So I hate this movie because my PERSONALITY sucks? Stay classy, Sassy.

I get the whole teasing thing, but I didn't buy it in this movie. The script and the acting didn't sell it for me. It just didn't click with me. In (500) Days of Summer, though, I got the teasing and the chemistry ... It felt seamless and painfully believable to me. This movie, though? Not so much.

Maybe my expectations were too high for this in terms of the chemistry department, I don't know. But the interactions between the two characters felt VERY "off" to me.

 

[Jexx]

Hey, come on, let's not resort to name-calling here. We all have different opinions, no need to get uptight because someone has a different one.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

So I hate this movie because my PERSONALITY sucks? Stay classy, Sassy.

That's not my point. You said he was being a jerk over teasing Gwen about a friggin chocolate house.... You seriously going to call him an ass for that?...... Nothing he said was abnormal at all... It's what people do. You seem a bit touchy and extremely sensitive about any kind of playful banter

 

[Jexx]

I love the Chocolate house scene.

"No! That would be impractical!"
*shuts door* *opens door*
"And fattening!"

 

[Majik1387]

And you're blinded by new and shiny things, just for the sake of them being new?

Not at all.

Dude. Chill.

I'm entirely calm thanks.

I have an opinion, and your snobby banter isn't convincing me to change it. I wanted to get on board with this movie, but I couldn't. Simple as that. And there's nothing I can say that will change your opinion (which is fine, don't get me wrong), but when people ask me for MY opinion, I'll most certainly give it.

Wasn't trying to make you change your opinion at all, you just never stated them clear enough, especially with the Twilight comparison, and even your reason for the Twilight comparison is, to be blunt, simplistic. A show of interest in between two teens with some awkwardness has been done in every single teen movie/show/etc before and after Twilight, especially when Stone/Garfield acted nothing like Stewart/Pattinson. Like I said in my earlier post, I understand and disagree with the comparison to TDK and Raimi's films, but the Twilight comparison is just not a good complaint about the movie. Even the promotion for this movie was not Twilight-eque.

Please check out the "things I liked" thread if you have the time and are curious enough. I HAVE given this movie some merits (and I listed some scenes that I actually said I LOVED), but there are things about this movie that bother me greatly and that ultimately prevent me from being a fan.

And that's fair, but don't be getting upset if someone doesn't understand one of your complaints because it isn't well thought out.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I love the Chocolate house scene.

"No! That would be impractical!"
*shuts door* *opens door*
"And fattening!"

I loved it as well!

 

[Supa]

I love the Chocolate house scene.

"No! That would be impractical!"
*shuts door* *opens door*
"And fattening!"

Andrew's huge smile after it just made it better.
"...A chocolate house?"

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Not at all.

I'm entirely calm thanks.

Wasn't trying to make you change your opinion at all, you just never stated them clear enough, especially with the Twilight comparison, and even your reason for the Twilight comparison is, to be blunt, simplistic. A show of interest in between two teens with some awkwardness has been done in every single teen movie/show/etc before and after Twilight, especially when Stone/Garfield acted nothing like Stewart/Pattinson. Like I said in my earlier post, I understand and disagree with the comparison to TDK and Raimi's films, but the Twilight comparison is just not a good complaint about the movie. Even the promotion for this movie was not Twilight-eque.

And that's fair, but don't be getting upset if someone doesn't understand one of your complaints because it isn't well thought out.

Were on the same page with this... I'm fine with valid points but the twilight comparisons and "Peters an ass" comments are pretty faulty and weak

 

[Leenie]

And that's fair, but don't be getting upset if someone doesn't understand one of your complaints because it isn't well thought out.

That's not what I'm upset about at all. Asking questions is fine. It's the pot shots that I'm not very fond of.

There's no need to already be on the attack while asking a question. That's all. People have clearly set the tone in the process of asking me questions.

 

[Jexx]

I'm just saying, I don't understand how Peter could be misconstrued as a dick in the film, but I guess that's me.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

I'm just saying, I don't understand how Peter could be misconstrued as a dick in the film, but I guess that's me.

It's not just you

 

[Leenie]

Oh, the chocolate house thing? That's a scene I wasn't even thinking about when talking about the chemistry (In fact, I never even mentioned it like spideyboy_1111 implies) ... Probably because I saw it as more of a scene between Gwen and her father ...

That specific line, yes, that was obviously playful banter. That line is definitely not what makes Peter a jerk, and that's not one of the "awkward" scenes I'm talking about.

