Transformers This is how transformers should have been approached

[big D Evil]

So if there are masses of people who feel this movie captures the essence of what they feel transformers is (and believe it or not that actually is an individual conclusion) then prime's flames and BB's camaro status can be declared non-issues as well.

I'm all for it.

I guess you didnt read the script yet then...
If the only thing that was wrong with this movie was a few cosmetic changes then I would be happy as a clam!!!!
It's the collective ******edness that is worrying me.

Bay+bad script+bad designs= Godzilla 98

 

[nosebleed.]

In your opinion, no, not an improvement. In my opinion, yes, it's an improvement. I got to thinkig the other day about why the G1 designs wouldn't work in this movie. It because the toys were only designed to look like vehicles, not function as vehicles. Almost none had functional interiors, and none could have passed as vehicles if even casually inspected. In the cartoons, they had the interiors, but made them work because they were not bound by the laws of reality. I think this is the best way to approach bringing Transformers to life.

The movie designs so far are not bound by the laws of reality. They are cheating by morphing parts out of nowhere like in T3. Can you honestly tell me that the sleek look of Optimus in robot mode can actually physically transform into a semi without cheating by morphing?

 

[Masut]

The movie designs so far are not bound by the laws of reality. They are cheating by morphing parts out of nowhere like in T3. Can you honestly tell me that the sleek look of Optimus in robot mode can actually physically transform into a semi without cheating by morphing?

Exactly what I think as well. The robot modes are too slim, and there is absolutely no indication to where all that 'vehicle' goes. It's one of my main concerns.

 

[CFlash]

The movie designs so far are not bound by the laws of reality. They are cheating by morphing parts out of nowhere like in T3. Can you honestly tell me that the sleek look of Optimus in robot mode can actually physically transform into a semi without cheating by morphing?

Exactly what I think as well. The robot modes are too slim, and there is absolutely no indication to where all that 'vehicle' goes. It's one of my main concerns.

The test will be when the toys are released. If they cheat (for instance wheels gotta be detached and "fly" 10 feet to another part of the toy) then we know their claims for "realism" where B.S.

I would not at all be surprised if the box contained TWO toys... the robot and the vehicle. The Ultimate Cheat! ... similar to the multiple Superman toys released for Superman Returns (super-breath Superman, wall busting Superman, etc).

But, who knows. It'll be interesting to say the least. I for one hope to be stunned by the transformation mechanics.

 

[Masut]

The test will be when the toys are released. If they cheat (for instance wheels gotta be detached and "fly" 10 feet to another part of the toy) then we know their claims for "realism" where B.S.

I would not at all be surprised if the box contained TWO toys... the robot and the vehicle. The Ultimate Cheat! ... similar to the multiple Superman toys released for Superman Returns (super-breath Superman, wall busting Superman, etc).

But, who knows. It'll be interesting to say the least. I for one hope to be stunned by the transformation mechanics.

lol. I can just picture some kid spending 3 hours trying to transform the movie figures from vehicle to robot based on the designs we've seen.

 

[DOG LIPS]

lol. I can just picture some kid spending 3 hours trying to transform the movie figures from vehicle to robot based on the designs we've seen.

Yeah, I really think the toys will be much less detailed if they do in fact transform. I don't think adults can even figure out Megatron, or Prime etc. let alone kids who buy the toys.

 

[CFlash]

Yeah, I really think the toys will be much less detailed if they do in fact transform. I don't think adults can even figure out Megatron, or Prime etc. let alone kids who buy the toys.

But you would think with Bay working so "closely" with Hasbro that they thought of this already. I dunno. I doubt Hasbro wants the movie versions to differ wildly. I suspect they got something up their sleeve.

 

[nosebleed.]

Well, the proof is in the Blackout toy model. It is MUCH less complicated and looks more like a Transformer than his movie counterpart.

What little we've seen of the movie version of "Starscream" is also much more complicated than the prototype that was initially released...and much more ugly.

The differences in the toys compared to the movie counterparts already shows that they are, for the lack of a better word, cheating. So the argument that the blocky designs aren't "realistic" is moot since the changes in the designs weren't really meant for verisimilitude.

 

[DOG LIPS]

So in other words, the Transformer movie toys will look more like Transformers than the movie Transformers themselves since they are too complicated and should be like the movie Transformers toys anyway. Got it.

 

[Masut]

I like more blocky-esque Transformers. I don't like the ones that transform and have the big shell of the vehicle sitting on their back, or as 'arm shields' etc. I think that's a bit cheating.

 

[CFlash]

I like more blocky-esque Transformers. I don't like the ones that transform and have the big shell of the vehicle sitting on their back, or as 'arm shields' etc. I think that's a bit cheating.

Yeah. It kinda reminds of an insectoid... ladybug... sort of deal. Kinda like the creatures in Mimic. It's doesn't seem so much like they *transform* but merely put on a "shell" that looks like something else. Meh.

 

[roach]

The movie designs so far are not bound by the laws of reality. They are cheating by morphing parts out of nowhere like in T3. Can you honestly tell me that the sleek look of Optimus in robot mode can actually physically transform into a semi without cheating by morphing?

the designs do look busy but I dont think they'd make a big deal about it being real and then cheat...hey could but i dont think they will. Looking at Prime I think I know how he Transforms but I need to see it before i judge it.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

The movie designs so far are not bound by the laws of reality. They are cheating by morphing parts out of nowhere like in T3. Can you honestly tell me that the sleek look of Optimus in robot mode can actually physically transform into a semi without cheating by morphing?

would you mind posting the link you have to the movie trasformers transforming?

 

[nosebleed.]

would you mind posting the link you have to the movie trasformers transforming?

Nah...you don't deserve to see it. Go suck an egg.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

Nah...you don't deserve to see it. Go suck an egg.

woud you mind giving me an egg to suck?

 

[Hotwire]

The movie designs so far are not bound by the laws of reality. They are cheating by morphing parts out of nowhere like in T3. Can you honestly tell me that the sleek look of Optimus in robot mode can actually physically transform into a semi without cheating by morphing?

If you think about it, most vehicles are empty space. Think of your own car. Lots and lots of empty space. That's why the robots seem to slim down. Since none of us have seen how these thing transform, we really can't say what parts go where and weather or not parts appear or disappear from nowhere.

 

[nosebleed.]

If you think about it, most vehicles are empty space. Think of your own car. Lots and lots of empty space. That's why the robots seem to slim down. Since none of us have seen how these thing transform, we really can't say what parts go where and weather or not parts appear or disappear from nowhere.

I'm just going by what toys we've seen compared to their movie counterparts. The toys look like they could transform and you can pretty much tell how they would transform. The movie counterparts look different and in that difference is the "cheating".

 

[Arcturus]

I don't mean to offend anyone, quite the opposite, we haven't actually seen any autobot or decepticon transform, so I don't know why people are being so negative about it. IMO, I think the transformation will consist of sliding panels and the reconfiguration of the body, such as legs and arms folding or retracting etc, prehaps an updated method of the original transformation. Just remember, that's just an idea.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

nosebleed, you're looking at a prototype toy.

 

[nosebleed.]

Yeah, its a prototype toy. But these designs are supposed to be prototypes also.

 

[roach]

You'er A Prototype

 

[God'z-illa]

that's how ALL adaptations should be done...

edit: off topic...the more i hear about Halo: the movie the more i get excited about it. Peter Jackson watching over production, Neil Blomkamp (his shorts are awesome) directing with his unique eye for special effects, and D.B. Weiss (who supposedly dished out a script for "Kashmir" that gave whoever read it a hard-on) as the writer. the only thing this movie needs is Samuel L. Jackson fighting some alien snakes aboard a jet or something...

yea but look at Superman Returns...wasn't singer a so called "fan" too??!!

 

[ragdus]

I'm just going by what toys we've seen compared to their movie counterparts. The toys look like they could transform and you can pretty much tell how they would transform. The movie counterparts look different and in that difference is the "cheating".

Why is the movie version the cheated version? I don't know if you realize this or not, but there's a lot more parts on a real semi, camaro, solstice, helicopter, etc. than there is going to be on the transforming toys. The toys are cheating, because they are eliminating HUGE chunks of the equation in going from one mode to the next.

 

[cryptic name]

yea but look at Superman Returns...wasn't singer a so called "fan" too??!!

a fan of richard donner's superman, and in that regaurd, he made one of the most faithful movies ever.

 

[nosebleed.]

Why is the movie version the cheated version? I don't know if you realize this or not, but there's a lot more parts on a real semi, camaro, solstice, helicopter, etc. than there is going to be on the transforming toys. The toys are cheating, because they are eliminating HUGE chunks of the equation in going from one mode to the next.

They can physically transform though. Do you really and truly think that the movie designs can realistically transform into their alt modes? What is all this talk in the script about morphing and nanometals then? I SERIOUSLY doubt that The slimmed down Optimus Prime we've seen from the movie designs can realistically transform into a long-nosed semi without cheating (parts going nowhere) in the transformation process.