Transformers This is how transformers should have been approached

[CFlash]

no, you have difficulty grasping that they mean the same thing. you are so desperate to complain about this movie that you make up your own definitions for words.

did you not bother to read the definitions that you yourself posted?

Did you?

wholly different (metamorphose) and markedly (transform) mean the same thing to you?

And does different physical form by supernatural means (metamorphose) means the same thing as change structure or change outward appearance of (transform) mean the same to you too?

 

[Tad Fatherton]

i think i'll trust three dictionaries before i'll trust you. i don't understand why you're still trying to dispute this. you think you are making some amazing point by saying morph is short for metamorphose. SO ****ING WHAT? the definition of metamorphose still means the same thing as transform. yes, i understand you want them to mean different things, but they don't.

 

[Boiiinng]

In terms of the movie...

Transform: using the same parts to create a different object: re-arranging.

Morph: one part becomes a completely different part.

 

[CFlash]

i think i'll trust three dictionaries before i'll trust you. i don't understand why you're still trying to dispute this. you think you are making some amazing point by saying morph is short for metamorphose. SO ****ING WHAT? the definition of metamorphose still means the same thing as transform. yes, i understand you want them to mean different things, but they don't.

Suit yourself. Everyone else seems to grasp the difference between the words... (which is why the definitions are worded differently BTW and not word-for-word copies of each other--- kinda belies your argument doesn it?)... so all is not that bad with the educational systems of English-speaking world. You're that one anomoly.

[edit] Thanks Boiiinng. I can't believe I let the troll sucker me into this stupid argument... as if the differences in the two words needed discussion. It didn't.

 

[bunk]

Me neither, but I've never seen the word "realistic" used so much for TransFormers.

Cartoons are one thing, but a live action movie can't cut all the same corners.

Two entirely different dead hors- I mean, animals.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

In terms of the movie...

Transform: using the same parts to create a different object: re-arranging.

Morph: one part becomes a completely different part.

prove it. and i'm serious, i want you to prove it.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

Suit yourself. Everyone else seems to grasp the difference between the words... (which is why the definitions are worded differently BTW and not word-for-word copies of each other--- kinda belies your argument doesn it?)... so all is not that bad with the educational systems of English-speaking world. You're that one anomoly.

[edit] Thanks Boiiinng. I can't believe I let the troll sucker me into this stupid argument... as if the differences in the two words needed discussion. It didn't.

read the definitions again, idiot.

Webster
metamorphose : a : to change into a different physical form especially by supernatural means b : to change strikingly the appearance or character of

transform : a : to change in composition or structure b : to change the outward form or appearance of c : to change in character or condition
(http://www.m-w.com/)

 

[*Dead*End*]

Nevermind . . .

 

[Tad Fatherton]

Did you?

wholly different (metamorphose) and markedly (transform) mean the same thing to you?

And does different physical form by supernatural means (metamorphose) means the same thing as change structure or change outward appearance of (transform) mean the same to you too?

haha, you are a joke, you changed the definitions.

 

[CFlash]

read the definitions again, idiot.

Webster
metamorphose : a : to change into a different physical form especially by supernatural means b : to change strikingly the appearance or character of

transform : a : to change in composition or structure b : to change the outward form or appearance of c : to change in character or condition
(http://www.m-w.com/)

LOL.
You're trying to show how two words have the same exact definition by showing their different definitions!!!....
and de-emphasizing the differences to boot!

Plus, you left out the American Heritage Dict definitions that accompanied my post which complement those two definitions above. to change WHOLLY DIFFERENT (metamorph) vs. to change MARKEDLY (transform).
That's not my definition. That's AHD's. And if you were a bit more... I dunno... smarter... you'd see it's also Websters.

Listent carefully, idiot, if they had the same definition they would have the same exact definition word for word. WORD-FOR-WORD. They don't, which suggests they have different semantical connotations. I understand those last two words might be "big" for you... so go back to Dictionary.com.