When I'm talking about "not buying" the chemistry, I'm talking about scenes like when Peter asks Gwen out. To me, it's a very "Twilight-esque" scene with the awkwardness. It may have worked for plenty of people, but it didn't work for me. At all. :|

Another scene that reminded me of Twilight was when Peter "breaks up" with Gwen. Again, so awkward that it's not believable, and I cringed at Gwen's lines because she came across as being more upset about her boyfriend than about her father dying. I kept thinking, "Poor Captain Stacy. It's like Bella's dad all over again."

In terms of Peter being a jerk, I guess I think he's a jerk because I found the whole "abandonment/parent plotline" to be unnecessary for a Spider-Man origin story. When it's the first movie, and they're trying to establish the character while bringing this stuff up, I don't think it works. He comes off as completely moody, isolated, confrontational, selfish, and irresponsible ... And it's all because of the parents? Well, I don't buy that it's due to the parents because I never really got to see glimpses of Peter not being all of those negative things in the movie. I just got the vibe that "this is what Peter is, plain and simple. Go with it." He came across as very one-note in that sense (in my opinion). Clearly he knows he wasn't abandoned because he googled them in the movie and it said that they died in the plane crash, am I right? Less of a reason to believe that he's this "dark" of a character because of the parents, in my opinion.

And I think he comes across as a jerk as Spider-Man for the whole vengeance plotline. I know he stops in the movie, but I personally felt like there wasn't much of a character shift because of the screenplay. I felt like he stopped looking for the guy simply because the screenplay just dropped it rather than he chose to stop it. The transition from vigilante to hero didn't feel seamless or believable to me in that sense. Maybe that's because I felt Uncle Ben's words didn't have as much of an impact as I would have liked? I think it would have been better for Peter to listen to the full voicemail right before he became the hero. I would have felt the development in that case.

And, again, I still don't like that Peter went back on Captain Stacy's final request, especially in the form of a joke. It's like he reverted back to before he "accepted" his hero title ... As if he didn't learn anything.

 

[Resistance61513]

I really wanted Green Goblin to be the next villain. Just because I want to see that iconic story arc of Gwen Stacy dying. Really, if done right, it's going to be quite a sight to see on screen. I don't think there will be a dry eye in the theater. With how well these actors/actresses are able to evoke emotion, yeah...quite the spectacle.

Then again, I kind of want them to hold off on it. Norman Osborn is an intricate character. I don't think you can justify his character in 120 minutes. That's where I think the Raimi film kind of fell flat. *NOT A BASH TO THE RAIMI FILMS BECAUSE I LOVE THEM*

I think Webb should take his time with Goblin and just have Norman through out the second film. Have him pull strings. Have him be the puppet master we know and love. Save Goblin for the third film. That's probably the best route to go. Especially since the general audience is demanding they see something new.

A lot of folks have been throwing around the idea of Electro being the main bad guy. At first, I was against the idea. Then a poster said "Imagine a fight in Time Square". My mind has been racing with ideas all day on how they could implement Electro into the film verse, as well as, iconic scenes!

Electro is an entity Spider-Man has yet to face. In this installment as well as the Raimi trilogy. He is definitely interesting and could be quite the visual feast for audiences. I can imagine Electro throwing lightning bolts at Spider-Man and watching him gracefully move through the air avoiding all the blasts.

Another interesting element Electro brings to the table is that Spider-Man has to use his genius in order to defeat him. That's something no Spider-Man movie has shown thus far! I'd love to see Spidey make web gloves while punching Electro. I'd love for him to come up with an insulation suit that will help him against Electro's blast. I feel the audience will definitely marvel at Peter's genius.

There is just so much potential with that character! They could also make him an enforcer of OsCorp. And, while a bit cartoony, think of modern day. What do we rely on most? Technology. Technology is pretty much running our lives. When things don't work right we panic. Remember, Americans, the black out back in 2003. That was pandemonium! Electro could easily play on that. Imagine him blacking out all of New York City!

You could also do, again like another poster said, the iconic scene where Spider-Man pleads for his life only to be electrocuted by Electro! I don't know about you guys but I'm really favoring Electro for the next installment.

 

[Thundercrack85]

My guess would be that Norman will show up in the second movie (since he was in the stinger). But he may not yet go full Green Goblin. Just plotting, setting up new villains.

I would like to see Otto Octavius. Not necessarily as Dr. Octopus, but just the character.

 

[Brother Jack]

I'm just saying, I don't understand how Peter could be misconstrued as a dick in the film, but I guess that's me.

He has a lot of angst and is presented as a bit of an outsider. I wouldn't call it dickery but there is more anger and teenaged pathos there.