 

[*Dead*End*]

I'm not saying TF should be approached this way, but use Your imagination . . . reminds me of the first animatics of old-camaro Bumblebee transforming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geP9LpHM2Ow

Otherwise it's a lame comparison i agree

 

[CFlash]

prove it. and i'm serious, i want you to prove it.

It's not Boiiinng's job to prove it. You should have paid more attention in school, gone to college, or just read a little more.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

LOL.
You're trying to show how two words have the same exact definition by showing their different definitions!!!....
and de-emphasizing the differences to boot!

Plus, you left out the American Heritage Dict definitions that accompanied my post which complement those two definitions above. to change WHOLLY DIFFERENT (metamorph) vs. to change MARKEDLY (transform).
That's not my definition. That's AHD's. And if you were a bit more... I dunno... smarter... you'd see it's also Websters.

Listent carefully, idiot, if they had the same definition they would have the same exact definition word for word. WORD-FOR-WORD. They don't, which suggests they have different semantical connotations. I understand those last two words might be "big" for you... so go back to Dictionary.com.

its funny that you call me a troll...

you put so much emphasis on the words "wholly" and "markedly" which is rather stupid. wholly different means entirely different, markedly different means there is a noticable change. something can be markedly different while being wholly different at the same time. for ****'s sake, atleast look up the definitions of words before you try to base arguments off of them.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

It's not Boiiinng's job to prove it. You should have paid more attention in school, gone to college, or just read a little more.

so they teach you what the transformers script means when it says morph in english class?

 

[CFlash]

its funny that you call me a troll...

you put so much emphasis on the words "wholly" and "markedly" which is rather stupid. wholly different means entirely different, markedly different means there is a noticable change. something can be markedly different while being wholly different at the same time. for ****'s sake, atleast look up the definitions of words before you try to base arguments off of them.

In other words they have two definitions... that are not the same. LOL.

Or the writers of the dictionary are idiots for writing two different definitions. One using the word wholly different for Metamorphos and one using the word markedly for Transform. Again, go study the terms semantics and connotation... you'll be the wiser for it and be able to come back here and have an adult, educated discussion.

 

[xwolverine2]

oh god let it go!

 

[bunk]

Its ok, I'm a visual learner too.

Transforming:

Morphing:

 

[CFlash]

The morph pic isn't coming through. You're going to confuse poor Mad Tad and he might have a breakdown.

 

[bunk]

How bout this one.

Morphing:

This chicks hot, and a porn star at that. Not sure about the younger one though...

 

[Avangarde]

How bout this one.

Morphing:

This chicks hot, and a porn star at that. Not sure about the younger one though...

ROFLOLZ

 

[bluejake01]

Why am I arguing with the resident Troll? Sheesh.

Maybe you like talking to yourself?

 

[Tad Fatherton]

In other words they have two definitions... that are not the same. LOL.

Or the writers of the dictionary are idiots for writing two different definitions. One using the word wholly different for Metamorphos and one using the word markedly for Transform. Again, go study the terms semantics and connotation... you'll be the wiser for it and be able to come back here and have an adult, educated discussion.

i'm going to assume you're just pretending to be an idiot for the sake of arguing. you win as being the most annoying person here.

please look up the definitions of wholly and markedly, they are not words that contradict eachother.

 

[CFlash]

please look up the definitions of wholly and markedly, they are not words that contradict eachother.

No one said they did. But they also don't have the same definitions. Neither does transform and metamorphose... which is your contention. In other words they are NOT the same. Sheesh didn't you ever watch Sesame Street.

 

[ragdus]

A caterpillar become a butterfly via metamorphosis. Optimus prime become a semi by transforming. I hope the difference is pretty clear...

 

[bunk]

A caterpillar become a butterfly via metamorphosis. Optimus prime become a semi by transforming. I hope the difference is pretty clear...

Ahh, but Prime can go back to robot...can a butterfly go back to caterpillar?

Actually yes, with recent advances in plastic surgery I can't see why not. t: